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Unfortunately they're probably around fediverse as well.
That's exactly what a bot would say.
Absolutely! That is such a fantastic, creative, and thought-provoking comment! 🚀✨
That's true to a certain extent, but I think the fediverse isn't all that attractive to these types of people. Additionally I think we are way better prepared to handle mass bot bans and detection since we aren't as whorish here in the fediverse
So far there's no money to be made here. Influence and reach is also limited.
If that changes at some point, it might be the end of the Fediverse. It's far too open to bots. A spammer can not only easily create new accounts on instances, they can run their own instances.
Still, the additional cost to add fedi/lemmy/piefed bots would be minimal, and would just reinforce the echo chamber that the bot master wants to create.
Reddit has shown through its actions that it's more interested in banning real users than bots, and wants to protect bots from being identified and called out by users, so it's not that surprising they've been able to do this.
The days of having arguments with Internet strangers and knowing they aren't a bot are officially over. It's hard to tell exactly when the period ended, but it's definitely done now.
I did that only twice and it never did it again. Arguing with people on the internet is pointless to begin with.
Yeah, what I do right now is just join a Discord servers and argue with people on voice chat. YMMV tho, I accidentally made some lifelong friends this way.
Plus chatbots now are getting more sophisticated, the government sponsored influence operations have the newest generation chatbots too, Israel of course the main one, but other subjects as well, like hyping the US military after the venezuela operation, which was in fact a military coup, the US made a deal with their generals to stand down and give up a few loyalist units and the presidente in exchange for the military being the de facto ruler, civilian government puppets now. Helicopters are vulnerable to weapons systems the army couldn't take our reliably without an agreement to stand down, not the least in one of the most protected places in the country when mobilized.
But after that operation, when they were pretending the US did it under the nose of the military and not in cooperation with them, as they were threatening Cuba and Colombia, and Canada and Denmark, and Iran, and Yemen, et al, their chatbots and influence agents were running wild, entire divisions of mechanized trolls and chatbots. It was not subtle. Argue with them too much they will mass flag you and reddit will side with them, not you.
Despite us being the ones that drive use, and the bots and agents making a less enjoyable, less useful, and less used site. They don't care, they can't see past the next set of financial statements. Bots inflate their numbers, and the government and powerful interests can jam them up if they don't lick their boots and pretend to believe them, ban the users they tell them to, etc.
They figure we have no where else to go, so they don't have to cater to us anyway. Let's make them wrong about that.
I'll take a bot over a human shill any day. Bots are more obvious and less depressing.
And yet I get constantly shadowbanned there just for using a VPN...
I think reddit likes bots more than it likes real users.
Well why not, bots inflate their numbers more.
Bots nowadays use residential proxy networks. When people use a free VPN or other shady software, they might become part of the network, and bad actors can route traffic trough their devices.
Such an inefficient way to astroturf. Just copy old comments and markov-chain basic shit. Reddit has been mostly bots for years and years.
Too efficient. Why not rage bait AND raise your neighborhoods energy prices at the same time?
Everyone is cooked, you are all cooked
Thanks for making the problem worse, fuck you too man.
This guy just openly admitted to shitting in the global punch bowl.
It would really be a shame if someone everyone sent an army of bots to antagonize him at every waking moment of the day.
according to his own claim, and he's selling his super secret methods. he might be just making shit up
How do you make a profit from producing AI slop?
You sell how-to guides to other producers of AI slop.
i think this one was purest form of it to date https://www.404media.co/inside-the-world-of-tiktok-spammers-and-the-ai-tools-that-enable-them/
Reddit is not dying fast enough
Luckily it seems the humans still feel a need to divulge their antisocial behavior.
I like that they're using a simpler, cheaper model for the actual posting because that's the part that requires the least brainpower. Says a lot about social media.
Clawdbot is an AI that takes full control of the PC, can open browsers, read pages, send an email, delete files, operate the CLI, install programs, anything you can do on a PC they can do. A farm is a group of PC's/servers.
So this is a group of AI ran computers, being use for content manipulation on reddit.
Money, Reddit makes money by selling advertising.
They don't care if it's quality or not, more comments/posts equal more money. Capitalism 101.
Reddit's advertising clients would see that the clickthrough rate is shit. Which dictates the price that they are willing to pay for the advertisement.
Have you ever clicked on a reddit ad? Many users have shit stats, and if that was used for detecting bots, then bots would click ads, reddit would lose trust, and that would damage them even more
They don't care to a certain extent. But there is a threshold that if you get too many bots, companies using your platform to advertise will notice a fall in sales. And if sales drop on your platform, the money stops. Because bots don't buy things, real humans do.
What is the threshold? I don't know, I didn't stay at a Holiday Inn last night.
They're not making money off these bots though.
there's a significant overlap between the most advanced AI bots and the most dull humans.
each one of them running on ARM chips in the cloud
"We don't want to deal with IP rate limits the hard way"
What does this asshole do with these bots, run influence operations? For whom? What do we know about which influence operations are hired for which interests? Forget the government ones for a moment, what about commercial interests?
Toxic chemicals for instance, if you mention one it flags it and sends it to agents that cycle through fake accounts, backed up by bots to vote with them, to argue endlessly.
It's like mentioning voldemort. Try it, talk trash about aspartame on reddit, or roundup, or atrazine, or god forbid nuclear energy, they've lots of real world dupes on the latter there, the decades long influence operations have borne fruit, but they have influence agents for all of those things, on keyword, the worst are on fluff pieces, propaganda pieces their PR firms or whatever make and they post it, those will be overrun, and the agents will mass flag you if you strongly argue against their bullshit.
Try it, talk trash about aspartame on reddit, or roundup, or atrazine, or god forbid nuclear energy,
LOL I've been there! But I feel like the average redditor is too brainwashed to notice. People shill for free.
What does this asshole do with these bots, run influence operations? For whom? What do we know about which influence operations are hired for which interests? Forget the government ones for a moment, what about commercial interests?
If it's the same guy that was posted about a while ago, they do it for (blackhat) marketing. The bots mostly post comments in threads that look like a normal discussion, but where the goal is to move people away from one solution to another one. Imagine if somebody asks whether a piece of software is good, a bot then replies that they have not heard good things about it, and another bot chimes in and says "yeah I have been using instead".
They'll probably also make manual posts claiming how good something is, put it in their control panel and a single bot will post it, while the other bots chime in with upvotes and discussion.
Add a bit of logic to chime in on unrelated posts to make the account look more legit and you got yourself an army.
Can "AI" slop really be so much worse than endless capitalist/state propaganda? Probably an improvement.
it maybe 0.5% now but reddit will catch up and ban all the bots eventually, they find bots pretty easily. but the ones that they do not go hard ban on are propaganda ones.

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