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[–] 140 points 9 months ago (19 children)

I owe this women an apology. She was completely right and reacting appropriately.

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  • [–] 94 points 9 months ago (7 children)

    A lot of people owe that poor woman an apology.

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  • [–] 30 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    The hate she gets is wild. I don't always find her comics funny, but the absolute vitriol she gets is wild over on Reddit.

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  • [–] 35 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    ... I don't think the person fizz is talking about is Pizzacake. if you look at the source view on his post, it's the woman screaming during trump's first inauguration/announcement of election results

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Oh, I don't see anything but text in Fizz' post and don't know what source view means.

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago* (2 children)

    clicking the button shown what they typed out to get what their post is; this way you can learn markup to make similar formatting.

    sometimes images don't load, so you can use the same tool to get the URL of the image they are sharing

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  • [–] 34 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    Who is this woman? I’m not familiar with the reference.

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  • [–] 55 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Someone who was filmed screaming and crying during the announcement (maybe inauguration, can't remember which now) of the 45th president of the US

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  • [–] 67 points 9 months ago (3 children)
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    Funny that the one thing all three scenarios have in common is: “misled people that vote”. I wanted to write “dumb and ignorant people voting” but I wanted to be generous

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago

    The big part is also well-meaning people not voting. There are more of those well-meaning people by volume, and they could've easily prevented all that, but they for one reason or another decided not to do that

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  • [–] 39 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Also they laid it all out in project 2025. It's not like they tried to hide it other than trumps usual "I've never heard of it". And if you believe anything that shithead says.. well this is what happens

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  • [–] 74 points 9 months ago (14 children)

    I had someone here on lemmy literally tell me that history doesn’t matter and we shouldn’t pay attention to it. The ignorance was fucking astounding.

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  • [–] 23 points 9 months ago* (10 children)

    Years ago someone told me on reddit that antivirus protections on personal PCs aren't necessary and a waste of processing power.

    Can't really reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into.

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  • [–] 19 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Were they arguing that extra antivirus wasn’t necessary? Cause windows built in has been better than alternatives for years now (well, idk about 11, but 7, 8, and 10 all had good antivirus).

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    It's been long enough I don't think I could faithfully remember the details of their argument. I think they were insisting that no AV was needed at all though, not that Windows' built in protections are sufficient, which has indeed been true for a while.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    That could have been me... I once had a virus in the 90s. I didn't know I had it until I took a floppy into the university to print something, and it alerted me. So I installed McAfee, it found and took care of this virus. Then a month later my PC wouldn't boot. Long story short, I had to remove McAfee to fix it. The experience stuck with me- antivirus has caused me more problems than any virus ever did. I have lived dangerously ever since. (Though before I run anything even slightly questionable, I will fire up a disposable VM)

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    Unfortunately a lot of AV “solutions” on Windows are proprietary which makes it a no for me.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Are there any open source av programs, and any that don't cost money?

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  • [–] 27 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Being a leftist means being right too soon...

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Fun fact: After WWII, people who had recognized the danger of fascism and opposed it from the start (such as Americans who fought in the Spanish Civil War) were often termed "premature antifascists" and regarded with suspicion and passed over for promotion in the military because of the possibility of having communist sympathies.

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  • [–] 51 points 9 months ago

    As an autistic person who has a great skill of finding similarities between two things, you can see a lot of parallels between our modern world and 1940s Germany.

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  • [–] 22 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Anybody with the slightest Critical Thinking Skills knew how bad this would get, way back in 2015.

    I knew who this hump was back in the 80s, and could have told you what a disaster he'd be as president back then, and would have been 75% correct, with only a 25% underestimation of how bad it would actually be.

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  • [–] 42 points 9 months ago* (5 children)

    Basically what I think of Simpsons "predictions".

    Matt Groening isn't some kind of clairvoyant. He just knows history and recognizes patterns.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Which prediction exactly? The one about the current president becoming president, their writer was interviewed about, and he said they just chose him to symbolize the US hitting rock bottom. As they were smart and informed and therefore realized the then real estate mogul was a crooked lying cheater, that lied to steal and then slandered his victims to justify it, that was in bed with organized crime. I don't know if they knew that he was a career blackmailer, and also being blackmailed by Israel and their Epstein, and the Russians at a minimum though.

    But the prediction isn't all that clairvoyant, because in their version the president just bankrupted us and then we elected Lisa, which would be a best case scenario as Lisa is a good person. While the president's party here will bankrupt the country, they are fixing elections, something the show didn't see, or put in the episode.

