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[โ€“] 42 points 9 months ago (16 children)

Most of the American crap you listed only loosely qualifies as chocolate. Iโ€™m American and I donโ€™t buy it.

Lindt is the good stuff. And the coconut version of the top middle item.

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  • [โ€“] 32 points 9 months ago (7 children)

    Lindt isnโ€™t that good. They market themselves as premium but they kind of fail from a flavour perspective. Completely flat and uninteresting.

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  • [โ€“] 3 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    Didn't the CEO say he wouldn't even eat that shit?

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  • [โ€“] 8 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    I wouldn't call it shit, but it's very overpriced. It's like luxury brands like Gucci and what have you, you're paying for the brand and the quality isn't necessarily better. I'm no connoisseur or anything, but I've had some really good high quality chocolate a few times, and the depth in flavour you get is just something Lindt doesn't have.

    With cacao harvests suffering due to global warming, and the working conditions generally being shit (slave labour, even) my approach is to treat chocolate like the luxury it is; splurge on it on occasion, get something from a reputable seller, if there's an artisanal chocolatier locally you can support local business and have a better idea of where the ingredients are from.

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  • [โ€“] 1 point 9 months ago (1 child)

    Itโ€™s the most ubiquitous chocolate we have in every store that isnโ€™t Hersheys or Nestles trash. If you have a better suggestion that isnโ€™t more pricy, then let us know.

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  • [โ€“] 2 points 9 months ago

    Like I said, I treat it as a luxury. I buy from a local artisan, it gets expensive so I don't eat a whole lot. Flavour is fantastic and I know it's not from slavery, so that's all that matters to me.

    I don't judge anyone for choosing Lindt. I just personally can't.

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  • [โ€“] 1 point 9 months ago

    I like the the dark chocolate in the blue wrapper. No bitter anftertaste and the cool truffle center is lovely. But hey, you have another suggestion on a cheap-ish chocolate thatโ€™s worth the calories, that is welcome.

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  • [โ€“] 26 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    Hershey's chocolate is so disgusting. They literally add vomit flavor to it.

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  • [โ€“] 8 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    It genuinely does taste like vomit. The the yanks have the audacity to laugh at British food!

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  • [โ€“] 17 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 child)

    They actually add that flavor to it because that's what their chocolate is known to taste like. And it's known to taste like that from going bad in WW2 rations.

    So when I say that they add vomit flavor, that's not a joke. They literally add vomit flavor. It's so bad.

    Edit: Butyric acid, I think or something like that

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  • Completely unasked-for protip if you ever find yourself in Zurich - do the Lindt Home of Chocolate tour (building is fucking gorgeous and the tour is pretty cool), but don't be a sucker and visit the shop in the lobby. There's a factory outlet at the back of the property.

    I know as a random American, chances are you won't need this information, but I feel I got played when I walked out with my fancy bag of redic-balls expensive chocolate a few months ago (part of that was the CAD > CHF exchange rate, but still)

    I don't even know for sure if the chocolate is less expensive at the back, but noting the number of Swiss coming out of the outlet v. The Home of Chocolate, and difference in bag quality, it probably is.

    Also you might see these cars on the way back there, which are adorable af.

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  • [โ€“] 33 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    This feels very dependent on where in Europe you live. Up here in Sweden for instance we would most likely buy Cloetta or Fazer.

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  • [โ€“] 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Or... Garant. They have surprisingly good chocolate, especially the dark ones with raspberries or cranberries are delicious.

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  • [โ€“] 94 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    Instead of corporate, mass produced chocolates, please consider locally made, small batch chocolates if you truly want to support your chocolate industry. Also, its so much better.

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  • [โ€“] 22 points 9 months ago* (3 children)

    Several years ago my daughter's school had a trip to a (small, local) chocolate factory.

    For part of the trip the children queued up to dip a marshmallow into a vat of chocolate to taste it.

    My daughter was one of the first in the queue, ate hers and went to the back of the queue for a second one... I was so proud ๐Ÿ˜

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  • [โ€“] 34 points 9 months ago* (2 children)

    How many drowned?
    Who got the factory at the end??

    ... is the workforce paid???

