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[–] 113 points 8 months ago (11 children)

She was the least popular candidate in 2020, but for some reason Biden chose her as his VP. Then she lost to Donald Trump in 2024, after practically being forced onto the ticket. And she's still thinking about running again?

JFC. Whoever is telling her this is a good idea, needs to be fired.

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  • [–] 21 points 8 months ago (4 children)
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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago* (1 child)

    Michelle Obama is an immensely qualified and insightful human being for a number of reasons and BitchBoyBurr sold his soul to bonesaw McGee and the oil bunch without a second thought and then whined like the pathetic little supplicant he is at heart when people called him out for it. Fuck him forever.

    Talked mad shit about those billionaires until they offered him a check finally. Turned out he was just jealous.

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  • [–] 19 points 8 months ago

    That's the problem with the DNC putting identity politics over matters of policy. And I don't even use that term in the same sense as the right-wing anti-DEI psychosis.

    DEI is a matter of policy. Choosing a milquetoast establishment neoliberal solely because she's a woman of color is identity politics.

    It's better to nominate a progressive regardless of race, gender, or sexuality, than it is to nominate the most intersectional minority who panders to the right-wing "moderates."

    The Dems lost in 2016 because they forced Hillary on everyone when they wanted Bernie. Clearly they still haven't learned their lesson...

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    for some reason Biden chose her as his VP

    Because she was friends with his late son and fellow AG Beau.

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  • [–] 61 points 8 months ago (7 children)

    Her only merit was that she’s not Trump. It’s a very good merit, but let’s hope for some stronger candidate next time, if there ever will be a next time.

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  • [–] 25 points 8 months ago*

    Her only merit was that she’s not Trump

    Correct.

    It’s a very good merit

    Not anywhere near as good as it sounds, given how difficult it is for millions of eligible voters to actually vote.

    No matter how evil the alternative is, you have to give people something to vote FOR in order to convince them to risk their livelihood while waiting in line in November weather for sometimes half a dozen or more hours, quite likely with children in tow or while paying for unaffordable childcare.

    The DNC won't hear of it, though. They're a for-profit corporation that exists to maximize legal (and sometimes illegal) bribes coming their way, regardless of electoral outcomes.

    let’s hope for some stronger candidate next time, if there ever will be a next time.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago

    Being "not Trump" literally only worked cause of Covid. If that didn't happen, I can almost guarantee he would have won 2020. As annoying as it is, the people that would vote for a Dem candidate need to be convinced to do so and no amount of calling them lazy or accusing them of being terrible people will change that. Blue no matter who won't work.

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    She may not be trump in name or appearance but she's a cog in the same machine

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  • [–] 41 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    DNC will fail to read the room on 2028. Lesser evil is over, time to earn votes

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    [–] 33 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    If she wants to win, she needs to be out there today pushing back against the regime. Instead, there's crickets. That's a "No" vote from me.

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  • [–] 26 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    DNC: Newsom/Harris 2028 take it or leave it

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago

    Or they somehow win 2028, normalize all the evil fucked up shit of the Trump admin, then the 2032 republican nominee wants to reintroduce racial segregation and stripping women's voting rights completely (Newsom and Harris made gay marriage illegal already, because it was deemed "too liberal").

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    [–] 24 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    I mean, if she manages to win a contested primary, she'll be a better candidate.

    If nothing else, maybe she and Gavin will split the Goober vote and let some fresh blood in

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  • [–] 41 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    God. Dammit.

    No more fucking neolibs. No Newsom, no Kamala, no Hillary, no Shapiro — fuck the lot of them. We must do everything in power to stop any and every neoliberal traitor from being nominated in 2028.

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    [–] 37 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    She’s already showing us she isn’t listening to us.

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  • [–] 13 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Nope, give us someone better

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  • [–] 28 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    And if she runs again and becomes the candidate, she'll lose again.

    Kamala, dear, you're nearly as milquetoast as Biden. You're female, black, younger Biden. Nobody wanted Biden.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    ...and so many people didn't quite f'n get it that if you don't vote for Harris, you get Trump. Binary choices are easy for kids to understand but hard for American voters.

    Have the day you begged for.

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  • [–] 21 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    We really need to move past First Past the Post, but the people who can institute the change are the people who are elected by FPTP.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    We can in states with voter sponsored ballot initiatives, Michigan I think will be having a ranked choice voting constitutional amendment by referendeum after they submit a million signatures of registered voters or whatever it is.

    Other states already did it, Alaska I know. It is a superior system that rejects extremists candidates, and makes people running third party not play spoiler. If you vote for third party first, you choose if he loses, your vote goes to the democrat. If the democrat loses, then your vote goes to Crimedog McGruff, or whatever.

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  • [–] 19 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    I hope she does run again, because this time she’ll have to face a contested primary. I can’t wait to laugh my ass off when Kamala garners less than 3% of the primary votes. Hope the dumbass DNC wastes several hundred million on her before that happens too, serves them right to back corpo trash like Harris. Not like they’ll ever learn the right lessons from any of this anyway.

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  • [+] -10 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    every second you spend berating the democrats, the right grows stronger. pick your battles friendo. I'm sure your contempt feels good but it's not flipping anyone's vote for midterms. focus on what's important, please.

