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[–] 86 points 8 months ago (21 children)

Raccoons are cool. They seem to be in the early stages of self-domestication, which is probably how we got cats.

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  • [–] 30 points 8 months ago (14 children)

    There was a video being shared by someone who studies raccoons.

    The tl;dr was they are too smart and tend to hold grudges to become domestic.

    Still, they would be cool pets.

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  • [–] 22 points 8 months ago (7 children)

    This argument is always so silly. Domestication is the process of changing animals so they become more suitable to living with humans. The fact that wild animals aren't domesticated and therefore have traits that are problematic for that is tautological.

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  • [–] 0 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    2 points:

    1. Quolls, in Australia, are apparently about the same smarts as raccoons: you have to childproof EVERYTHING in a house they're living-in. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quoll ( the article I'd read pointed-out that they're endangered BECAUSE people can't have them as pets, whereas cats aren't endangered & are pets )

    2. grudge-holding may not be amendable, through breeding-program.

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    Pretty much any behavioral trait is changeable through natural or artificial selection. That includes intelligence. Actually it's pretty clear that part of domestication for dogs was making them less intelligent.

    Some species may take longer, and it's generally a slow process. I doubt these animals will be domesticated during our lifetimes but in the future who knows?

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  • [–] 14 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Actually it’s pretty clear that part of domestication for dogs was making them less intelligent.

    There was a scientific study run in the US comparing the behavior of wolves and dogs.

    Within 2 days, the scientists had to add a lock to the door of the wolf enclosure because the wolves had learned by watching them how to open the door and escaped. The dogs kept the same simple door latch throughout the entire experiment and never escaped.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    So our beloved man's best friend are just derived from the dumbest of the wolves?

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago

    Kind of...

    The domestication of dogs brought out a lot of neoteny traits -- juvenile traits retained into adulthood. Our beloved man's best friend are derived from wolves that never fully grew up and instead remained puppy-like for their entire lives. This makes them smaller, friendlier, more submissive, and easier to train (among other things) ... but it also does make them a bit stupider.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Hi I really like raccoons but have not seen this video. Do you have a link to this video?

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    I found the channel. It is all about raccoons.

    This is the video that I saw: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxgUOQRFjh8

    (And this one is also à propos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E181sIZhhfA)

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    I looked into this a while back and it seems that keeping one as a pet is a full day job.

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    [–] 38 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    Octopi. They're freakishy intelligent too.

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    [–] 48 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    I would love having a squirrel as pet. Unfortunately most squirrel types don't do well in captivity because they are too anxious. I nursed a baby squirrel once as a volunteer and it would just sleep in my shirt pocket or bra and be the cutest little thing until it was old enough to start learning to be a wild squirrel.

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago

    I think I'm going to side with you on this one. They start out calm enough, simple feeding and housing requirements, they can't hurt you as much as some of these larger animals, and most don't seem to get too bad an attitude even as adults unless they're cornered. Honestly my biggest problem would be them going to the bathroom everywhere and in places not readily accessible to clean. Eww.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    We tried to keep squirrels as pets for more than 2 years. Couldn't hold them ever. Eventually we just opened the door to the pen and it was a squirrel hotel for years. Watched lots of little babies come out of that thing.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    I hope they were native squirrels! The netherlands almost had an escaped-pet-turned-invasive-species problem because some imported squirrels escaped.

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago

    They were native. It was still illegal. Originally what happened is a pair of squirrels lost their parents and literally wouldn't stop trying to crawl all over us whenever we went outside. So we planned on keeping them safe for a little bit. My mom got attached. Then they got out once and came back so we just left the door open. Eventually they got bored of that "hotel" and just stopped coming around altogether.

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  • [+] 23 points 8 months ago (1 child)
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    Yeah, red panda would make for an adorable pet!

    1. They're cute and fluffy
    2. All they want is to nom nom on their yummy leaves.
    3. Have you seen that thing they do where they put up their arms to make them look more menacing? That doesn't really work, and to me, it just looks like the cute little panda want uppsies.

    I want a red panda

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  • [–] 22 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    I've always wanted an ocelot.

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  • [–] 22 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    Bats. Imagine having a friendly familiar. They could also be used to carry messages.

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  • [–] 14 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Dude I wish. Sadly bats are carriers for all kinds of diseases

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  • [–] 20 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    Foxes. Like a dog, but not.
    Thanks to Russia, we're already partway there.

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    [–] 19 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Otters. They are just too damn cute.

