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[–] 62 points 8 months ago (1 child)

Do not fuck nazis

They can do it themselves

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  • [–] 52 points 8 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] 41 points 8 months ago (1 child)
    1. Post "feddit.org is a zionist instance".
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  • [–] 36 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    I hope all Nazis meet with painful and humiliating ends that can, in no legal sense, be traced back to myself.

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  • [+] 27 points 8 months ago (3 children)
  • [–] 22 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Don't call everyone you disagree with Hitler, simply because they are named Adolf Hitler and were the leader of the German "Third Reich", committed genocide and started a world war. So quick with the name calling, really /s (calling things by their true name, that is)

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  • [–] 17 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Just because someone subscribes to a fascist ideology and chooses to put you and your family into a concentration camp doesn't make them a nazi. And before you raise your voice; I'd like to remind you that calling other people names is hurtful, unless you're speaking truth to power like me. So shut up, I know what's best for your kind.

    If we want a brighter future, then we all have to make sacrifices. For me that means that I have to sacrifice my ability to think critically and reflect on my own actions, and for you it means that you have to sacrifice your life. Now please stop crying and get into the mass grave. Thank you, now apologize for calling me a nazi.

    Thank you, I accept your apology.

    gunshot

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  • [–] 27 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    They're here and they're there and they're everywhere We're taught that after the war the Nazis vanished without a trace
    But battalions of fascists still dream of a master race
    The history books they tell of their defeat in forty-five
    But they all come out of the woodwork on the day the Nazi died
    They say the prisoner of Spandau was a symbol of defeat
    Whilst Hess remained imprisoned and the fascists they were beat
    So the promise of an aryan world would never materialise
    So why did they all come out of the woodwork on the day the Nazi died
    They're here and they're there and they're everywhere
    The world is riddled with maggots--the maggots are getting fat
    They're making a tasty meal of all the bosses and bureacrats
    They're taking over the board rooms and they're fat and full of pride
    And they all came out of the woodwork on the day the Nazi died
    So if you meet with these historians I'll tell you what to say
    Tell them that the Nazis never really went away
    They're out there burning houses down and peddling racist lies
    And we'll never rest again until every Nazi dies\

    Chumbawamba rocks

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  • [–] 11 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    What a banger. Also just shows how long this shit has been brewing and everyone just kinda overlooked it until now it's too late.

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  • [–] 11 points 8 months ago

    It was not overlooked, it was weaponized. Just like in Germany in the 1930's.

    The turning point was 2001. The liberals thought they could use that enemy from within and they thought they could handle the fascists, until they became the fascists. Now they are just like the fascists, but people hate them more than ever, so they directly side with them in order to not be left over when the vanilla fascists takes the power.

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  • [–] 19 points 8 months ago

    lol 12 comments on hexbear

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  • [–] 19 points 8 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] 18 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    I read that quote in mom's voice in my head. Kinda like "don't swear honey, it makes you look uncivilized." Then I wondered, is there a civilized way to call someone a nazi?

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  • [–] 18 points 8 months ago

    The ones who come out of the woodwork when you agree with the Nuremburg Trial execution verdicts will write novels.

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  • [–] 32 points 8 months ago

    This is a pro life tip.

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  • [–] 93 points 8 months ago (14 children)

    Looks like you've got four nazi's so far who are cowardly even by nazi standards downvoting you.

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  • [–] 30 points 8 months ago (12 children)

    The funny part is that votes are public, to ensure they get counted correctly during federation.

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago (10 children)
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  • [–] 26 points 8 months ago (7 children)

    Its because we block lemvotes on this server, because people don't like their votes being exposed. Every server should do this.

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  • [–] 13 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    oh, okay. It's nice that it's possible to do this.

    Every server should do this.

    I would say that's for them to decide

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  • [–] 11 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    I doubt they've asked their users if they want this spying tool to hoover up their votes.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Alright, let me ask you to clear this up for me please. I'm not a developer so I might need some simplification. This Lemvotes thing asks a Lemmy server to give up the users having voted on a particular post. For this to work I would assume the server in question must comply with this request, or store this information in a way that's accessible in the first place ?

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  • [–] 17 points 8 months ago

    You can read the full context of this here.

    Votes are transparently federated, but only shown to admins via a few special endpoints, in order to fight one of the biggest spam vectors currently on the fediverse, which is federated downvote spammers. Lemvotes is a single user server / spying tool to circumvent that reasonable expectation of user privacy.