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  • [–] 41 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    The left will never get the credit for being right all along.

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  • [–] 31 points 9 months ago (26 children)

    It goes back further than that.

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  • [–] 26 points 9 months ago* (25 children)

    this current arc starts with 9/11.

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  • [–] 23 points 9 months ago (14 children)

    Disagree. This is the result of decades more bullshit from other american presidents, political figures, and 3 lettered organizations ran by ghoulish wastes of skin. There have been many famous people who have been outspoken about this shit in that time too. 9/11 and America’s batshit insane reaction to it was just more of the same dumb bullshit the rest of the world has come to expect from it’s governments and citizenry.

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  • [–] -4 points 9 months ago (13 children)

    I posted 6 words. you somehow didn't read half of them.

    And to be honest, @Serinus@lemmy.world is probably right, since I was thinking of the broader surveillance world etc, not the current offensive by Russia against the world.

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  • [+] -10 points 9 months ago (12 children)

    It's funny. We're awash in terrible things happening in and from America, but that isn't enough for the tankies. It's almost like they have an agenda.

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago (11 children)

    We’re awash in terrible things happening in and from America, but that isn’t enough for the tankies.

    not sure I follow what this means

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  • [+] -6 points 9 months ago (10 children)

    America is doing terrible things at home and abroad, but that isn't enough for the tankies. They need us to have always been like this.

    We haven't. This is the first time we've had a president that wasn't at least trying to do the right thing by his people, no matter how misguided.

    I think even Reagan fully bought into the trickle down bullshit and thought he was doing the right thing for America and Americans by paving the way for corporate oligarchy.

    I think W (from his perspective at the time) justified our invasion of Iraq with both liberating the people and reducing our reliance on Israel and Saudi Arabia.

    The orange tyrant doesn't give that much of a fuck. He doesn't need to have anything sold to him other than his own name.

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago*

    You're so preoccupied with your knee jerk anticommunism that you're doing revisionist, apologist history for the Reagan administration. Was Reagan doing what he thought was the best for the people when participating in the Iran Contra affair? Come on, the US is a country that has always operated to secure its own imperialist hegemony since it became a global super power. Every single government since the start of the Cold War has operated to do that by any means necessary, even committing genocide and propping up fascist regimes worldwide.

    You mean the people who kept threatening people with nukes? The people who proliferated atomic weapons giga? The ones who did 56 military interventions (old figure btw, doesn't include Venezuela, for example) in South America post WW2? The one that proliferated military bases all across the world? The Bay of Pigs people? The ones that invaded Vietnam because they were bored? The people who made North Korea the most bombed place ever? Coup in Guatemala so that bananas were cheap? The people who would rather destroy civilization than coexist with the USSR? You're saying that system worked relatively well? I'm saying that they were barbaric up to and through current events.

    From @WhatDoYouMeanPodcast@hexbear.net

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago

    America is doing terrible things at home and abroad, but that isn’t enough for the tankies. They need us to have always been like this.

    We haven’t. This is the first time we’ve had a president that wasn’t at least trying to do the right thing by his people, no matter how misguided.

    I see. I agree that Trump is different to the ones that came before (except Andrew Jackson) , and I agree that the tankies are trying to claim it's been like this, but this kind of shit has been pretty common in US history. And so has the opposite. Sometimes administrations are tainted by the populus or take wrong turns in otherwise good administrations, but there's usually some bullshit somewhere. Even people like FDR have things they fucked up.

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  • [+] -7 points 9 months ago* (5 children)

    Tankies stop at the system is fucked. It can't be improved according to them, tear it down and build a new thing. Obviously that won't happen and if we tried it would animal farm into something worse right off. And just isn't true, the system here worked relatively well after the second world war. Never perfect, but with controls on the system and governed by mostly reason, we did make the most prosperous working class the world has every seen by a large margin. Now gone, chiseled away by the CPI having been understated for half a century averaging 2-3 percent a year just by 2008 under the new measures, while it was 5-8 percent under the old.

    That was not a good faith change, it was done to steal from working people at every level and stage, and give to investors, and no one questions it even still, as the ivy league suits tell us our buying power has never been higher, when that clearly isn't true.

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    The post war economy created the most prosperous working class in history but at whose expense?

    The entire post-war period is littered with the US toppling third world anti-imperial movements for the sake of bolstering its position in the world/gaining economic advantage. It’s a farce. It was unsustainable. It required the slaughter of countless people to hold up that US economy. And that’s not even getting to the modern imperialist project held up by the IMF, forcing disadvantaged nations to essentially fully give themselves over to American corporations with no material gain on their part.

