Fuck. I haven’t used Npp in a long time, but that’s awful. Glad they were able to get it fixed and their transparency is to be highly commended. But damn does it make me worry about other projects. Npp isn’t exactly obscure, but it’s also not exactly a massive target either.
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Oof. Kudos to Notepad++ for being up front with the details.
Yikes... i guess i am confused though. What data was being sent through this channel? What did they get from people while it happened and why did it take 2 months past them stopping it to finally make a release? I love the app, but this sounds really bad.
So should we at least uninstall our current Notepad++ and then download a new version? What else should we do, the post really doesn’t offer any advice.
In the old post from when the update was released a Heise article is linked, that contains indicators of compromise, and in turn links to Kevin Beaumont for the details of his analysis:
https://lemmy.zip/post/54712916
https://www.heise.de/en/news/Notepad-updater-installed-malware-11109726.html
https://doublepulsar.com/small-numbers-of-notepad-users-reporting-security-woes-371d7a3fd2d9
I would just follow their advice, download the newest version from their site directly and use the new versions installer to update manually. I would probably do the same thing when the newest version with certificate and signature verification releases, after that I would assume you should be good to go. However its probably also worth scanning your system for malware just incase you updated during the time frame the attack was live.
I don't think you'll need to uninstall. If I'm reading the article correctly, it looks like they plugged the hole in their update process by switching hosting providers to one that's even more hardened and secure. So requests from the updater should go to the correct place now and not the state-sponsored hacker.
Then in about a month, the next version of notepad++ that is released will also properly validate/verify any downloaded update files from the server.
You could also just disable the checks for updates from within the application too. Or better yet, use something like winget to handle the updates instead of the built-in updater.
The article literally states that should you download the latest version from their site directly and then use the installer to update manually. Who knows if those who were effected already could have something else compromising the update/install process. I wouldnt update from the built in updater until the new fix with certificate and signature verification is released.
And work bosses saw a news story on this and banned the app outright :( can anyone suggest a replacement that is not paid and has features useful for searching lots of large logs files quickly for keywords?
Notepad++ installed from any package manager was perfectly fine and safe.
Well those would have included the update checker. So if you installed from a package manager, then let it update when prompted for the new version, you could still have been at risk.
I don't know how most package managers on windows work, but usually, auto updates are disabled by default for software that comes from one. For example, Firefox installed using APT on various linux distro will not auto-update out of it.
I vaguely remember chocolatey packages not really doing that, causing mismatch between installed versions and its internal database, though, so maybe it wasn't that good of a solution.
I guess Geany could work?
I downloaded that one today. It will work for now but it's missing a couple of n++ features I use.
Sublime 3
Ive always had notepad++ crash on large files or xml's with no newlines. I use sublime in those cases :)
That said, as a developer, notepad++ is a very often used tool haha
I'm only using Sublime Text and the Notepad that is included with Windows. Not sure exactly what you're looking for.
If I recall correctly this is the second time this has happened to N++. Fool me once… can’t get fooled again.
Three times++, actually. The second attack was documented to have resumed after the third, with different payload URLs.
I've kind of stopped following things up since I left windows, but maybe you're remembering when this actually happened a while ago? This is just some in-progress post-mortem report.
I would like to know starting from wich version should i be concerned. I haven't updated in a while i think.
What was the latest version before June 2025?
Looks like 8.8.1 was May 2025 https://notepad-plus-plus.org/news/v881-we-are-with-ukraine/
8.8.2 was June 2025 and has a warning to ignore "false positives" of malware in the update.... Ouch. https://notepad-plus-plus.org/news/8.8.2-available-in-1-week-without-certificate/
You might have version 8.8.1 or lower, however it might have tried to order update got the vulnerable package instead and then remained on the older version. I think even if you have the older version that's not a sign that you weren't compromised.
Fair point. I was assuming the malicious payload would come along with an update on order to hide, but it's also possible that the malicious payload was delivered without any update to notepad++.
I've not seen any IOCs published have you?
I'm not sure what you mean. The article states there were remote hands on keyboard noticed in multiple companies. That's how the vulnerability was discovered.
I mean IOCs that you can scan for in an environment to see if a machine has been compromised using this vulnerability. Something that tells you if you need to do additional remediation on a machine or just update notepad++ and move on.
