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[Video] Swiss TV commentator covers Israeli war crimes during their Olympics bobsled run. Questions why they are allowed to compete. (files.catbox.moe)
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[–] 71 points 8 months ago

That was well prepared. Lots of criticism crammed into just the time of the run itself and went straight back to sports matters afterwards.

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    [–] 63 points 8 months ago

    Absolutely badass. People like this with this kind of courage will be remembered.

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    [–] 61 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    They were allowed because the Olympic Comitee is corrupt as hell and they don't really give a fuck about war crimes.

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  • [+] -13 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    There were Olympics during WWII. If you aren't cheating you can compete. It's always been this way, it's supposed to be just about the games.

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  • [–] 24 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Except as he explained in the video, Russians who support the war effort are banned as was a Ukranian who had a tribute to kia Ukranians on his helmet. It’s the double standard.

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago

    The ukrainian wasn't even banned outright. The IOC even offered a lot of concessions, he would have been allowed to wear the helmet before, during the medal ceremony, on the podium, basically everywhere except during the actual run. He disregarded all compromises.

    Russians just got banned.

    Pissraelis can do whatever.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago

    No, there is supposed to be a truce during the games. And in WWI and II there were consequences:

    The earliest Olympic bans followed World War I, when Germany, Austria, Hungary, Bulgaria, and Turkey were excluded from the 1920 Games for their roles in the conflict. Germany’s ban continued through 1924. After World War II, Germany and Japan were again barred from participating in the 1948 Olympics.

    https://www.newsweek.com/countries-banned-winter-olympics-2026-11461212

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    • [–] 7 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Link to article?

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    • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    He is the brother of comedian Alex Edelman

    Shame, I kinda liked Alex. He seemed to have been a genuinely nice person.

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    [+] -10 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    Well the question is also why russians and belorussians are allowed to compete too? They will pose as "neutral" or from other countries, despite the fact that many of them are members of russian military.

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    [–] 73 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Completely and professionally dismantles the fucker, and then ends it by basically saying, “so anyways, he placed 26th.” That whole statement was just dripping with utter disdain. Just amazing. Meanwhile, the US is literally being run by fucking Mossad at this point. I hate it here.

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    • [–] 94 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    That was hilarious. Explaining what a piece of shit the guy is for the entirety of their run while remaining calm and professional....the announcer deserves a medal

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  • [–] [S] 29 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    The only thing that would have been better is if the broadcast cut away to show footage of Gaza for most of the run, while occasionally showing the sport for contrast.

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  • [–] 11 points 8 months ago* (2 children)

    This happened on the Swiss state-run news service. Which has been biased pro-Israel.

    So there was no chance of that happening.

    I’m pleasantly surprised the commentator hasn’t been fired (yet)! It was also really amazing how they managed to stay calm and composed and just recite facts lol.

    Also the swiss right wing media has gone on a frenzy calling it anti-semetic.

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    • [–] 12 points 8 months ago

    ❤️

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    [–] 9 points 8 months ago

    Based

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    [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    The swiss broadcaster pulled the clip: https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2026/feb/17/swiss-broadcaster-pulls-olympic-commentary-questioning-presence-of-israeli-bobsledder

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    [–] 2 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Either they should ban israel and america from olympics and fifa or they should apologize to russian atheletes. Absolutely shameful double standards

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 8 months ago (2 children)

    Russia at least was originally banned not for political reasons, but because of systemic cheating among their athletes. I saw someone say that that's changed and the reason the ban continues is politics. I'm not sure. But if it was entirely about the doping, I would think that the IOC has a reasonable stance.

    But broadcasters can and absolutely should do more things like this video. Use the Olympics as an opportunity to humiliate countries and athletes like Israel and their bobsledder for their involvement in war crimes including genocide.

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    • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (8 children)

    Well, russians are also in the same bucket. Still can compete, still can demonstrate their fascist symbols

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago

    Yep. Letting the Russians and Israelis to compete is legitimising what their countries are doing.
    If a country is in a war/genocide etc, like Russia and Israel, then their athletes shouldn't be able to compete.

    However, if the athletes change nationalities then they should be able to compete for the new country. But the athletes will lose any medals or Olympic records if they change back to their original nationality.

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    Show me Russia in the 2026 Winter Olympics rn

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    [–] 31 points 8 months ago

    Fuck that was brutal. Good!

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    [–] 21 points 8 months ago

    Reuters Artilce Link about the broadcaster pulling the footage because of the commentary.

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    [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    Fuck yeah, journalism.

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  • [–] 32 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    You’re fucking on Lemmy seeing this.

    Don’t blame every instance for the moderation of shitty instances and comms.

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  • [–] 13 points 8 months ago* (3 children)

    Your comments tell me you have no clue on anything.

    Oh and:

    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2026/feb/17/swiss-broadcaster-pulls-olympic-commentary-questioning-presence-of-israeli-bobsledder

    You won’t find this on Swiss TV, you will find it on Lemmy.

    If you want politics in communities, go start your own community. Nothing is stopping you, that’s the strength of Lemmy. You’re just upset a post got removed and decided to spam everywhere instead of making a change.

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  • [–] 16 points 8 months ago*

    I am on PieFed, changing software is not the solution to your issue. You will still interact with whatever community that removed the comment on PieFed because it is a moderation issue on that individual comm/instance. PieFed syncs with all the same communities as Lemmy instances can.

    .ml has no fucking relevance to whatever I presume .world comm removed the post.

    You sound completely uninformed on how this whole Fediverse thing works and are going around blaming the wrong thing for your issue and choosing a solution that won't change anything for you.