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  • [โ€“] 10 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Ah, it was full health & safety... large stainless steel vat containing hot molten chocolate, rotating stirring paddle, steps (unsecured) up to an open inspection hatch... but they wore hair nets...

    And, I think they had that policy where all the staff could take as much chocolate as they wanted... so of course, all got sick & tired of that and never took any more.

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  • [โ€“] 7 points 9 months ago*

    Did you sign an NDA and this is the only version of the story you are legally allowed to repeat?

    (I'm glad for stories like that - I lived visiting factories/companies and farms throughout all school days. Kids need to understand what the production factors are & how logistics connects us all.)

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  • [โ€“] 32 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    Haribo and Chupa Chups now make chocolate?

    (BTW +10 respect to Tony's for actually carrying about the sources of their ingredients).

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  • [โ€“] 12 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    Yes, double win if you buy Tony's pro european and anti slavery.

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  • [โ€“] 2 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    I really don't like their random chunks and the very big ones with their logo on it. I feel it makes it rather hard to enjoy eating them.

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  • [โ€“] 4 points 9 months ago

    I like their reasoning behind the differently sized chunks ngl. According to text they have printed on the inside of the paper wrapping it's because in the chocolate industry (and many other places) wealth is also distributed unevenly: a few go grab all the too big chunks (big corpo grabbing everything for themselves) and the last ones (aka the ones who actually harvest the cocoa in this case) will be left with the tiny scraps only.

    Now whether that absolutely needs to be put into the size of the pieces is debatable, I tend to have bars for myself so worst case I grab a knife and chop the big ones up. Or just bite them in half.

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  • [โ€“] 22 points 9 months ago (1 child)
  • [โ€“] 18 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Who the fuck is buying Hersheys outside of the States anyway? Some sick fucks who enjoy the taste you get when you burp and throw up a little?

    Nah, anyone in Europe who's eaten chocolate that's made from actual milk would automatically reject that shit out of hand. In fact, I'd sooner eat the abomination that Cadburys has become since they got bought out by the Yanks.

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  • Butyric acid in case anyone is wondering. Literally a product of digestion, so you taste it when you throw up:

    Highly-fermentable fiber residues, such as those from resistant starch, oat bran, pectin, and guar are transformed by colonic bacteria into short-chain fatty acids (SCFA) including butyrate, producing more SCFA than less fermentable fibers such as celluloses.[13][21] One study found that resistant starch consistently produces more butyrate than other types of dietary fiber.[22] The production of SCFA from fibers in ruminant animals such as cattle is responsible for the butyrate content of milk and butter.[23]

    They literally put vomit flavor in their chocolate!!!

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  • [โ€“] 17 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (8 children)

    I can't recommend Tony's Chocolonely enough since they are the only chocolate maker [ I know of ] that actively tries to act against exploitation of cocoa farmers by paying a higher price per kilo. There is a John Oliver Episode on them :)

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  • [โ€“] 5 points 9 months ago

    They are great, here in my hometown (Nottingham, UK) we have a little place called Louisa's, and as far as I'm aware, she's the only vegan chocolate maker in the UK. She does direct trade with small family farms so that everyone gets paid fairly (direct trade > fair trade), she also knows a lot about the cocoa plant and so will visit her farmers to help them grow better beans and ensure these farms are run in an ethical fashion.

    Her chocolate is absolutely divine too, if you can, order from her.

    Warning, it's pricey, but hopefully you'll understand why!

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  • [โ€“] 1 point 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

    My only gripe is that it's impossible to break off two equal pieces, which makes sharing needlessly difficult.

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  • [โ€“] 14 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Are there any chocolate companies with well-documented supply chains that don't use child labor, slave labor, or otherwise exploit cocoa producers? Because everything I've seen and heard tells me that its best to just not eat chocolate at all.

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  • [โ€“] 11 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    I'd say Tony's would be your best bet? Not using slave labor is their stated goal, no idea how much they stick to it in reality

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  • [โ€“] 12 points 9 months ago

    Most of these aren't chocolate.

    Either from a pretentious standpoint (Kinder? Nutella?) or realistic one (does Chupa Chups even make any chocolate items? Haribo *might*)

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  • [โ€“] 12 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Tbf, European chocolate has always been superior in my humble opinion.

