I've been wondering for a while now if I might have that gene or whether Cilantro is just a herb i dislike. I can stomach dishes with cilantro in them, but it just stings through everything. No matter how little was put in, it tastes to me like somebody over-cilantro'd the dish. I've never eaten anything where I thought "Mmmh, yes, there's a subtle hint of cilantro" - it's always "Oh, there's the cilantro, and it's just too strong".

But whenever I read about this online, people say that it tastes like soap. It's been a couple of years since I was toddler enough to just put soap in my mouth. But in my mind, the taste of soap is mostly bitter, with an overwhelming tropical/fruity/citrussy flavor of whatever the producers decided to make the soap smell like. I also imagine it having a really unpleasant texture/mouthfeel. I have no urge to try eating soap, just so I can compare it with the taste of a herb. And I assume that most people with the Cilantro-gene also haven't made an actual taste-comparison. So hence my question: In what way does anything - but cilantro in particular - taste like soap?

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[–] 90 points 8 months ago (24 children)

It tastes like drinking water from a glass that has been cleaned with dish soap but not rinsed properly and you can taste the residue and distinct smell/taste of soap. I used to have this response as a child but later as an adult the taste completely changed and now I can taste its real flavour.

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  • [–] 20 points 8 months ago (14 children)

    I had no idea it could change over time, that's really cool. Makes me wonder what other genetic factors can change like that.

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  • [–] 17 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    A lot. Genes have a weird ability to activate or deactivate, or simply have a different effect, based on environmental factors.

    Look up "Epigenetics".

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    many tastes change over time. certain foods are really sharp to children in unpleasant ways, but to an adult they are more mellow and nuanced.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (8 children)

    I couldn’t eat something that had come near cilantro until I was in my 20s. But I was intentional about it. I love Mexican food, but really couldn’t eat it at restaurants because of this so I decided I was going to try an experiment.

    I would make a small amount of food at home with a little bit of cilantro and as I cut it up I would inhale deeply and tell myself out loud “this smells delicious. I love this.”

    Then I would eat the prepared food and do the same. I did this once a week or so for a few months and eventually the soap taste disappeared. It tastes like delightful fresh herbs now.

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  • [+] -10 points 8 months ago (7 children)

    See, yes. This is what adults do.

    Being grown and refusing to eat something that millions of humans eat every day is, frankly, embarrassing. When I meet any otherwise neurotypical picky eater over the age of 13, all I can think of is, “Christ, grow the fuck up.”

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    When I met am otherwise neurological adult who gets hung up on what others choose to do with their free will, all I can think is "grow the fuck up"

    I've got a cousin who gets upset about what I choose to eat. I don't even understand where someone like that is coming from.

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  • [–] -5 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    It's probably less about what you choose to eat and more about the fact that picky eaters are, in a larger sense (and without exception) some combination of childish, incurious, self-absorbed, inflexible, and boring.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    The flavor to your immature taste buds wasn't real?

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    There is the thing as it exists and then the thing as I perceive it. I’d say I’m tasting the more accurate version of it today but it probably is still debatable.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago

    What something tastes like is part of your perception of it though. It's an interaction that is based as much on the tongue doing the tasting as the substance being tasted.

    I don't think either way you tasted it was more "real" or "accurate", but could be closer to what the majority of people experience.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago* (5 children)

    I experience the soap taste, not with cilantro but with certain beers. There’s a local brewery I go to that makes a certain beer that tastes like soap for me, like the smell(?) / aftertaste of a wax candle. It happens every time. And when I order a different beer, it’s gone. It’s not the glass. Drives me crazy not knowing what the heck it is lol. A genetic quirk I guess. Always a light colored beer, never dark. My partner thinks it’s some of the yeast notes.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

    My one that I share with my mom is that jalapeños taste like mold. I don't get it with other kinds of peppers, and vinegar will mask it so pickled jalapeño or hot sauces with it are usually okay. But it's always just a bit there.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago

    I have a really weird one where shandy (beer mixed with lemonade) smells like rubber to me. Like when you rub a balloon really hard.