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  • [+] -7 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    no

    votes being public is good and helps find bad actors

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 child)

    It's a UX issue. If you make votes public they should be very clearly so, the way reactions are on Facebook, LinkedIn etc, and everyone would be fine with it. What's getting people's panties in a twist is that Lemmy superficially presents itself as having anonymous voting but the logs are tucked away behind some convoluted process that you have to just know about and only seems to work about half the time.

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  • [–] 45 points 8 months ago (3 children)
  • [–] 45 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    my usual method: post “nazis give up their moral and social humanity when they choose to become nazis.”

    people reply: “aktchually dehumanizing someone is a tactic of the nazis and should not be done.”

    neat. thank for letting me know you’re a nazi. turn back and let your humanity return.

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  • [–] 14 points 8 months ago

    This is the way.

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  • [–] 28 points 8 months ago

    Now wait a minute! I like being cucked by a authoritarian dictator, who uses minority groups as scapegoats for all our current issues. So what if l wear a standardized red colored item to identify people who are not like me?

    That doesn't make me a Nazi.

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  • [–] 11 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Fuck Nazi’s and Zionists

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  • [–] 11 points 8 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] 16 points 8 months ago

    I distinctly remember calling someone out as Nazi for misogynistic comments and yet denies being one, despite literally posting Nazi like slogans. Fascists love to act in bad faith and they know it.

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  • [–] 13 points 8 months ago* (6 children)

    Not all people I disagree with are Nazis; there’s also Nazisraelis, Saudis and other Muslim autocrats, Hindu Nationalists, etc.

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  • [+] -18 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    Don't forget vegans, vegetarians, pescetarians, Jehovah's witnesses, scientologists, Xbox fans, playstation fans, Nintendo fans, train enthusiasts, aviation enthusiasts and Frank. Frank in particular Is a piece of work.

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  • [–] 15 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    train enthusiasts

    Well then name a better method of transporting a massive number of people away from a stadium without just reinventing the train.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago
    [–] 3 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    "You found the Nazis". Now what? Have a nice day.

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  • [–] 15 points 8 months ago*

    How to find reactionaries:

    1. Post "succdem nations are subsided by the global south"
    2. Watch shitlibs and eurolibs call you a "Russian bot"
    3. You found the reactionaries
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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    How to find nazis:

    Step 1: look in their Graves

    Fin

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  • [–] -4 points 8 months ago (7 children)

    There's a logic flaw in this post and that makes me feel uncertain if this is just ragebaiting or what... It certainly feels like it, and it is kinda worrisome and sad if we let this kinda shit content drive the platform usage into senseless insult throwing (I'm kinda expecting that I'll be called a Nazi for not agreeing on what this post represents, precisely my point).

    You can say "fuck Nazis" and I'd agree. Fuck them, hard with a cactus. If someone disagrees with "fuck Nazis" sure, you found the Nazi. I agree with that. If in a conversation someone is defending a Nazi ideology or some clear Nazi shit, yeah call them Nazis and anyone defending them are clearly aligned on that shit.

    But then step two of the image makes no sense.

    Watch for the "don't call people who disagree with you Nazis" comments.

    Saying fuck Nazis is not the same as calling someone who disagrees with you a Nazi. If someone would call someone a Nazi for disagreeing on some random topic, and someone says don't call them Nazis just because they don't agree with you, that doesn't make them a Nazi. There is nuance here, what was it they disagreed with? It feels like the post is just trying to give way to the fact that if you call anyone a Nazi and they disagree that makes them even more Nazi. It the same shit as accusing someone of stealing and when they deny it you answer with "that's what a thief would say". Well yeah, but it is also what a non-thief would say. So it proofs nothing.

    Can't we just agree on hating Nazis and calling a Nazi to anyone making a Nazi salute or saying Nazi shit or defending Nazi shit? Can we agree that saying "don't call people who disagree with you a nazi" doesn't immediately imply they are Nazis? It doesn't make any fucking sense, and I'd wish to see better content in Lemmy than this baity shit. Instead of this shit, post a nice image that says "fuck Nazis" with a middle finger as decoratiin, and I'm sure you will see less crap than in this post.

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  • [–] 15 points 8 months ago

    To me it's really very simple. No, not everyone we dislike or disagree with is a Nazi. However, anyone who takes offense to "Fuck Nazis" is either a Nazi or a Nazi sympathizer, which for all intents and purposes is the same thing really.

