So does this mean we won't have to give Google hundreds of $$$ to get one of their Pixels?🙏
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I was planning on switching in the future to Motorola, because they had external SD cards. And stylus support.
Now if they can keep that and put the os on those I know what I am buying in 3 years!
This is amazing. In a few markets, Motorola is the only real choice for entry phones, besides some 4G Samsung models. Hope this arrives soon.
Nice, so I only need my phone to last a few years more and hopefully I can degoogle the next one
This could be huge. Graphene team’s insistence on using dogshit hardware will be challenged, and Motorola likely has the sway to unblock banking apps (on certified phones)for users on grapheneOS. Hopefully
I haven't heard Pixel phones described as "dogshit hardware" before. Aren't they pretty much on a level with the competition?
Not even close, maybe you were tricked by the price
I just wasn't paying attention. I stopped looking at hardware specs (apart from storage and memory) some years ago when everything seemed to run well enough. I've been using second-hand Pixels for GrapheneOS and that's another reason I didn't pay attention, since they were the only option for it and I was buying old stuff anyway. I'm curious to see what Motorola and GrapheneOS come up with.
Fair enough! Phones have absolutely gotten to the point where most people can’t effectively tell the difference between a mid range phone from 5 years ago and the latest flagship. All my Pixel-owning friends had to switch/upgrade after -at most- two years due to various issues, which is what colored my opinion of them being dogshit.
I've been waiting for this news. Always rubbed me the wrong way that in order to use graphene, you had to buy a google phone.
This definitely makes me interested in Moto as my next phone (in a year or two).
Motorola is on the boycott Israel list, how are they better than the Pixels? (Which also are I guess)
Cautiously optimistic about this. The fact that I still have to have to have a Google phone irks me, but if this all pans out I can finalize the divorce from Google once and for all.
While there is a concern Motorola might try to push Graphene to worse ways, I feel like Graphene has more traction nowadays and should therefore resist better. And if bad signs start showing, people should help push Graphene against those.
GrapheneOS so far have been very particular about what they want. I dont see that changing unless they got a lot of money under the table.
nice! Honestly stoked about the option, this means my next phone will probably be a motorola
Well, it's about freakin' time, and we got confirmation about who GrapheneOS partnered with.
Honestly this was one of the best possible outcomes.
It was never gonna be Samsung since their Galaxy brand was too strong.
I was hoping it wasn’t HTC because just about anything by them not called the One M7 was a complete piece of shit. It’s part of the reason I never trusted Pixel (they were made by HTC until Google bought their hardware division and all that baggage).
LG and Motorola were both attractive options. Motorola stayed in the US and is now (? Or was once?) owned by Lenovo (China). LG is Korean. I honestly like LG more, but Motorola is cool too. I just remember 15 years ago when they wouldn’t even update phones once. What you bought was what you ended up with when you got something newer. Hopefully things are different now.
iPhone guy but I also have a Galaxy S10 (2019). I kinda wanna upgrade it next (iPhone is a 16 Pro Max from 2024, It should be fine for a decade or so). I took a long hard look at that OnePlus that ticked every box but had mid cameras (15?). The base Galaxy S feels like the default option. It would be fine. A gently used year old Pixel I can put Graphene on is another. I don’t do mobile gaming (except Subway Surfers, that shit is fun, but it’s also from like 2007 or something so it’s not pushing mobile gaming anywhere except into the trash, it really is hot garbage but fun) so I don’t care about top performance. I really just care about music, maps, and being able to get online. Really gives me a lot of options. The iPhone’s basically just for private health tracking you can’t get on Android. And AirPods.
And AirPods.
https://github.com/kavishdevar/librepods
I am an iPhone user too, but have been wanting to move to AOSP for while. All phones are so large now, so am using a mini. Hopefully Graphene works on a razr (flip) soon!
I do know that there are ways to use AirPods (with limited functionality) on Android. Same with the watch, though my S10 (oddly, my Apple Watch and Samsung phone have the same name) will be my last smartwatch. I'm just not impressed with the technology. I'll either just stick to department store watches ($50 or less) or I'll find a fitness tracker I don't hate. I dunno. Leaning toward the basic one, though. I just don't need a watch to do more than tell the time. And they take so long to charge. Like you almost have to get two, and charge them every other day while you sleep (that is, if you want to wear one for sleep tracking — if not, just charge it at night, they seem to take a few hours to charge).
They’re owned by Lenovo right? I think while this is great news for graphene we should still keep an eye out for red flags.
After all Lenovo is under CCP jurisdiction. (Not that being under USian jurisdiction is any better). But if we care about privacy we should definitely always keep a bit of scepticism.
I'm curious if this just means that GrapheneOS will be supported on future Moto devices... Or if Motorola devices are going to ship with GrapheneOS.
It could be that they don't really know themselves.
Lenovo / motorola has loads of corporate clients. Given google's close links to the US government it seems likely that clients would be demanding ungoogled phones.
Sounds as though, in the first instance GrapheneOS foundation is going to be advising motorola on mods to their OS to disable telemetry, and in exchange motorola will be supporting them to optimise GOS for motorola hardware.
Depending on how these things go, they might offer it pre-installed, but it seems more likely that motorola would rebrand a downstream soft fork, and ship it with some of their own BS.
By combining GrapheneOS’s pioneering engineering with Motorola’s decades of security expertise, real‑world user insights, and Lenovo’s ThinkShield solutions, the collaboration will advance a new generation of privacy and security technologies. In the coming months, Motorola and the GrapheneOS Foundation will continue to collaborate on joint research, software enhancements, and new security capabilities, with more details and solutions to roll out as the partnership evolves.
I'm optimistic, but worried that this'll be a moto phone with a graphene skin.
Otherwise, it could turn out like OEM Windows (re: moto-graphene) with a ton of bloatware VS windows (re: OSS graphene).
Only phones with hardware-backed verified boot + bootloader relock using alternative keys (currently only Pixels) can support GrapheneOS correctly (according to the GOS team)
So the only thing this can mean is that moto plans to release new hardware with this capability, because none (other then pixels) currently exists.
Dont expect this to mean GOS is coming to older devices. Its unlikely moto will even sell them preloaded because GOS is not exactly the most consumer friendly android fork.
I hate these "news" sites that never link to the fucking source.
Which site is this? "Motorolanews" ok nevermind this is the primary source.
I've been happy with my mid range Motorola g84 for nearly a couple of years. It's been pretty stable given how much I expect from it.
If any manufacturer is going to offer an open OS option, I'm happy it's them.
This is great news for GrapheneOS guys but I don't think it will have a big impact on community. I guess we'll see if this will increase the number of people running alternative ROMs but there's plenty of phones that support Lineage OS. This will help the tiny group of people that need to run GrapheneOS for some reason but don't want to buy a Pixel. It would be amazing if other manufacturers started offering de-Googled phones as well but I don't really see it coming.
This sounds like exactly the type of phone I want!
We'll see. They will probably be expensive. And they're obviously focused on business consumers. And they're also announcing monitoring tools at the same time, which makes me think they won't be distributing devices with vanilla GOS.
A business focus makes sense from a marketing perspective. It's the single largest market that has an obvious need for data security. Regardless of the practical realisation of this it's acknowledgement of a need/market demand and a positive direction for development to be going.
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