    You guys can smell balloons being rubbed, right? 😅

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  • [–] 59 points 8 months ago

    It doesn't always taste like soap to me. But when it does, it literally tastes like the lather/residue from unscented bar soap. Like if you wash your hands but don't thoroughly rinse them, then eat finger food. It's a basic (as opposed to acidic) flavor, that really doesn't taste like anything other than soap.

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  • [–] 16 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    I can’t answer your question, because it doesn’t taste like soap to me either. Just as you described, it tastes overwhelmingly strong and unpleasant to me, so I assume I have the gene. I do think sometimes it tastes appropriate buried in amongst other flavors though.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago

    I mean, there can be multiple different gene variations. I have the soap thing and I can't remember tasting anything other than soap, although admittedly I haven't tried cilantro in isolation or in enough dishes to be able to tell for sure.

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  • [–] 13 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    This is why I only have cilantro flavoured soap

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    That would be a great scam. Just offer unparfumed soap and some of your customers will never know.

    I mean, those customers would also be entirely unlikely to want anything with cilantro in it, but you know, I'm sure there's someone you could fool.

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  • [–] 11 points 8 months ago (9 children)

    Only partially related, why does no one talk about what it tastes like when you don't have the gene? Nobody told me it's like spicy mint! I was expecting something mild like basil or something. But no, it's overpowering.

    I had the chance to try it for the first time a few months ago when I discovered a local restaurant sells Bahi Mi with cilantro and pickled carrots. Its delicious, but I was not expecting that flavor.

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  • [–] 11 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    To my taste, it's extremely fresh and vegetal. Kind of in a similar way to how lime, cucumber, or jalapeno are.

    I'm a bit puzzled by both the spicy and mint comparisons you make.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago

    I think lime, cucumber and jalapeño is a pretty good descriptor. Lime and cucumber just taste a lot like mint to me.

    Fresh is also a good description. It makes my mouth feel clean just like mint does.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    I think, people are largely not aware that genetic differences can affect the taste so much, so they just assume that everyone experiences the same taste, just with different preferences for different tastes.

    But yeah, when I learned that cumin is another candidate for genetic differences in taste perception, I also had to ask a friend to describe the taste, because I've never seen the taste described anywhere. For me, it just tastes extremely hollow, while it's apparently a rather rich taste for other folks...

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    The taste of a spice like cumin will be highly dependent on the age of the seed and if it is ground or not. Ground spices oxidize quickly and lose a lot of volatile compounds which contribute to their depth. To taste cumin properly, it is best to lightly toast whole cumin seeds and then crush/ grind them. The difference between the store bought ground cumin is night and day.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (2 children)

    I'm not saying, that the taste isn't strong enough for me. I'm saying that it actively adds a taste, which I can best describe as "hollow". Falafel or hummus with cumin tastes worse to me than without...

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  • [–] 11 points 8 months ago

    Palmolive. That's what it tasted like to me when I went looking for it.

    I once ate a handful of cilantro to see if I could taste it, and I could, a little bit. Then I swore not to do that again because normally, I love cilantro.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (7 children)

    Reminds me of my own issue with parmesan cheese in things; I taste a vomit smell and just a little will make it bad to intolerable. I followed a recipe that added a sprinkle to a large pot of soup and to be the whole thing just tasted like vomit soup. My wife didn't notice at all. I think I'm sensitive to butyric acid, the shared factor between the two.

    I'll use your stink bug example in the future when cilantro comes up, though, especially since so many people I know love cilantro and can't imagine (and to be fair it's very good without said gene, lol)

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    You must hate Hershey's chocolate

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    Whoa! Is that why I hate Hershey's? I don't mind their dark but the milk one is awful lol

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago

    When I was younger and didn’t know what cilantro was, I couldn’t understand why no one in my family agreed with me that stink bugs smelled like, “some kind of herb.”