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  • [–] 19 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    For me, it's Racoons, Squirrels, or Crows.

    I used to have a Robin friend, who would keep me company while I gardened, so he could grab a juicy worm from the ground I was turning. I'm currently friends with a pair of Sand Hill Cranes who spend every night in front of my house. I talk them nearly every night. They know me well, I stand right next to them, they aren't afraid of me at all.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    While I envy your ability to get close to wildlife, loosing their fear of humans is really very dangerous for Sand Hill Cranes especially.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Sand Hills aren't very afraid of humans anyway. I've just gotten to know these two well, because they sleep in front of my house every night, for the last several years.

    The only time we don't see them, is when they have an egg at wherever they have their day time spot. For the last few days, only George has been showing up, which means Martha is probably on the egg somewhere. Soon, he'll stay with her, and we won't see them for a couple of months, until their new babies are old enough to fly to our house, their normal nighttime spot.

    The first time they returned with two babies, my mom opened the door, and there was George, most of the way up the driveway, which he had never done before, with Martha and their two babies at the end of the driveway. George wanted to introduce me to his new family!

    So I said "George! Welcome back! Are these your new babies? They're beautiful!" And I walked up to the babies and stood right near them. They got nervous, but Martha and George were fine, so the babies settled down.

    They don't always show back up with babies, which is sad. They laid one in front of our house one year, but it disappeared after a few weeks. We think a coyote took it. George was very sad, and when I approached him after it disappeared, he lifted his head and called loudly. He was sharing his grief with me.

    I know who all the animals around my house are, every bird and mammal, and even a couple of gators, but we don't have relationships. George and I are true friends.

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  • [–] -2 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Sand Hills aren't very afraid of humans anyway.

    Yes, that is the vulnerability that you are exploiting and making worse for an entire family of cranes.

    I've seen this story before. It usually ends in tragedy for the cranes. You've likely already seen the results with the loss of their chick. You blame it on a wild animal without proof, but it's just as likely that the reduction of their fear response to humans (as a direct result of your "kindness") led to their death.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago

    Like it or not, we have to share the world with them, so being kind to them isn't being abusive or exploitive. I don't feed them, chase them, bother them. But they are there in my environment, and I'm in theirs, and we are aware of each other, and get along. That's all.

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  • [–] 18 points 8 months ago (4 children)
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    Cats would be neat to get to that point.

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    Holy shit that would be terrifying. That's basically a fucking velociraptor but smaller.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    Kinda funny actually, because cassowaries are about the same length as a velociraptor, but the average cassowary would be four times the weight. TIL

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Interesting. I guess Jurassic Park lied to us in several ways then

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    I also just found out that ostrich kill more people annually, so maybe I should have asked for a guard ostrich instead?

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    [–] 13 points 8 months ago* (2 children)

    Tapeworms. Lil' butt-buddies.

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    [–] 13 points 8 months ago

    I still think a fox is manageable. Cat software running on dog hardware seems...interesting

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  • [–] 12 points 8 months ago

    BEARS! Gahhhh they look so cuddly and cuuute.

    Having a domesticated bird would be really cool, I think. Like a roadrunner or puffin. A kiwi? Imagine having a hummingbird ride in your front shirt pocket?

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  • [+] 11 points 8 months ago (2 children)
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    [–] 9 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Whatever the Chihuahua version of a giraffe is.

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    [–] 9 points 8 months ago

    Maybe a large seal species. Something to ride in the water, but that could still come on land and fall asleep by the fire.

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    If you could miniaturize them I would totally take a house hippo

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago

    Wombats, they are super cute and apparently quite smart.

    https://youtube.com/shorts/IdgFAIo6NMA

    I would also love to see people riding a diprotodon, which is a distant relative

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    [–] 7 points 8 months ago

    Giraffes of course.

    Silly question.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago

    ferrets are already domesticated, but i think that having more of/some other domesticated weasel would be neat. imagine pet stoat, or mink, or perhaps wolverine

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    [–] 5 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    The Liger. It’s pretty much my favorite animal.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Bears!

    If I had a pet grizzly bear, I'd ride that dude around town all the time.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    I'd love a bear as a pet. Not to ride necessarily, but just for hugs.

    I mean, they look very cuddly irl. I know they're dangerous and I would probably be mauled alive... but I'm just saying, there's a reason why one of the most popular and beloved toys of all time is a cuddly doll made in the likeness of a bear cub

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago

    Quokka of course.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    I would like a dog-sized elephant, please and thank you.

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