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago (8 children)

    Very confusing take since from what I see Lemmy is absolutely saturated with unpleasant political realities

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  • [–] 13 points 8 months ago (7 children)

    No, the logic is entirely different.

    You are complaining that Lemmy removes political posts because people don't want to see unpleasant political realities. Yet this post, which is about an unpleasant political reality, has 108 upvotes, 1 downvote, and has not been removed. The post objectively and directly contradicts your claim. You're literally commenting on a Lemmy post saying "Lemmy would remove this post" - but this is clearly false.

    You are being downvoted for saying something clearly false, not because of discussing an unpleasant political reality. Your comment does not even discuss an unpleasant political reality. It discusses your opinion of how posts are handled on Lemmy.

    You are trying to claim that people downvoting your comment proves that people don't want to deal with unpleasant political realities, but that's not why people are downvoting you. The downvotes on your comment only show that people don't want to deal with objectively and demonstrably false opinions about Lemmy moderation.

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    No, you say

    "Incidentally, Lemmy would have had this comment removed by a moderator because “no politics.”

    And people actually think that’s great because they don’t want to deal with the unpleasantness of reality; they just want to be entertained - see here."

    The first sentence is false, because your comment is on Lemmy and not removed.

    The second sentence is false, because people on Lemmy do want to deal with unpleasantness, and don't just want to be entertained - as proven by the engagement in this post and many others.

    The claim "The 'no politics' rule is too arbitrary" is only hinted at in your comment - if you had instead commented this sentence initially, you probably wouldn't be downvoted as much. Although it would be a totally off-topic comment for this post. If this is what you intended to communicate, you did not communicate it well.

    So now that I know what you're trying to communicate, I can say that yes, I agree with you that "no politics" is a very arbitrary rule. However, that does not automatically make your other claims true (which we can tell by the fact that your other claims are demonstrably false).

    Is it maybe possible that you don't understand how federation works? And possibly that you're posting these comments from a non-Lemmy service, which is cross-posting to Lemmy without you realizing it? This might explain the confusion.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    No, I am saying nothing about the Olympics and its stance on political statements. I am completely uninterested in anything about the Olympics right now. I am interested only in your wrong statement, and in helping you to see how your belief is wrong.

    All of my claims pertain exactly to one specific thing: your claim that "people don't want to deal with the unpleasantness of reality, they just want to be entertained", specifically that you seem to say this is prominent on Lemmy.

    That claim, you must now admit, for the reasons I have previously explained, is wrong. Don't you agree?

    Because all over Lemmy, I see posts about unpleasant political realities. Genocide, child abuse, political murders, corruption. These are some of the most popular and discussed things on Lemmy.

    Yes, there are a few small communities where politics is forbidden, but to say that this is the general case for Lemmy is clearly inaccurate, don't you think?

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Bruh, stop taking the bait. They're either baiting rage engagement, or they're fucking dumb as hell.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Yeah I think you're probably right, I just find it good practice to keep my wits sharp to have these back and forths. But yea

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Okay, I understand what you're saying, and the funny thing is that I totally agree with you on your opinion about no politics rules. I think no politics rules are silly and too broad, too.

    So, knowing that we agree on that, let's try to be precise here, because I think you still have some misguided views. Particularly :

    "From this, I conclude that the statement “no politics in all major comms is a good thing” is a popular opinion around these parts."

    From what I can tell, you're drawing that conclusion based on one post you saw with about 300 upvotes. This is a really flawed line of reasoning. Have you ever studied statistics or cognitive biases? I would really recommend it, because both of these areas show how easily the human mind can look at one recent or mentally prominent data point and fallaciously extrapolate a too-general conclusion from it. Lemmy has many users with many contradicting views, because we are all different people. Yes, there is a group of Lemmy users that wants to see less politics. But for you to conclude from the existence of that group that it is a dominant, or even popular opinion, is a really serious logical error. In fact, it is an issue with abstraction, exactly like you said. You need to be able to conceive of the community in the abstract, not from one single concrete post before your eyes.

    Let's look at an actual sample of meaningful, multiple data points: the top posts of the last year.

    https://discuss.tchncs.de/?dataType=Post&listingType=All&sort=TopYear

    Of the 22 posts on this page, 13 (more than half) of them are political, and many of them deal with unpleasant realities. The other posts are largely about the growth of the Fediverse, which is itself a politically charged topic to most users. From this, it seems clear to me that Lemmy is generally a highly political environment that actually enjoys talking about unpleasant realities.

    I know that you had a few direct personal experiences that say otherwise, but this is why the capacity for abstraction aided by statistical thinking is so important.

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago

    I'm just trying to help you out, you have a misunderstanding that is causing you frustration, and in fact that frustration is not based in reality. It's sad to see someone be upset about Lemmy being against being political, when Lemmy is extremely in favor of being political. You do inhabit the kind of community you seek, but your cognitive bias is preventing you from seeing that, and so you are upset for no reason.

    I'll just try one more thing. If you look at the top 10 communities, https://discuss.tchncs.de/communities?listingType=All&sort=TopMonth&page=1, you'll see that only 3 of them have rules against politics. This means that of those user activity counts, 67.7% of all activity has been in communities with zero rules against politics.

    I know you want to be upset about this, and I know it's tempting to wallow in righteous indignation. You need to decide if you'd rather do that or open your eyes to the fact that you're already in a community which agrees with your stance on no politics rules. I am presenting solid reasoning with multiple data points comprising a hundred thousand users worth of activity, all you do is trot out the same post with 300 upvotes. Take a step back from your righteous indignation for a moment and consider that you may be wrong, and if you really want what you say you do, you should actually be happy at the prospect of that.

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