    When I finally figured out what cilantro was and why I didn’t like it, I went digging into stink bug stink and realized precisely why.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    Pro tip: You've probably already noticed that "please no cilantro" will fall on deaf ears when placing an order at most restaurants. "I have an allergy to cilantro - please make sure there's none in my food." will get you MUCH better results.

    Please don’t do this.

    It makes servers and cooks feel like customers are lying to them when someone tells them they have an allergy. So when some little kid with a life-threatening nut allergy comes in, they might not get taken seriously.

    The other issue is that with an allergy (vs a food preference) many kitchens are required to use completely different pots and pans and utensils, gumming up the line, because even a speck of an allergen can cause serious harm.

    I can’t stand cilantro either and I’m agreeing that it sucks when restaurants ignore you and should send the food back each time. Just please don’t make it harder for people with life-threatening allergies.

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  • [+] 1 point 8 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (1 child)

    Listen, you seem like a reasonable person and have some kind of medical-sounding username, so I will re-emphasize this: it’s a medical issue. Little kids (and even grown adults) with severe food allergies have a big struggle in getting taken seriously. I have had to take two separate people to the ER for anaphylaxis from food allergies, both seemed so minor and both turned out to have been life-threatening. One was a toddler.

    You can make a small positive difference in their lives by inconveniencing yourself here.

    I agree that it’s the fault of the restaurant and not yours that it’s like this, and I agree that they should be more vigilant with all allergies.

    But unintended victims of crying wolf isn’t so much you or the restaurant workers, it’s allergic people who might die.

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago

    It doesn't taste soapy to me, but more like bug spray that I accidentally got in my mouth as a kid. Weirdly chemically

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    As a kid, my mother actually did the completely stupid cliche of "washing your mouth out with soap" when I said a "bad word", so I know exactly what soap tastes like (this being cheap bar soap like Irish Spring, Zest, etc). And cilantro really does taste pretty close to that to me.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    Irish spring for me. It got in and around my molars and I tasted that for hours.

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    While we're at it, wtf do ants smell like?

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  • Take the smell of dawn dish soap diluted into water. That's what it tastes like.

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago

    I don't know about the gene, and I do like cilantro. However there are times when I can understand how it tastes soapy to people. It does have a bitterness to it, and combined with its very aromatic nature, it reminds me of soap at times.

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago

    It's been a couple of years since I was toddler enough to just put soap in my mouth.

    I can't believe how literate OP is for only being 4 years old!

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago

    It is a chemical aftertaste. Like a weak soap or maybe even an unscented air freshener. I can eat the food if there isn't much cilantro in it.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago

    Keep in mind, just because it doesn't taste like soap to you, doesn't mean you should like it. People have their own unique tastes. I, for instance, don't like most fish, and think that describing a thing as what it is - means it's bad - is a weird thing: "this fish is fishy" = gross. "This chicken is chickeny" = delicious.

    All that said, you just don't like cilantro, that's fine. My wife doesn't like strawberries. I can't understand it, but I accept it.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago

    Soap tastes like cilantro on account of the simple fact that cilantro existed first. Not the other way around. If you're going to eat soap some people say it tastes like cilantro.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    On a related note, I love olive oil but hate olives, because anytime a dish has olives at all, it tastes like there's too many olives. It's like the olive takes away the taste from the other ingredients and replaces everything with olive taste.

    Cilantro tastes fine to me though.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    Hmm, is that olive thing not a universal experience? I always figure the cooks are just too lazy to cut up the olives, which would help a lot.

    Well, and what also helps is to combine the olives with lots of different veggies. Don't just serve an olive-tomato salad, but rather throw in cucumber, bell pepper and garlic as well, along with maybe some beans, a bit of rosemary and thyme.