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  • [–] 11 points 8 months ago

    And what is important? The DNC pushing nationally unelectable, unpopular candidates down the throat of the electorate during primaries, so they can lose the general election to the republican candidate like Hillary Clinton in 2016 and Kamala Harris in 2024?

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  • [–] 33 points 8 months ago* (1 child)

    I'd love for her to run again and take votes away from Gavin Newsom in the primary so an actual working class candidate can win the nomination.

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  • [–] 15 points 8 months ago

    I think Kamala would be a okay President (as in, "not a fucking idiot" ), however she's still a corporate pawn, Israeli shill and centre right like most other Dems who's main selling point is "not Trump". There are few good options within the whole party who actually support social agendas and not whatever a company's lobbyists or Zionists are paying them to support.

    But more crucially, she's a woman, and not white and for 50% of the voting population (i.e. the ones who actually get off the couch to go vote), their racism and misogyny is more than enough reason to not vote for her - in fact, they'd relish in not doing so as it supports their fundamental principles of being a cunt.

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  • [–] 14 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Alright, lose to AOC in the primary then.

    I mean, at this point AOC is the only good option possible out of who is looking at running. If there's someone with a better chance and track record, I am all ears.

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  • [–] 17 points 8 months ago

    You had your shot and chose the establishment. Fuck off into the same hole Biden is in.

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  • [–] 12 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    Yeah, I don't think Harris is the candidate, but who is? I'm skeptical that democratic voters can reach a consensus on a candidate. I'm sure establishment/moderate Democrats can come to a consensus on their candidate, and progressives can come to a consensus on their candidate, but there's only one party nomination. Will the progressives vote for the candidate the moderates come up with? Will the moderates vote for the candidate the progressives come up with?

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  • [–] 19 points 8 months ago

    Right now, we have only one priority, and everything else has to take a back seat until we fully accomplish that objective: We have to crush MAGA decisively, and purge it from our government and our society. We cannot address all the other problems this nation faces as long as we have treasonous, corrupt, racist, pedophiles cheating, bribing, stealing, intimidating their way into power, and keeping good things from happening to this country.

    So the next Democratic president has to be a Warrior. We cannot afford any more feckless Democrats like Biden and Obama, who stood by and watched as the larval Republicans morphed into their final stage: MAGA, and stole America right out from under their noses.

    The next president needs to know that we expect them to FIGHT for us. We are in unprecedented times, and we will require unprecedented solutions, and we need a President who isn't afraid to act decisively toward the true National Security Threat that a violent domestic terrorist organization like MAGA genuinely represents.

    I will support the candidate who pledges to fully crush MAGA, and MEANS it.

    I'm not sure who that person is yet, but I'm looking at Mark Kelly, Pritzker, and a couple others. There are a few I would love to see in the office, like AOC or Warren, but they can't get elected right now. Newsome is a phony billionaire lover.

    I'm waiting for that Warrior to step up, and declare war on MAGA. THAT'S my guy.

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  • [–] 0 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Well said.

    Also: will the progressives vote for the candidate progressives come up with? Because there is always the chance that when it boils down to an actual individual, they may not pass some purity test(s) that are typically run against politicians.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    nice astro turfing btw

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    bad kamala. thats true, americans please keep voting for trump! he's your savior.

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  • [–] -2 points 8 months ago*

    Sadly, the voting idiots of he United States would just elect Donald Trump again if K.H. ran again... even if it meant digging up his dead body...because let's stop lying. It wasn't about het being "chosen" without a primary. She lisy because she was a woman and she was black. Americans will not elect s female president, probably within the next 50 years. Misogyny is alive and well, burning brightly right beside racism, in America. I say that as a white man who had seen and heard every excuse and every lie. Americans are stupid. That's the bottom line. They are ignorant and uneducated, and don't want to be educated. They enjoy their ignorance and their racism and misogyny. They will not change until the Boomers and Gen X (I'm Gen X) are dead and buried because those two generations are a millstone around the neck of this nation. Sadly, we're bringing up an apathetic pair of generations in the form of Gen Z and Gen Alpha who just don't care about anything beyond their pet causes and social media accounts. In the last 30 years, Americans have thrown our once great nation to its knees and they're guilty of raping lady liberty as surely as the Epstein rapists and murderers are guilty of the crimes they committed. I worry that ghhd country I grew up loving is going to have to burn to ash before it can be recovered...IF it can be recovered...which is justifiably questionable. Anyone saying Trump was a better choice should be forced to move to Russia...along with thd people who voted for him - or "obstained" and got him elected. This IS America's WORST GENERATION.

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  • [+] -6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

    Already working for Trump, Putin, and AIPAC I see.

    /u/return2ozma consistently called for no one to vote for Harris, or Biden, during 2024, actively helping Trump to win by sowing defeatist propaganda. They are a Nazi supporter, adjacently.

    They don't care who the DNC runs, they will campaign against them, because no one that makes it through the primary will ever be "pure" enough for this troll.

    Edit: your down vote just helps to prove my point. You are an anti-democracy troll.

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  • [+] -12 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    "A secret postmortem of Harris’s performance by the DNC found that her major issue with voters stemmed from Biden’s poor handling of Israel’s massacre in Gaza and her own refusal to break with him on it, a policy choice that fundamentally soured support from progressives and young voters."

    This statement and seeing who posted it disregards the entire article. This is an attempt to undermine a solid democratic candidate to help the right win in 2028 nothing more.

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