A couple of 20-year-old developers make $500,000 a month promising to help men to stop watching porn, but exposed their private porn watching habits.

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[–] 226 points 8 months ago (49 children)

its creators, Alex Slater and Connor McLaren, did not fix its security issues despite multiple requests and an offer from an independent researcher to help them fix the problem.

FUN! How much ya wanna bet this was vibe-coded?

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  • [+] -89 points 8 months ago (46 children)

    Once you learn how to CODE, you’ll realize how dumb it is to blame everything on AI.

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  • [–] 113 points 8 months ago (27 children)

    Once you learn how to code, you'll realize how dumb it is to vibecode.

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  • [+] -68 points 8 months ago (26 children)

    Right. It’s called using AI. Not letting your vibes make decisions. Glad you agree.

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  • [–] 36 points 8 months ago (20 children)

    The vibe coding thing is a meme that originated in what devs at Microsoft said about how they develop while using AI, if I recall correctly. So vibe-coding has become synonymous with using AI to write the majority of your code.

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  • [+] -43 points 8 months ago (19 children)
  • [–] 20 points 8 months ago (17 children)

    "The software developer describes a project or task in a prompt to a large language model (LLM), which generates source code automatically. Vibe coding typically involves accepting AI-generated code without reviewing it, instead relying on results and follow-up prompts to guide changes." A.I. written code. Software devs normally check the code for bugs not just accepting whatever code is thrown at them with no checks. It is why real developers are making money fixing the A.I. bullshit code.

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  • [+] -32 points 8 months ago (16 children)

    Right. Actual vibe coding is rare in real development. Especially large companies. You’d know this if you were a developer. But it’s much more fun to complain about AI with such… “confidence.”

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  • [–] 13 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    So you're an AI shill, interesting. Have you ever considered you may not be very smart?

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  • [+] -16 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    I’m only teasing people who don’t know what AI is.

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  • [–] 14 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Nah, you're just making yourself look like an ignorant, stubborn and obtuse douche.

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  • [–] 15 points 8 months ago (9 children)

    lol you wish. You don't know how many vibecoded bullshit PRs I have to review on a daily basis. AI is undeniably making developers worse.

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  • [+] -18 points 8 months ago (8 children)

    That’s because your developers don’t give a shit. It’s not because they’re worse! It’s because they’re just waiting to get laid off. Most of them probably want to get laid off. And if you are reviewing PR‘s and you can’t control them using AI, you’re part of the problem.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    Even your strawman is an idiot, developers that don't give a shit and want to get laid off are objectively worse than developers that give a shit and want to do their job well.

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    Yes, bad developers that want to get fired are worse than good developers like me that want to do a good job. Except I'm not a developer, but the logic applies to all jobs.

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  • [–] -3 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    I can tell you’re not a developer.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Wow, good reading comprehension hahahaha

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  • [–] -1 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Yes. By your opinions, not your confession. So, why should I listen to your uneducated opinion on something you admit to knowing nothing about?

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago*

    Actually the only opinion I gave, that someone who wants to do a good job is better than someone who doesn't want to do a good job, is extremely well-informed and logically unassailable. Try it, just try and assail that shit, you can't do it. Better luck next time!

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago*

    I'm confused why you linked a Wiki article that reiterates almost exactly what I said? Think the only difference is that it was originally coined by the dude who helped start OpenAI.

    And no, most major dev teams aren't "vibe coding," but that's where it becomes a meme. People use it as an insult as well for shit code.

    Regardless, your main argument here that "real devs aren't vibe coding," is irrelevant, as the people in the original article don't seem to be competent devs. It's very possible they used AI-slop code; but, even if they didn't, they did a piss-poor job so it might as well be insulted as such.

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago* (4 children)

    it's called using AI

    Oh, I thought it was called "another AWS outage"

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  • [+] -28 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    AWS had outages before AI. But since you know nothing about software development, I’m not surprised you thought that.

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  • [–] 24 points 8 months ago* (11 children)

    One of my biggest gripes with coding AI like Claude is how desperately polite and flattering they are. I wish there was a way to feed it hand written code to analyze for bugs and security flaws, then have the AI relentlessly roast your shitty code.

    "LMFAO, you dumb b!tch! Are you trying to get hacked and sued, by or are you just that stupid? Here are a few steps you can take to fix your shit code and have it adhere to standard coding practices. "

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  • [–] 11 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Sounds like Linus needs to pivot to make his own Claude clone..

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    So i was reading a thread from the linux kernel mailing list where linus pointed out someone's coding mistake and why it would lead to a bug...

    So i fed the patch email into google gemini pro, and it spotted the same bug as linus

    I thought that was interesting.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago* (1 child)

    Hey ChatGPT, respond to all of my inquiries like my toxic abusive uncle. The more vicious the response the better. Withhold praise. Pretend it's opposite day and give me your best compliments in the form of the life-long truama that I have come to associate with authority figures.

    Here's my code. What do you think?

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    You can give it rules.

    I work with Gemini a lot and I told it to cut all the polite crap out and just give the facts I need.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    On the rare occasion I use LLMs, I just wish they would respect my request for a list of like twenty bullets and nothing else, instead I get two paragraphs of bs and four bullets.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago* (1 child)

    I figured out a way to do this, via Alpaca.