    I guess, the cooks have a hearty salad like that in mind, but then start bargaining whether they could leave out one or two veggies.
    And then they never figure out that, no, they cannot. You need a rich base flavour to compete with the olives, but then you want it to be light to balance out how heavy the olives are. Well, and a surefire way to get rich+light is just lots of different veggies.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago

    I’ve never tasted soap, so I don’t know that that’s the taste I get, but it’s nasty and ruins whatever I’m eating. I won’t even walk in a Chipotle. Jerks. One thing I’ve noticed over the years is the stems are the worst part. Something that’s cooked with cilantro or has the occasional leaf is okay, but one bite of a stem and I’m done.

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  • [–] 11 points 8 months ago

    Minute food does a good job explaining it, IMO. https://youtu.be/RZtPynXsFas

    To me, it's not exactly soap but it's damn close. Like 90% of soap. Idk what else to tell you, it just does.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Imagine if you will, that prior to cooking someone hand scrubbed all the pots/pans that were going to use. But they didn't rinse them properly so there was still soap residue all over them. And then they cooked with them.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Imagine someone loaded the dish with wintergreen bubble gum.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago

    I equate it more to a strong perfume than soap. When I eat cilantro it just fills the back of my nose with that overwhelming floral perfume smell (feel?).

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 child)

    I do think there's something strange with how you taste it. My partner and I both love cilantro and will eat it in abundance, no issue.

    Fwiw, I have a weird taste sensitivity to all seafood. I can sense the tiniest amount of seafood in a dish because it ruins the whole thing. I've learned that most people don't taste seafood like that, so something like fish oil in kimchi doesn't taste like you licked a room temperature anchovy.

    Eating a piece of cilantro while I type this. To me, it starts with a fresh but subtle flavor that then intensifies until it feels like looking directly at a light, then it dies down with the aftertaste of grass clippings

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    I have that version of the gene according to 23 and Me. Note that every human has that gene, but there are slight variations in its sequence (that’s how genes work, common variants are called alleles).
    All I knew was that I hated food from Mexican food trucks and restaurants. As many other people in this thread mentioned, the food sometimes tasted like dirty water in the dishwasher, or like a dish sponge. Like soap, mold, overall a dirty and disgusting muddled mess, not a specific taste. I didn’t think the taste was coming from cilantro, I thought the food was prepared with dirty equipment and spoiled ingredients.
    I moved from Europe to California as an adult, and I was eating cilantro regularly, including on street tacos from food trucks, and liked the taste. The whole thing only clicked later: when cilantro is mixed in a sauce, like in the guacamole in some burritos, that’s disgusting. I also don’t like chimichurri. Freshly chopped cilantro is delicious.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    It tastes like metal to me - not soap

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    For me, it tastes like a stink bug had farted in my generel direction. same scent, not that intense.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago

    I hate cilantro and other things like horseradish and wasabi but like I love jalepeno and popeye spicy chicken so its not just a heat thing. Anyway for me cilantro tastes like dirt and horseradish/wasabi just has this nasty taste. Funny thing is cilantro has become so popular I have developed a kind of resistance to it. Like I can eat something with cilantro but it will bring it down. I used to take one bite of something with cilantro and had to find something to get the taste out of my mouth. A really funny thing was I sepent a massive amount of time thinking I hated avocado because I only incountered it in guacomole which as far as I can tell always has cilantro. Man when I had just some avocado on something I was like. holy fuckin trump, this is awesome.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago

    Coffee tastes exactly like hot wet loam to me. I detested the flavor.

    I'm a grown ass man, and I fucking hate coffee.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    I hate cilantro but I'm unsure if I have the supposed "cilantro tastes like soap gene". To me, it just feels like chunks of cardboard or plastic in my food that shouldn't be there. I tried it two or three times then stopped using it in my cooking. However, I like storebought salsa that contains cilantro so apparently I don't mind it if it's cut into really tiny pieces

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    It doesn't taste like soap, it tastes like Satan's dingle berries

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