    I recommend Bjรถrnsted and Tom's as well.

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  • [โ€“] 7 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    It's not an opinion. Chocolate in the US tastes like wax and vegetable oil.

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  • [โ€“] 11 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Ritter Sport! Quadratisch, Praktisch, Gut

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  • [โ€“] 6 points 9 months ago

    I really like Ritter choccolate, but I find the motto really funny: you can't get more German than describing your chocolate (something you eat) first as square, second as practical, and only third, and last, as good ๐Ÿ˜†

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    [โ€“] 20 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    Oh, Tony's is European? I've been trying to cut it down but you leave me no choice but to keep supporting them...

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  • [โ€“] 14 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    And they have their own fair sourcing of cocoa with no slave/child labour

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  • [โ€“] 6 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    I thought that they couldn't guarantee that, which is why "slave-free" had to be removed from the advertising?

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  • [โ€“] 9 points 9 months ago* (6 children)

    I tried a Toney Chocoloney not too long ago and GOD DAMN that was some good fucking chocolate.

    Wasn't a fan of the way it's cut(?). It makes it real damn hard not to just eat the entire bar in one sitting when I can't just break off 2 or 3 squares.

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  • [โ€“] 14 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Toney is also ethical chocolate as the aim is to make the chocolate trade more fair for chocolate farmers. That's also why it's a bit expensive and it's why it is divided the way it is. It's a symbolic representation of how unfairly the chocolate industry distributes the wealth. Next time you buy a Toney bar, try and read the text inside the wrapping paper. Their mission is stated there if I remember correctly.

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  • [โ€“] 6 points 9 months ago*

    But you can break off fun, quirkly-sized chunks!! Didn't I see somewhere it was supposed to be a map of something?

    Also, I had no idea until this post that it wasn't made in the US. I love Chocolonely.

    Edit, from the Chocolonely site:

    Why are your bars unequally divided?

    It doesnโ€™t make sense for chocolate bars to be divided into equal-sized chunks when there is so much inequality in the chocolate industry! The unequally-sized chunks of our 180g bars are a palatable way of reminding Choco Fans and Serious Friends that the profits in the chocolate industry are unequally divided.

    And in case you havenโ€™t noticed, the bottom of our bars depicts the West African coastline. The chunks just above it represent the Gulf of Guinea. From left to right, you have Cรดte dโ€™Ivoire, Ghana, Togo and Benin (terribly politically incorrect, we know, but we had to combine them to create enough space for a hazelnut), Nigeria and part of Cameroon.

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  • [โ€“] 7 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Easy choice. I am American and I hate our chocolate. Absolutely dreadful.

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  • [โ€“] 6 points 9 months ago

    Iโ€˜d like to add Zotter to the list. Really good chocolate plus they only use ingredients from organic cultivation and pay their suppliers well.

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  • [โ€“] 6 points 9 months ago

    Good, not including Nestle.

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  • [โ€“] 6 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    As a Belgian, losing Cรดte d'Or still hurts

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  • [โ€“] 11 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 child)

    the Ferrero brand make nutella and kinder bars, and they also financially support the zionist entity and their ongoing genocide of palestinians. If that's the kind of thing you'd rather not support i'd suggest avoiding ferrero (and nestle)

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  • [โ€“] 5 points 9 months ago

    Be careful of Cadbury, for those considering.

    In the US it is mostly Hershey's, everywhere else it's fine.

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  • [โ€“] 5 points 9 months ago (1 child)
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    Why would you get any of these when e.g. E. Wedel and Wawel exist? Poland has some of the best chocolate.

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  • [โ€“] 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Where is Tonyโ€™s from? I thought itโ€™s uniquely USian?

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  • [โ€“] 13 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    there's a problem with the picture - nutella is garbage, not chocolate.

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  • [โ€“] 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    I got pistachio spread in Aldi and the taste is similar it made me realise how it is all the same base ingredients, sugar and oil.

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  • [โ€“] 4 points 9 months ago

    Or just plainly and simply drop all those big chocolate brands. There is so many better, smaller chocolate brands in literally every european country.

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  • [โ€“] 4 points 9 months ago

    I tried knoppers a while ago. Goddamn those are fine. And the knopper bars.. Omg

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