Edit: Found some! This is the type of info I was thinking of when I used IOCs
There's some IOC information here:
https://securelist.com/notepad-supply-chain-attack/118708/
And here:
https://www.rapid7.com/blog/post/tr-chrysalis-backdoor-dive-into-lotus-blossoms-toolkit/
How would you know if you updated?
My notepad++ is on 8.9.1 and I have no idea how it's on that ver (ninite I think is where I sourced it....maybe it's auto updating?)
the safe thing to do is uninstall, then download from the new (theoretically more secure) website and install the new (theoretically more secure) 8.9.1.
That won't rescue your system if it is already compromised though. It will just prevent it from being newly compromised in this manner.
Unfortunately i do work for a targeted company (we do a lot of secret squirrel stuff) in south East Asia.
We get a lot of attacks.
I was looking at the attack and malware they inject (there is a blog post link on the notepad++ notice) which pointed out how the attack worked. Apparently they run a service called bluetoothservice.exe. I didn't see anything like that or any the other stuff they said gets created.
But then again finding malware isn't my bag so who knows.
Pretty sure my updates came via nanite installer so I'm hoping I wasn't targeted.
This is why I don't update things that don't need updates. Untill I switched to Linux I had been using the same version for like a decade.
Also I'd imagine the American government is doing the exact same shit. Or rather Israel is doing it in behalf of the American government
china isn't a state they're a different country and do not belong to the united mexican states.
i don't speak german. sorry. :(
Dude, I miss the days of using Notepad++ in windows.
I mean, Kate is better, but it does not have that same I'm using it in highschool feeling that Notepad++ does.
As someone who switched from npp to Kate in the past year and change, I think npp is way better out of the box. Kate is like a multitool that you need to tweak a lot.
I actually just used it this weekend! On my airgapped Win XP machine. College vibes, very nostalgic.
I know that feeling. You'll never get it back because you grew up.
That feeling you have now is because that era reminds you of simpler times, less worries, less cluttered world. Embrace what you do now, it will be the same feeling in 15 years.
The ability of Kate to pipe selected text through shell commands is very nice. Ctrl+\ or whatever it is.
Notepad++ works fine on Wine on Mac and Linux. After being away from it from awhile, I realized I don't need it anymore. I would often use the column edit mode and recorded macros, but I just bash script those now. I guess I'm a different person now?!?
Helix crew checking in, healthy and kicking
still waiting for steel
What kind of plugins are you eager to add?
undo history sort of thing would be nice, a magit clone too
I don't understand the helix approach.
Let's build a new editor in rust (good), that is in the legacy of vim/nvim[/emacs] (good), that moves to resolve the backwards mechanics of the vim-syntax like meow (good) ... but let's build it all as built in features with no modularity ???
How can you build a new terminal editor like vim/nvim/emacs without realizing that the core strength is that the best features are delivered in plugins. Why would you try to write all of the functionality yourself? Why would you think that a small team can handle all of the work? How can you not realize that external contributors in vim/emacs are the source of the most interesting functionality?
I liked helix, almost as much as emacs w/ meow, but yiu xan't extend it, or write a plugin.
Full on. China poisoning open source software. Lucky it got caught. Imagine how much of it is going on.
Notepad++ is ukraine shills, i'd guess they're like hotznplotzn (western propagandists that always post clearly fabricated lies and almost always target china)
It used to be that being a ML (Malicious Linguist) in someones garage was the rage, now we got "Hackers with Chinese characteristics" smh
I'm so confused.
- It doesn't say anything about "state-sponsored attackers" outside of the headline? What state? Why?
- Why is a Notepad app connecting to any servers or have credentials at all?
It wasn't specifically notepad++ code, but a custom-written updater. That's why it was connecting to the internet.
It’s a bit unfortunate that this update designed to reassure has typos.
Huh. I accept Notepad++ auto-updates regularly, looks like I'll need to do a more thorough reinstall to be on the safe side.
If I got it right, someone took over the server that serves updates and switches that with their own payloads, for select users.
Current app version trusts the server ssl, but since itself was compromised it just updated itself with bad code. Next app version will also sign the payloads, so assuming that this would prevent from future bogus updates.


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