Internet is not dying, it is being murdered
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It's been going to shit for years, but it is almost incomprehensible how quickly it has fallen in the last 6-12 months. If I try to find any review/comparison in an attempt to be a somewhat informed consumer, and it's just all slop.
We need a browser extension with a whitelist for accounts that are either verified, or created before 2022. If the extension gets popular and people start buying old accounts to post spam on, then it would also need a blacklist for confirmed spammers.
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I think switching to Peertube is an effective strategy since channels actually use the disk space for proper videos.
Yeah this is a huge problem now. Ai generated bullshit has ruined YouTube and it was already ruined by too much garbage.
"Versus" videos or articles in general seem to be especially susceptible to being awful garbage
Top [number] [product/place] in [year].
Real travel videos for niche places are so annoying to find now.
Good luck finding a review of a niche product category among the slop lists.
Real travel videos for niche places are so annoying to find now.
I've really been enjoying https://youtube.com/@ririregine
Capitalism makes it worth it to setup an Agent and 50 new channels on YT that does nearly the same. It doesn't matter how many people gets spammed as long as some views are amassed. It already happens in normal biz on all levels. All AI 'slop' is just Capitalist slop. Really, it's only there to make money.
I find them annoying too, but unfortunately, AI accelerates the Capitalist enshittification we see everywhere..
I miss the days when making money from posting things on the Internet wasn't really a (widespread) thing. In the earliest days of YouTube there was no partner program, everyone who uploaded anything there did so out of enthusiasm; if we still had that, maybe we'd have fewer videos overall, but no one would have a reason to post AI slop or other low-quality videos just for profit.
Youtube is already pretty bad anyways. Adding LLM tools and similar, as a local saying goes, is just a fart to who already shat him/herself.
Can't wait for YouTube to fuck up media hosting for everyone because the ai they've been pushing is flooding their servers.
Truly, who could have seen this coming?
i love the two generic handsome white dudes, who the fuck sees that kind of guy and thinks "ah yes that's the ideal source for computer advice" rather than "oh i've never seen those football teams before"
I personally think Mormon or they want to steal my organs and/or my credit card information. But I've got a list of problems and being trusting ain't one, I blame CPS.
I think they are just going with the meta that people tend to click on videos that have faces on the thumbnail. They were just lazy on what face they put on there.
Let's hope places like Lemmy stay relevant, vivid and slop-proof.
I think itโs always going to be a migration from place to place. As people find genuine places to talk to each other industrialists will find a way to pollute and destroy it.
Short form videos are especially flooded with slop and AI voice summaries of movie plots and DIY hacks. Its depressing, but also I'd like to cut back on my mindless content watching and maybe this is the motivation I need.
Imo, just try something out. Fedora has a live USB that you can use to try out drivers, look/feel, etc. See if it meets your needs.
CachyOS also has a live USB.
But I'd actually go a step further. Install both in a VM using their flagship DE. CachyOS's installer actually comes with many different DEs and window managers, so you should be able to get the look and feel of many different setups there, too.
No, not dying. Evolving, adapting to new developments. It is our job to oppose the ones that are not in our interest. The only way we can do is reject these. Unfortunately YT is a lost battle b/c they do not allow downvoting or blocking. In the search results or related videos they are peddling the same AI shit, without people being able to block channels.
If anything, it is YouTube that is dying. No worries though, the Internet will provide something else in its place.
You are partially right. It sucks that the first 3 reviews are slop, but after that is mostly human stuff.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLaKmCmar3E
Also. You can use one of the third-party YouTube clients available for Linux to have more way to filter off content and ads (sadly It won't filter off the Ai slop, at least for now). One of the most used is Piped.
If you're wondering about Fedora vs CachyOS, it comes down to what you do on your PC. And what you're used to.
If you want better "preconfiguration" for graphics stuff, CachyOS is the way to go. With Fedora you will end up referencing and maintaining a whole lot more yourself, while the CachyOS maintainers basically do all that maintinance and config optimization for you.
But Fedora might be better for a less GPU-focused "workstation" type system.
