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[–] 32 points 8 months ago

Need a source on “many health and educational Institutions” doing this. Especially since in the wiki article about the JRC it states “…at the time of the ban, the JRC was the only institution in the United States still using electric skin shocks as aversives.” It also refers to the condemnation of the JRC by the UN Special Rapporteur on Torture who declared that the rights of the students at the Judge Rotenberg Center had been violated under the United Nations Convention Against Torture. So this is something that has been widely condemned and appears to be confined to one facility which somehow keeps managing to skirt legalities.

So, what other health and educational institutions are doing this?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judge_Rotenberg_Center

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  • [–] 17 points 8 months ago (2 children)
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    Is Lemmy getting bots?

    I’m seeing more and more posts where OP posts some kind of engagement bait, yet hardly comments in any of the discussion. Yet I don’t know why that would be; karma isn’t used to gate posting like Reddit.

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  • [–] 27 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Coming from Asia, that seems like an insane thing to do. If someone's autistic just let them be.

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    No. It's not ethical. What the fuck is wrong with you? Don't physically abuse children.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    So this is completely different from using shock collars and such. ECT COULD have benefits and from what I understand, people use it as a last resort and some have found relief (severe, persistent depression comes to mind). Is it ethical? I think ECT would be more ethical than a shock collar.

    I think a shock collar would result in the person being more compliant without knowing why what they did (or didn't do) was wrong. This is generally the case with any form of physical punishment. It doesn't teach emotional/self regulation, it just teaches someone to do what is necessary to avoid being hurt.

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    [–] 7 points 8 months ago

    You know, it was once in vogue to lobotomize the mentally ill, too. Just because an institution does it, doesn't make it not barbaric.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago

    No.

    And, by-the-by, "other people are doing it" is never sound ethical reasoning.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    Electric shocks for behavior merely deemed undesirable or noncompliant are barbaric.

    I could imagine them being justified to prevent self-injury when other options have been exhausted. Perhaps they're preferable to constant restraint or sedation.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    Sources needed. Smells like misinformation.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    Autistic person here: No. No, what the fuck? 

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    Hasan Piker is that you?

    Moving on from Dogs to Children huh?

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago
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    No? Wtf, why do these facilities exist, i say that as someone with autism, we are not different from others ffs.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago

    This is an American mentality. In other parts of the world, they let kids be kids. They let them be. They're human beings, whether the child is autistic or not.

    Shocking them is torture.

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  • I’ll say no. But I’m no specialist and there’s a range of possibilities, low shock is not to create mild discomfort seems plausible.

    As far as I know there’s no such thing in Canada

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    Behind the Bastards did a great show on this very topic.

    https://youtu.be/Y909QxWVV8g

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    I don't care who is doing it or what is wrong with the child, fucking no, it's not ethical to use shock collars on children for fucks sake.

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