    In Alpaca you can set an LLM with a persistent prompt.

    Basically, I just told the thing hey, you're too sycophantic, often needlessly verbose, and often overly confident... can you generate a prompt for yourself to address those issues?

    Roughly 30 minutes of trial and error along those lines later, now its quite matter of fact, and is at least more likely to tell me when it is aware it is making an assumption, and ask me for clarification or if i can give it more context, and it doesn't do the kind of weird, intro and outro paragraphs where it basically just reassures you that your ideas are wonderful and you are valid and i just think the things you say are so interesting!

    Then, you feed it a script, ask it do a sanity check, and it will generally go through and identify strenghts and weakness of the code, at least as it perceives such.


    Beyond that, Alpaca recently introduced a ... character system, that is ostensibly tailored toward making specific kinds of conversational chat bots... but it also introduced a kind of 'dictionary' system, where you can give it a kind of additional permanent reference knowledge, to associate with certain terms.

    I have not tried this yet, but, I'd be willing to be that you could say, jam that with a bunch of examples of syntax and methods from a particular language or library... and my guess would be that you could thus tailor a 'character' that is more up to date or specific to some domain.

    So... you could give it the main prompt of something like "You are a tsuntsun senior programmer who has nothing but contempt for any coding mistakes, and you pride yourself on coming up with entirely novel insults for each inadequacy you notice."

    ... And then give it a 'dictionary' that pertains to syntax, methods, perhaps even broader concepts...

    And that might actually produce your desired vicious asshole senior programmer persona.

    Of course, this is not going to work for like, an entire massive codebase, unless you're the one stockpiling all my the RAM.

    But for smaller projects or just single scripts... it might kind of work.

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  • [–] -4 points 8 months ago

    I don’t think it will ever cuss at you, but your can have it be more critical. It say to me all the time, “this or probably a bad idea, before I do this, consider this alternative” (paraphrasing)

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  • [–] -2 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    But don't you see how many upvotes that got them?

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  • [+] -7 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    I don’t see votes. And I assume you agree with everything that is upvoted like a good little slave?

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  • [–] 68 points 8 months ago (7 children)

    $500k a month?!

    To literally do nothing but jerk each other off.

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  • [–] 25 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    I'm as straight as could be but fucking sign me up.

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  • [–] 39 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    People are so fucking weird

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  • [–] 22 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Masturbating I get, becoming addicted to something you enjoy I get, using a third party app to try to break your addiction seems dumb but I get how desperation can make you dumb

    What I absolutely can't get is what anyone could productively do with this data. Like, I don't even think blackmailing someone with this could work. The worst you could say about someone with it is that they had a porn habit they didn't like and were trying to change it, and anyone rational is just gonna say "I don't see what's the big deal with watching porn, but good on you for attempting some kind of self improvement I guess."

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago*

    I'd imagine someone who watches something illegal would be judged pretty harshly by their peers even if you can't deny that they were trying to seek help. Like, if someone were to seek help for homocidal thoughts, and their employer and friends found out, I can't imagine they'd have a job and many friends left. If there are any influential people who used this app, and were into some unsavory things, I could definitely see there being some blackmail going on.

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  • [–] 50 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    Wow this comment section is actually awful. If you're somehow seeing this early on in the list: get out of here before it's too late. There are some really, really toxic takes in here.

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  • [–] 21 points 8 months ago

    Giving a business details of your most intimate private life. What could go wrong!?

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  • [–] 19 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    I wonder how many usernames are stuff like:

    • Dicksy Normus
    • A nelprober
    • Dicnbutt
    • Hugh Janus
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    [–] 17 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    ... Should have just rented out chastity cages.

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  • [–] 26 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Fucking dorks lmao

    Ftr, women do this too with their menstrual cycles. Stop using apps to report your most intimate info and then being surprisepikachu.jpg when they harvest your data lol

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  • [–] 18 points 8 months ago*

    can we stop weaponizing "therapy speak" buzzwords for every, single, thing.

    That isn't victim-blaming, that's not what that word means. Your stretched use of it here isn't helpful outside of self-serving to show everyone that you know the word "victim-blame", further diluting the word until it's meaningless jargon speak. Stop.

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    [–] 12 points 8 months ago

    not the predictable outcome or a predatory marriage of capitalism and puritanicalism

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  • [–] 11 points 8 months ago

    "Porn addiction? There's an app for that."

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    Sometimes I think that myself - I'm probably capable of building something like this. But then the problem is that I am not a total piece of shit so I just work a regular job and live ok while people like this buy a new yacht.

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  • [–] 20 points 8 months ago

    What a grift.

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    404media is a super high quality new independent news source and they specifically broke this story as they've been breaking a ton of big stories (it seems like at least one per week) since they started up. It's run by a bunch of former Motherboard (Vice News) reporters who broke tons of big stories for Motherboard back in the day.

    It sucks that it's paywalled but journalists have to eat too and as an independent media company they don't have the option of operating at a loss that, say, Arstechnica can as a subsidiary of the behemoth Conde Nast which itself is (was?) a subsidiary of AT&T

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