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[–] 42 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (5 children)

There is a monastery in my city, right in the centre. The youngest nun is over 80 something. I was thinking, if the women from our group of friends would join them, soon those nuns would die and we would have this massive building in the city centre all for ourselves to live, party, build community workshops etc. We would basically steal the infrastructure from the church. Also we would destroy the bells and sell the copper, so the entire surroundings would never have to endure this horrible sound anymore.

But whenever I present the women in my group with my idea they just launch. Kinda understandable, I wouldn't want to pretend and live as a nun for a few years, or even a day myself.

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Seems to be working for the right wing. Replace 'church' with 'government office' and 'nun' with 'elected officials'.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago*

    Well, they use the church and their religion as an argument for all the things they want and do.

    Even though everything they want and do would send them immediately to the lowest levels of hell, if their fairytale actually existed.

    I think South Park did an amazing job explaining this in their latest season(s).

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    The convent likely belongs to an outside group that exerts control over it. There were crackdowns in the middle ages on convents because some tried to turn into lesbian communes with Jesus.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    No it is owned by the nuns. They recently sold some property because it was too much for a handful of oldies to maintain.

    Also, we're not living in the middle ages anymore.

    lesbian communes with Jesus.

    I always knew he was a pussy.

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  • [–] 20 points 8 months ago (11 children)

    I want to so bad. Unfortunately any plot of land that's worthwhile is too expensive

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  • [+] [S] 11 points 8 months ago (6 children)
  • [–] 18 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    Everyone I know to do it with is broke too

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    I hear there's a guy starting a commune in Honduras.

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  • [–] 13 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    me, my best friend, her husband, and our mutual friends all want to charter a nonprofit llc charity organization whose mission is to aid individuals who do not have stable housing and, through this organization because corporations have more rights than people in this hellscape nightmare world, purchase this particular gorgeous 18 acre plot of land in rural [REDACTED STATE]. there, we shall found our Gay Furry Commune, sharing our roof and walls with those who lack, non-transactionally, although persons who are lgbtq etc we intend to prioritize for assistance--specifically to help them EVACUATE THE UNITED STATES. Or, if they manage to build up the gumption and elbow grease, to metastasize into a gay furry commune branch of their own, provided we can help them locate an available land plot, guide them through the organizational setup, and coordinate the assets.

    Housing is so absurdly expensive that we figure even a 'donate what you can' (and if you have nothing to give then that is okay) model that brutally undercuts the market by 90% on average will still be enough to balance the nonprofit's ledger or even expand its mission. Because It's not that a nonprofit can't 'make money'--it's that it can't keep money. The funds gathered via donation etc must be earmarked for the work. An organization still has bills to pay and has to be able to hire contractors for specialized work on occasion, they have to have a budget for the pursuit of projects.

    Landlords get to keep their ill gotten gains. This organization does not. Its books are required to be transparent, its funds are required to be accounted for, with absolutely no "payouts" to "investors".

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Not that it sounds like you or your friends would, but plenty of non-profits still manage to funnel absurd amounts of money to their owners. So you may want to lean less on saying it's not possible because of non-profit, but instead not possible due to how you'd run it.

    Notably, OpenAI was originally non-profit.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    Okay--yes, true, real, absolutely accurate; there is definitely phrasing better than what I used to describe what we want to do. It would also be nice to not be starving to death while doing this work, but my mindset is rather fixated on reinforcing beyond question that this isn't for anyone to get rich and that we intend to take all possible measures against that kind of exploitative shit. One thing in particular that is objectively better than "a very comfortable life for me" is "a fairly comfortable life for a whole lot of people".

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  • [–] 13 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    If you ever join a cult or commune, ask about the toilet situation first

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    they would use their sewage to fertilize the gardens.

    as im sure youre aware: absolutely terrible idea, anyone says this to you: run.

    You have to maintain human waste at a 10:1 poop:notpoop mixture, and then a 3:1 poop-mixture:greenery ratio at 135°F and 6.5pH for at least 30 days with regular turning and mixing before you can use it.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Or I believe you can store it for over a year in a liquid state before applying.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    It's this, not rocket surgery. Wait a couple years for good measure. Got to move the outhouse once in a while anyways. One hole being shit in, one cooking/starving itself clean, one ready to go into the garden. Size your pit right/get a rhythm figured out and you too can cycle your outhouse through my patented Three Hole System with ease, turning turds to terrific tomatoes

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  • [–] 18 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Or a commune in the city itself!

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  • [–] 16 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    I tried commune life, would not recommend.

    I'd suggest an RV park/tiny house neighborhood, that's the best way to get something that could meet most people's needs and might actually be stable and sustainable. And have a community garden.

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago

    I'd love to do this, I need to connect with more people.

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    If you are into this there is a cool newsletter called “Supernuclear” that you should look up

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago

    I found my people, just commune in the city for me personally

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago

    Buyer beware - farming is actually really hard work

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago

    These seem like a good idea at first. Then you realize the amount of work it takes to maintain the land. For farming you need good soil conditions, water, keep pests and weeds away. By the time you've done it all, you will have made food that has to be sold for 5x - 10x the grocery store prices or you're paying yourselves like $3 an hour. You're literally better off working a minimum wage job and buying grocery store food.

    If you aren't trying to farm and just want to do the commune thing, land maintenance is still work. Theres reasons suburbs are all paved, nature is always trying to retake whatever it can reach. I have just a few acres and I constantly fall behind on maintenance tasks. I have a career and a family, and the land keeps being the thing that falls to the lowest priority.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    Who leaked my plans?

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    As some Ontario advice. Look for an unorganized township, otherwise the cost of permits will make it unattainable.

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  • [–] 10 points 8 months ago (9 children)

    I have no idea why people romanticize the countryside. You wanna work at a farm? Go ahead without me

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  • [–] 22 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Not saying it's easy, but I think in some ways, it's quite a bit more fulfilling with the effort to payoff ratio. Plus, I assume it might work in a pleasant way if one actually has a community where people are willing to help out and do things together

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    Thats all my family wants too. I could do without all social media and connectivity. Just let me and my wife have a little farm where we make bread and I make jewelry and we can trade eggs and produce for shoes and gloves. Im really not asking for much.

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    You can buy a large plot of land by the city.

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  • [–] 10 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Can you? Because in many places areas adjacent to cities have been turned into car-centric suburbs

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago

    The wealthiest people I know live on big plots of land just outside of town. They pay less than half the property tax, have more than double the land you would in the city at the same price, and it's only a couple minute drive into the city for ammenities

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    I would love that. I have genuinely talked about that to my fellas but unfortunately we are too broke to purchase a plot of land, let alone build a house on it

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    Let’s play Wild Girls! 🐕🐩

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    I legit looked into the cost of buying up land in a city ravaged by fire. For about 1/3 of the cost of the average home there, I would have enough plots of land (with working gas, electric, water, and sewer hookups. Only getting ones with recertified hookups doubled the cost) to strong-arm the local council with ~2 people per plot. Sure, then we'd all need homes and stuff, but we can work on that. So we get all the benefits of a recognized City and address, utilities, and work done before, but at a price that would be very affordable for my part of the country.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (1 child)

    I want a plot of land but no community. thanks

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