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    All that cold war bullshit had nothing to do with the high standard of living working people TOOK from the ruling class in the Great Depression, when they had some real leadership in FDR's New Deal, and Unions.

    All the subjugating other peoples had nothing to do with the high standard of living. Korea, vietnam, and so forth to all of latin america. None of that helped working people, imperialist wars never help working people's situation. Unions, and good leaders got those gains. They put 90% taxes on the rich at obscene levels to discourage the rich taking more than their share, etc.

    And that is what is missing now, organization, we need unions, but not just around where we work, we need to be organized otherwise, I think innumerable groups federated together on general forums, to cooperate on what they agree on, like not getting fucked by the super rich without consent. From that forum, where we can organize around issues, cooperate on what we agree on, both privately and publicly, we could find and groom real leaders to take government from these parasites that now control it. We are stronger than they are, we just need to unite.

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    It's easy to say "Oh, I wish we had unions like we did back in the day." But we had unions back in the day and they didn't stop things from turning out the way they did. What we need is a sober analysis of the class dynamics and why things went awry, and what we can do differently going forward.

    The government in the postwar era used a carrot and a stick to root out communists. The stick was McCarthyism, but the carrot was the fact that the government was willing to cooperate with unions provided they showed a willingness to purge communists, like the AFL/CIO did.

    The decision of unions to cooperate with that is a major reason why everything has gone to hell. In the short term, sure, they got to enjoy a higher standard of living. But all the while, the ruling class was building power through imperialism and anticommunism. At a certain point, they were simply powerful enough that they no longer needed the unions' cooperation at all, and so they betrayed and dumped them, in the Carter/Reagan era. The only thing that could've stopped that shift would have been if the unions had stood together in solidarity, for example in a general strike. But "standing in solidarity in recognition of a common class interest" is the sort of thing that commies do.

    Decades of riding high on the promises of the New Deal era transformed unions to become almost entirely self-interest, with no solidarity even with other domestic workers, much less with the global south. And of course, all of this is a very white perspective on things. The offer to get a high standard of living in exchange for ratting out commies was never really extended to minority groups. And again, confronting racism and using your voice and position to blah blah, again, commie shit.

    "You give up all ideals, all solidarity, all high minded ideals of justice and equality, and kick out the people who won't, and we'll give you some real nice benefits. And who cares if we get to secure our position in a generation or two, you'll have retired by then anyway." This is the foundation of the "left" anticommunism that won out in the West. Of course, now, that offer has been rescinded, because the ruling class already got what they wanted. And yet, we still have plenty of people who love punching left at communists for no real reason. They're not even offering a reward for it anymore! But whether because of force of habit or indoctrination or whatever brainworms, people are still throwing around "tankie" the way they used to throw around "pinko" or "red."

    If we manage to rebuild unions, we need to ensure that they do not become compromised by narrow self-interest like they did before. We have the ability to build them from the ground up with the correct approach, but it's only through recognizing the mistakes of the past that we have the opportunity to correct them.

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago

    Part of the problem, in 1971 the Business Roundtable huddled up a group of the most powerful companies and they agreed to cooperate on a long game to kill liberal democracy, to subordinate the government into their creature, and take away the benefits of the new deal and great society, and lower our standards of living, (even though our high wages is why they are so rich as there are people to buy their goods, when poor there are less goods bought and everyone is poorer,) and one of the many things they agreed on, was killing all rival power sources. Of the things they did, was infect the Unions with Organized Crime, on top of all of the other attacks. Meanwhile they co-opted law enforcement further and turned the country into a police state on The Fear of the Other, in the crime waves that started in the 70's and got bad in the 80s, that they helped along. This police state was also put on the Unions that organized crime gave them more cause to target, and hurt the reputations of unions everywhere.

    But more than that they got these Ivy League types to lead every agency, business, group, and unions were no exception. The got aristocrats in charge of them and everything else, aristocrats that were hostile to the union and working peoples' interests. As if union bosses should be paid like CEO's in the first place.

    But just business cooperating on these things, while dividing the opposition, it started a slow rot. As we know there was plenty of rot before this point, but this concerted effort by the business was enough to kill the unions, and start the fall of everything that was good and decent. Worth mentioning is in appointing their ivy league aligned hacks to lead everything, including schools and regulators, they changed the CPI, the inflation number everything is based off of. They changed the measure several times to understate it. The new inflation was 2-3 average, the old averaged 5-8 just by 2008 from the 70s.