Generally, I'd look at the "style" and interests of distro maintainers. CachyOS is built by a collective of linux gaming/compute enthusiasts that snowballed into popularity, though it does inherit all the work from Arch. Fedora is a long standing workstation/server workhorse, a "pre release" for Red Hat enterprise linux.
well ... what would you like to know?
Currently on Kubuntu and I love it, but keen to see if there's a better KDE desktop out there.
Fedora seems great, but is it stable enough to also recommend to friends?
Iโve been running Fedora with KDE on both my Thinkpad and gaming desktop for like 6 months. I like it a lot.
It might not be my first choice to recommend to Linux-cautious friends, it stays pretty bleeding edge in terms of updates, which might occasionally cause a little chaos.
Fedora or OpenSuSE are what I'd suggest for kde (or just generally speaking).
Both are wonderful. I still recommend Fedora to most new users, but I decided to test drive CachyOS almost year ago and then never went back. Cachy is so cozy.
Litterally though, YouTube is so broken now.
They keep watering down the desktop interface and showing me videos that look so inauthentic.
Why would you even search YouTube for that sort of thing? Videos are a terrible format for communicating informationally dense topics.
I like consuming videos, Maybe it's the ADHD.
Often when I eat or in the background while I juggle doing 3/4 other things at the same time
I get that, but when looking for specific information I don't have the patience to wait for some slowpoke babbling and going off on tangents. I want information, not fluff.
Eh, It's nice to see someone showcase things in a video format. It's sometimes hard to find the right blog and ones that aren't opinionated.
I don't JUST watch videos to learn things, I google, check Forums, ask AI, watch videos etc. and then try to form a picture based on all the info I have
Shoutout to blocktube: https://github.com/amitbl/blocktube
Usually, the same "few" slop channels dominate a specific topic, so add them to a blocklist and the filtering gets reasonably good.
It's absolutely insane that YouTube doesn't allow this as a native feature.
Honestly, seeing a stock photo guy or woman in a thumbnail nowadays screams AI-generated content. I stay away from those at all costs to prevent YouTube deciding to recommend me more
YouTube is like Imgur, it's a media dump. Most of it is trash. If you're going directly to YouTube.com or from any place other than community link recommendations or to your known curated channels; then it is no surprise that you come across shit 90% of the time.
The fact that their search function fails to find relevant guides or tutorials is a real loss, but they've opted to enshittify.
An advertisement company built off the work of a search engine can't get search right on arguably their biggest app. Baffling.
Their search has been shit for a long time. It has helped other search engines though. My brothers resisted leaving Google because they found the search quality was best. Now it's shit enough for them to consider that DDG does just as good a job.
Allowing their search and video platform to get flooded by AI is insane, but they're fully committed because they're chasing their own AI agenda so they can't really stand against AI. Amazon has done the same by allowing their platform to be flooded with cheap, useless, generic products and fake reviews. The real baffling thing is why people still keep using (and even worshipping) these asshole companies.
You have a misunderstanding of what "get search right" means. For Google's profits, the search is exactly the way they want it to be. They don't give a shit whether it's actually useful to you or not.
It doesn't matter what topic you search... that's all YouTube recommendations are anymore.
YouTube is still decent if you can ignore their recommendations. I use other apps (Pipepipe, Grayjay) and my feed is just the creators I want. No ads, no slop, no nonsense. It's like YouTube was 20 years ago.
Yep I use that too,back to the good old days! Internet was so good then.
Ublock huge blocklist, private DNS, and VPN are essential to me using the internet today.
Hard to believe not everyone on the internet does this. Its like they enjoy slop. Then again people still use x so..there's not really hope for humanity lol
There are plenty of quality channels out there. Maybe it takes a bit longer to find them but it's possible.
Any you can recommend to help me with my comparison?
Explaining Computers and The Linux Experiment are among my favourites.
TheBlackDon, laustoic, breadonpenguins, or if you REALLY want a good breakdown between distros I highly recommend SuperUser Tech. He pretty much goes through a lot of distros from the perspective of someone new to Linux and his videos are very thorough.
