Hey, lots of text ahead, but it seemed like you wanted some information of the situation so I did my best.

For the dodging, it's the opposite, the faster something goes, the harder it is to dodge it in the air. You can only move so fast, and you can only change direction so fast. Especially if you're only doing 300 knots

The missile is faster than you, and it's more maneuverable than you. Best case you can bleed it out of energy. But that's not gonna happen in this situation.

The f18 shot them from within visual range. Don't quote me on it. But from what I heard, he used IR seeking missiles. I don't believe the planes can give you an alarm for them. They're not blasting you with a detectable radar wave. It's looking at your IR signature with a camera. In this case, from a rear aspect. And modern missiles will narrow their focus a lot to avoid locking onto flares. You'd have to pre-flare a lot, and/or bloom your flares out while making a maneuver to have even the slightest chance of avoiding it coming from the rear.

Regardless, even if they would get an alarm. I highly doubt there's anything they could do. It's very short range, they're going slow. The missile is very fast. It's like you decided to go to the bathroom. And mid shit someone kicks the door open and starts to punch you. You don't exactly have a lot of options.

I do not have a time frame of the entire event. I'm not sure that kind of information have been made available. Though I have not been active in researching this daily. There are some very qualified people on YouTube that have been breaking down the few videos we have available. I've seen a few as they pop up. It's a very strange situation.

Shooting down 1 friendly is bad, really really, really bad... it can happen. But it's bad. Shooting down 2 is unthinkable, and 3, we're into the territory of seriously considering it must have been deliberate.

Maybe at some point in the future we will get a full rapport of what and how it happened.

But the F18, if it had its radar on, should have seen that those were friendly contacts. Planes "squawk" a signal. And we use that to determine if it's a friendly plane or not. Planes also have what's called a RWR system. Radar Warning Reciever. It detects when you are hit by radar waves, and can thus give you an alarm that someone can see you. And this is also what will detect if you are locked on to by another plane.

But it can't detect if something is visually locking on to you. Such as an IR seeking missile.

People familiar with the F18 and the training those pilots recieve, are very suspicious because they know what the training entails. You have to KNOW what it is you're shooting at. If you're not entirely 100% sure, they say the procedure is to fly within visual range and visually identify the target. At that point. It should be obvious for the pilot that it's not a drone, it's an aircraft. And it should be obvious that it's first of all, not a mig29. And should also be obvious that Iran isn't going to fly migs inside of Kuwait, while cruising at 300 knots.

Hold on, you're complaining that I've repeatedly somehow insulted you personally by saying going along with Trumps notion that this isn't a war is defending his stance that it isn't a war.

Yet you started by saying I simping for hegseth, and that's not a personal attack?

Yes. Declaration of war and an act of war are two different things. Very astute of you. But they both lead to the same thing. War.

You don't have to declare war to start one. Or be in one. You can just as easily start one by committing an act of war. That's why it's called "an act of war". It's an action someone would take if they were at war with someone.

I know you don't think the US is at war with Iran. But I say Bombing their military installations and sinking their navy is more than proof of the US being at war with Iran. And pretty much every single country would agree with that.

You seem to be offended by just about anything. I don't think it's a direct personal attack to say I think you're a moron if you believe I'm defending hegseth after I've stated numerous times that I'm not, noting his actual war crime of bombing shipwrecked civilians outside of Venezuela and hoping he is brought to justice for it.

If that's a belief you still retain then it is what it is. If not, you have nothing to be upset about.

Oh, and I comprehend what I quoted you perfectly. If you read it thoroughly you will understand that militaries can exercise a litany of 'possible actions' that does not constitute them personally sailing by and picking up survivors. As long as it's a decision taken in "good faith". Which is in itself up for some serious interpretation

Good luck. You'll need it.