    We take a pay cut every year, ignorant and trusting, none of the politicians mention it, no academics hardly mention it, we all collectively ignore it, we ignore that by 2008 under the old unchanged standard, social security checks would be worth on average 1,300 more A Month. And experiences of people backs it up. A social security check, or any paycheck, used to pay for life, it was noticeably not paying so well buy the 80's into the 90s. It's a pittance now.

    Organization has been the key to all of their success. They are organized, we aren't. We are stronger, but played. I see us getting played all the time, with leadership we could overcome that, turn the tables on them.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (7 children)

    Eh, that was a different, tangential thing. This arc started in 2015 when Russia figured out how to manipulate social media while absolutely no one was guarding against it.

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  • [–] 11 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    I'd say it goes all the way back to Reagan and almost every single policy he had that weakened the absolute fuck out of average US citizens, while allowing the influence of the rich to grow to insane levels.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Somewhere in the middle.

    It was salvageable up until House and Senate leaders like Gingrich, Ryan and later O’Connell started playing identity and obstacle politics with Democrat presidents in particular. Around 2010 it really accelerated.

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago* (2 children)

    Based on what you're saying

    tin foil hat applied

    It was accelerated by OBAMA!!!!

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  • [–] 15 points 9 months ago

    Reminds me of an all time classic Onion article.

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  • [–] 19 points 9 months ago (13 children)

    If I'm being honest, the first term was quite underwhelming compared to how bad it could be (as 2025+ has proved).

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  • [–] 25 points 9 months ago (7 children)

    Did you forget all the COVID anti-mask and anti-distancing insanity? The still-not-fully-understood blatant theft and corruption around the PPP “loan” program that pilfered so much money it inflated the US Dollar at unprecedented rates? The intentional separation of children from parents by force?

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    The PPP was just part of the bailouts as well. They did direct cash infusions into the richest companies, and the Fed did a lot to make sure the rich didn't lose any money, and in effect shoveled trillions of dollars to the richest.

    The PPP was forgiven to big corporations that got the money then fired workers anyway, while small employers that kept people on after getting the money, as was the point of the program ostensibly, were forced to pay it back later.

    The Democrats are fucking worthless I'm afraid I've to throw in there. Can't even make hay out of this, or change an unjust system, when they are hated and have to win.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (1 child)

    Were we talking about Democrats? Or did you just need to bring them up because you can't abide a discussion that doesn't criticize them as well?

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago

    You can't escape it, if you give the establishment a pass and allow them to stay in control of the party we lose. Unless you are pretending to be one of us and helping fascists to overthrow the Republic in all but name in favor of putting the worst people in permanent control of the country, you need to face that fact.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    I think being in a sane state kind of mitigated that COVID issue for me, but I agree on the PPP loan theft (immigration stuff was always bad, although I guess not children in cages bad). My point was, compared to this term, he was actually held back a bit.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago* (2 children)

    Democrats can't say shit about Trump's covid response after fully adopting the playbook themselves once they were in power

    If anything they were worse because they turned it into a bipartisan consensus on reality and made all the 'normal' people take their masks off.

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    If the public isn't on board with something, it'll cost the ruling party dearly. This wasn't like 1918 where the public wanted to help each other by limiting the spread of the disease. This was rugged individualism, "you can't tell me what to do." Dems were honestly smart to get on board or a red wave would have wiped them out.

    When we want to change things like this, we have to change the norm in advance, not reactively.

    BTW epidemiologists I used to work with at the CDC have long said "the big one is coming" and after Covid, many of them said "this wasn't the big one," so we still need to change that norm, but like climate change and a dozen other pressing crises, we can't deal with it because fascism.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago*

    A complete inversion of reality. Democrats actively manufactured consent for the 'end' of the pandemic. They were pushing for a return to school before the vaccine was even out. The moment covid was their responsibility instead of a cudgel with which they could barely win the election, they started adopting the exact same language they were criticizing. Minus of course the meme shit like horse paste and bleach.

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  • [–] 14 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    He didn’t surround himself with literally zombies who only say yes to him during his first term. Them turning on him when he wanted to overrule the election results showed that. He doesn’t know how government works and thought everyone should treat him like a king from the beginning and had a rude awakening that was term 1. Now he knows and thus, utter destruction.

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  • [–] 9 points 9 months ago

    Well, to be fair, being able to read is quickly becoming indistinguishable from the arcane arts in America.

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