TonyBTW is great when you're looking to setup whatever distro you pick. he's pretty much done them all. Veronica Explains is also good for other various Linux stuff and setups. and if you ever go down the path of NixOS then Vimjoyer is a must subscribe to learn that distro.
I want to believe that using invidious-based frontends tend to circumvent the perfidious google method to position first those that pay for positioning.
Imho, the rolling VS point release, desktop environement and X11/Wayland has much more impact than "the distro" choice
Stick with a more popular and try different desktop environnements
i hate how i cant tell its AI
I was ~6min into the first video when I thought Hey is this AI? went back and saw yea fuck all of these are AI -_-
It's annoying because there are legit content creators like https://www.youtube.com/@LogicallyAnswered
Who aren't AI but they look and feel like AI so people accuse them of being AI
I was listening to some Warren Buffett and Richard Feynman videos and it turns out they were AI. I was like, oh I hadn't heard this lecture before ...
I really hate it. There's a rage bait one that I tried to report that claimed these influencers would climb Everest and die because they were too busy taking selfies and stuff. Like full on 20 minute episodes. People were saying how there's no record of any of these people in the comments and it annoys me.
I'm going to only watch videos where I can see the person now but I've seen videos of people using a damned good AI filter on top. An Indian guy put on a blonde white girl overlay and it was really good.
There are ublock lists which block lots of ai content from loading,maybe look into that
Soon we'll need uAllow, only open what is on safe lists
That's pretty much NoScript or uBlock's "hard mode."
I prefer "medium mode", but ublock hides it behind a few somewhat cryptic steps:
https://github.com/gorhill/ublock/wiki/Blocking-mode:-medium-mode
don't think there's any public list of AI slop youtube channels, or that kinda crowd sourced youtube channel blocklist system. the ublock lists usually block a specific website.
I always access youtube through GrayJay, PipePipe or FreeTube, and rarely see these random AI slop recommendations.
Which of these 3 do you recommend?
If AI was so smart they would use a girl with ponytails and high socks in linux videos
Cash grab creators are cash grab creators. Shit will be shit. I would argue that AI makes it a considerable order of magnitude easier to churn out garbage, which makes it a matter of scale.
It's like fake nudes. Back in the days of film photography you could still make fake nudes by physically cutting anf pasting images together. It was considerably more work and low quality. Now you can generate much higher quality fake nudes far far faster, even faking different angles and facial expressions from the input.
That inarguably changes things.
God forbid someone who knows Linux but doesn't have video production skills or a shitty voice generate audio based on a script.
There are tons of alternative options besides using AI to generate voiceover. There's the tried and true "put text on the screen", even just by typing shit in a note taking program as you record.
There's no need to make a video at all if you don't have the skills/resources. People can make blog posts, websites, posts on forums or sites like this very one where they just type out the text and include screenshots or short video clips where necessary.
And there are plenty of people with negative levels of video production skills and bad voices still fucking doing it anyway.
There is no situation where using AI voice is actually necessary to get the information out.
The difference is the amount of effort expended on the video. If you actually make the video yourself, you want a good return on your time. That means - usually - that you don't want the majority of your comments to be about how your facts are wrong, because you want people to come back and watch more of your videos.
AI channels, on the other hand, don't care at all. They don't need subscribers. They don't need likes. They're just putting out high volumes of crap content with clickbait titles to get whatever scraps they can sucker out of people. They know they won't ever get recurring visitors, so they don't need to fact-check anything. And AI has made it so that they can churn out this content ridiculously fast and make it nearly indistinguishable from quality content at first glance, at minimal cost.
If it takes you hours to make your video, I'm more likely to want to hear what you're saying. AI videos are an attack against our attention; it takes less effort to make than it does to consume, now, and the quality of the content reflects that.
The point of these LLM videos isn't to provide information, but to farm clicks. They're full of completely made up nonsense mixed with info copied and reworded from real sources.
As an example, when I search for info about the Canon R7 Mark II (a rumored upcoming camera), they seem to paraphrase Canonrumors articles, but the image "slideshow" makes no sense, and they add in all sorts of straight up impossible assertions and specs. But the uploader doesn't care because they've uploaded thousands of these, and a few might make them some nickels.
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