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[–] 95 points 8 months ago (10 children)

The only thing Edge is good for is downloading literally any other browser…

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  • [–] 49 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    It also has a good use of being the toilet of browsers. As in, if you ever are required to temporarily install some pervasive plugin or extension to take a proctored exam or something, Edge is good to use because you know you won't use the that browser for anything you care about and you can protect good browsers from those garbage plugins.

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  • [–] 25 points 8 months ago

    That's what I have an entire laptop for. I call it the Dust Collector. It's sole purpose is to collect dust and maybe once or twice a year be ready for a proctored exam. It's not even allowed on my home network.

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  • [+] -9 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    No, that was IE. Edge is decent enough browser for normies, equal to chrome.

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  • [–] 16 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    You're not wrong. Edge is just Chromium with MS branding. It's not a bad browser like IE was.

    Although if they do shit like this it will be.

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  • [–] 41 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Just let the AI have a teensy weensy peek at all of your emails, guys, it's just an itsy bitsy little peek, what's the big deal, why don't you trust us??

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    Companies that use Outlook use Microslop Teams for communication anyway. I work for one of those and honestly? Not my problem. I can‘t make them use open source software and I‘m not paid enough to convince them.

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  • [–] 31 points 8 months ago* (7 children)

    I'll hate it because this already happens with links in MS Teams where despite having a high spec work computer it makes the system so sluggish that the mouse cursor won't move smoothly for 15 seconds or so while it sorts itself out.

    I mean I've already got a Core i7 with 32G of RAM and an NVME sitting on my desk so how much freaking horsepower is THIS little stunt going to take?

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  • [–] 12 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    You don’t have enough AI-ready GPU cores so Teams is running the local copilot model on the CPU with your most recent outlook emails in order to prepare a dummy to send to the cloud for further analysis

    …I don’t know if any of the above is true but if it didn’t even stop you for a second to question it, isn’t it time to get off Windows?

    I’m not even going to recommend an OS, just anything but Windows. Fucking Apple is more trustworthy.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

    You don’t have enough AI-ready GPU cores so Teams is running the local copilot model on the CPU with your most recent outlook emails in order to prepare a dummy to send to the cloud for further analysis

    That's a depressingly probable reason even though you meant it as techno-babble. It is actually possible that the machine doesn't have enough NPU power!

    isn’t it time to get off Windows?

    I'm already using Linux everywhere I can both personally and at work, heck even my work laptop is running Linux. The blocker on my work desktop is that the remote access tool I use multiple times a day doesn't have a functional Linux version.

    I could switch my work desktop over to Apple but I've never liked MacOS.

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  • [–] 22 points 8 months ago

    This experience helps users quickly understand content

    They really think we're stupid. Unfortunately, they may be mostly right.

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  • [–] 20 points 8 months ago

    So somebody took a look at the modern web and thought "Hey, this is pretty good, but you know what would make it even better? Even more shit you didn't ask for popping up in your face with every click!"

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  • [–] 19 points 8 months ago

    "People hate it when we force copilot and AI stuff on them, what should we do? Folks hate it so much they're actively leaving our OS!"

    "Okay, hear me out: Add more."

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  • [+] 18 points 8 months ago (3 children)
  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Microsoft is currently pushing everyone to use office on the cloud, so they kinda are making office work on Linux (in a web browser).

    Outlook running natively on windows is currently being phased out, Of course the cloud services version of outlook sucks eve more than the native version, and that's saying something. It looks like it's just hotmail to me. But that's what they're pushing everyone to. I wouldn't be surprised if the start phasing out other office products running natively in the coming years. Office already does everything it can to save files to one drive.

    Cloud services are making them money, so much like how they're putting AI into everything, they also seem to want to put everything on the cloud because.... more cloud money! After all you can't just continue to use the older version of excel installed on your computer when excel exists in the cloud. You'll have to pay a subscription to continue using their software because it lives in the cloud.

    Yeah your strategy would make sense if Microsoft were still the machiavellian schemers they used to be. But now they just seem to be chasing after money in the short term in whatever looks to be growing (cloud services and AI) with no real long term strategy at all. And they really really want people to pay a subscription to use their software. But in their greed they just might kill their Windows business.

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  • [–] 12 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    "Customers hate AI" means "Cram more AI into everything" to Microsoft.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    I see they are doing this and I can't help but wonder, to what end? I dont know if its just the current internet echo chamber I occupy but it seems to me that its a fairly universally disliked proposition/concept to continue heaping LLMs into everything.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago*

    All they had to do was make a copilot app that you install from the Windows store. Nobody would have disliked them for that. They probably could have even pre-installed it and people would have only groaned.

    But, no, they have to just keep pushing and pushing, regardless of how many times you say no. As Rossmann says: A rapist mentality.

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  • [+] 8 points 8 months ago (4 children)
  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    The company I work for makes us. We have chrome but they're constantly threatening to remove it and if you have a technical issue with something web based and you're not using edge IT won't help you.

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  • [–] 15 points 8 months ago

    Windows users, I hope you guys know that you have our support in these trying times. I'm wearing a ribbon and everything.

    Microsoft only beats you because they love you

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago

    Using a macbook for the picture tho. Rude.

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (5 children)

    I thought they wanted people to use their products?

    this just pushes people away.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    People installing firefox or chrome.

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  • [–] 13 points 8 months ago

    The Grammarly plugin also started opening their AI chat panel in the side panel randomly once a day. And they also have a ton of false positive highligting that's just plain ridiculous since they 'improved' their spelling checker with AI. I uninstalled it.

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  • [–] 13 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Install Linux, Problem Solved.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago

    Cool. Well, Billy pedogates, edge sucks, Outlook sucks, and copilot sucks. Don't use them. Always try to remove them. I know you love to try to shove it on me like your trying to dose the wife for you stds. But Microsoft will always be tainted by you.

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  • [–] 10 points 8 months ago

    haha nuke the partition, put Linux on it

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago

    Ugh I never looked in the top right corner of outlook till today.....there it is, that piece of shit. Why would I need a goddamn summary of an email I'm already reading

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago

    I used Edge for business tasks. Not like work task, or normal browsing, etc. But figured if someone was going to send me an excel document, if I say “well I opened it in edge" when it breaks, it avoids some problems.

    But with the latest updates they've really been "Microsofting" it hardcore. Chrome dialogs with broken buttons, impossible to use combined tabs behaviour, dead end settings pages with no controls, crashes, slower and slower browsing...

    It's becoming such a disaster I can't even use it for that anymore. Now this? Thank god Firefox is still around. Legit hearing people talking about it again...

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago

    Who is making these decisions and what is their come to blood ratio, because I'm reckoning it's fairly high.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago

    I only use Edge at work because of some screen refresh glitch with Chrome. Whenever I would do something in Outlook, the entire screen would blink for a second. Very annoying. I never put a ticket in because Edge worked fine. Now I will have to enter ticket hell.

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    [–] 3 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    I've been learning intune and its terrible, its crazy that even Microsofts new software is garbage.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago

    Oh, you mean Microsoft 365 where UIs all clash, familiar buttons are moved every other month or put into a different admin center, and how disjointed the whole platform is when you want to administer the whole thing? You don't say..

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