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  • [–] 24 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    It's not a flaw it's the point.

    It's meant to help show those saying be nice to nazis. That's it.

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  • [+] -8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

    I may be over thinking it, but that's not what it reads like to me. Like at all.

    The post doesn't say "anyone defending a Nazi" is a Nazi. Which sure, makes sense. I agree.

    The post says "anyone saying that you shouldn't call a Nazi to those who disagree with you means they are by extension Nazis". That assumes that calling someone a Nazi can never be wrong if they disagree with you and you are not a Nazi. Someone that is not a Nazi can disagree with someone that is not a Nazi. The post seems to try and create discord by saying that a witch hunt against Nazis is perfectly fine because Nazis are shit. And anyone against a witch hunt of Nazis means they are a Nazi. Well, I'm against all kind of witch-hunts because they are based on accusing whoever just out of hatred with very little way of fighting against it fairly.

    Or to explain my meaning in a different way. I'm against the death penalty. That means that I don't want any form of legal death penalty, even if someone is a Nazi. Does that mean now that I treat Nazis too nicely? I can see and understand that someone disagrees with me and I would disagree with someone proposing the death penalty for nazis. They can call me a Nazi then I guess? Just because I'm against the death penalty? I'm not against the death penalty to defend Nazis, I'm just against the death penalty. This post is in my opinion just shit trying to ragebait. I don't see who could benefit from it, but surely there are possible reasons for it.

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  • [–] 14 points 8 months ago

    The post doesn't say "anyone defending a Nazi" is a Nazi. Which sure, makes sense. I agree.

    It does, that's the person out of nowhere saying

    don't call those you don't like nazi

    None of this is specific to anything or anyone unless that person is disagreeing with fuck nazis.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    The post says "anyone saying that you shouldn't call a Nazi to those who disagree with you means they are by extension Nazis"

    No it doesn't say that. Maybe you're not overthinking it enough. I'll walk through the proof referring to the numbering in the post. The post is saying: "anyone is probably a Nazi(3), who's saying that you shouldn't call everyone you disagree with a Nazi(2), if they are saying it in the following special context: they are saying it, even though you didn't do that at all! Not even remotely. You simply made an obvious statement about real genuine actual Nazis in general being bad(1), but they somehow took offence to what should be the most uncontroversial statement ever(1) and came out and created a strawman to attack you for something you didn't do(2). Simply because they don't like the one thing they know about you: that you don't like Nazis(1). Now why might that be? Well probably because they are a Nazi(3). qed

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  • [+] -29 points 8 months ago (12 children)

    The real question is... is the poster trying to drive engagement, or division.

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  • [–] 36 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Division against...genocidal fucks? Uh yeah, I sure hope it does

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  • [+] -8 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    See that would be great. But it actually causes division between people who agree that the genocidal fucks should be dragged out int the street and ..... but don't agree to jumping to conclusions or over generalizations.
    The actual supporters of genecidal fucks aren't here to be divisive against.

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  • [–] [S] 41 points 8 months ago (7 children)

    I see that over at fascist.world, it's considered divisive to say fuck nazis

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  • [+] -28 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    I'm not saying it's divisive to say fuck nazis. But calling someone you know almost nothing about a nazi seems a bit extreme. Mostly because the level of willing misinterpretation on here is stupid high. I could say fuck trump, and somehow there will be people who will call me a trump supporter. It boggles the mind.

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  • [–] 48 points 8 months ago* (1 child)

    Lmao dude this was a post against unspecified hypothetical nazis, anyone who decided to get offended by it put their name to it themselves. A hit dog hollers.

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  • [+] -16 points 8 months ago

    This isn't logical, just popular.

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  • [+] -19 points 8 months ago (4 children)
  • [–] [S] 26 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Only a liberal quotes an absolute statement to claim that absolutes are bad, proving once again that their entire worldview is based on screenwriting and vibes with critical thinking nowhere to be found.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Unrelated to the topic: I never understood this, because only a fool thinks in non-absolutes

    (it is possible to find examples of how Sith were smart and brave enough to see ugly reality for what it is, but I am not that deep into Star Wars lore)

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago*

    Most of the "falling to the dark side" episodes was caused by jedis recognising the reality, they just not only weren't mentally equipped to face it, as they existed in peak of idealist thought, but the universe is also the prime example of the swerve and people on the dark side seemingly immediately kill younglings or massacre indigenous tribes or something like this, regardless of reasons they "fall".

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