Chinese electric vehicles still pose a national security threat despite Canada lifting its tariff blockade, security experts warn, adding that nothing has changed since the previous federal government voiced concerns nearly two years ago.

Yet those experts also warn that the cybersecurity and privacy threats extend beyond Chinese-made vehicles to any car connected to the internet, which requires a robust response from Ottawa.

The new trade deal signed by Prime Minister Mark Carney and Chinese President Xi Jinping in Beijing on Jan. 16 allows for up to 49,000 Chinese EVs to enter Canada at a significantly reduced tariff rate of 6.1 per cent in exchange for China lifting tariffs on Canadian agricultural goods.

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Experts say the potential for Chinese governments or businesses to use internet-connected vehicles to listen in on drivers’ phone calls or record their movements remains a very real threat, particularly to the Chinese diaspora in Canada.

There are also broader cybersecurity concerns, said Neil Bisson, director of the Global Intelligence Knowledge Network and a retired intelligence officer with the Canadian Security Intelligence Service.

“It just allows another portal into our infrastructure, both communication-wise and energy-wise, because we’ll be plugging these vehicles into our own electric infrastructure,” he said in an interview.

“The opportunities to potentially do cyberattacks, to shut down critical infrastructure, it’s all there.”

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In June 2024, when Ottawa was weighing whether to match U.S. tariffs on Chinese EVs to stop those cheaper models from flooding the North American market, then-deputy prime minister Chrystia Freeland made clear the concerns were not just economic.

“We’re also looking at the national security aspect of this: the security aspect, including cybersecurity, when it comes to Chinese exports of high technology items like EVs,” Freeland said.

Not long after those comments, Canada ultimately followed through by slapping 100 per cent tariffs on all electric vehicles made in China.

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At the time of Freeland’s comments, David Shipley, the CEO of New Brunswick-based cybersecurity firm Beauceron Security, called those EVs “rolling spy vans” because of the technology they contain, including microphones and cameras.

That assessment hasn’t changed 18 months later, he told Global News in a new interview.

“The concern about China is that China is motivated to do this,” he said, “and they have the capability and they have legal infrastructure and requirements for their companies to co-operate with them” under Chinese national security laws.

Those same authorities are behind the spying and national security concerns surrounding TikTok.

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[–] 15 points 9 months ago

Headline: China boogieman!

Article: Yet those experts also warn that the cybersecurity and privacy threats extend beyond Chinese-made vehicles to any car connected to the internet, which requires a robust response from Ottawa.

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  • [–] 12 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    This is funny stuff. If you give someone else your money it's bad. If you give us your money it's good. US surveillance tech is everywhere but your going to be propagandized because there might be slave labour and more surveillance from China? America is all about surveillance and slave labour in China is all about producing cheap goods for (mostly) america. I'll go with China as a safer option than what america has lately produced.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago

    I think part of the safety certification that allows a vehicle to be sold in Canada is default opt-out of privacy invasive things like driver recording of any sort. And that would mean it applies to all vehicles sold, Chinese or domestic.

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago

    Would rather have China spying on me, which they already do in 1000 ways, than the US.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago

    This isn't wrong, but what are the alternatives? Unless we spontaneously stop buying cars (or at least demand privacy on them), any and every car company will be spying on us. Our information either goes to the US or to China. Neither is desirable, but it's not a reason to keep the price of cars inflated.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago* (1 child)

    Breaking Canadian dependence on US trade is our largest national security issue.

    Taking on smaller risks to mitigate larger ones is a simple optimization problem.

    Even on this one issue, the US is the bigger problem. Teslas spy on Canadians and send data to the US. Many of them are manufactured in China. So they may share data with both of them.

    And we send tens of billions of dollars every year buying US cars. The US wants to kill the Canadian auto industry.

    China is likely to invest in Canadian production to support North American sales.

    Chinese EVs are an improvement.

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  • [–] [S] -3 points 9 months ago

    China is likely to invest in Canadian production to support North American sales.

    Chinese EVs are an improvement.

    Even if China builds EVs in Canada, they will bring its own migrant workers from China as they always do. Also, supply chains of these cars are fully integrated with Chinese companies only.

    Chinese EVs aren't an improvement. It becomes harder for Canada to develop its own industry, and makes the government in Ottawa vulnerable for future coercion.

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    [–] 29 points 9 months ago

    Canadian national security is threatened more by the USA than it is by China at the moment. It's incredible, but it's true.

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  • [–] 21 points 9 months ago* (3 children)

    Chinese electric vehicles still pose a national security threat

    Why? Cars already can be tampered with and monitored by corporations and governments. If anything, Chinese cars should be safer because their malware won't be sanctioned by your government.

    Oh right. It's only acceptable when the West does it.

    Fucking hypocritical morons.

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  • [–] 17 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    The audacity to believe that Tesla's aren't a national security threat. Oh look, a moving tracker that can feed location and whereabouts to a fascist regime who wants to kill all progressives. Surely not a threat. Now buy more US software and hardware. We need more blackmail material on your political leaders.

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago

    David Shipley, the CEO of New Brunswick-based cybersecurity firm Beauceron Security, called those EVs “rolling spy vans” because of the technology they contain, including microphones and cameras.

    Uh Dave....everyone is carrying a device that contains microphones and cameras, and where the fuck were you when Tesla was gathering all this data, from inside people's homes?

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago

    Unless the EU ignores any sort of security risks, Canada can just mimic their set up. Chinese EV's have been available in Europe for a while now with some success.

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    [–] 6 points 9 months ago

    OK: dispatch tech workers to cut out every microphone, network antenna etc. on the vehicles before they're sold to Canadians. If the vehicles don't work with said things cut, ask some VERY hard questions of China as to why they have sent us defective merchandise to our country, and make them justify why these items need those bits to work.

    Similarly, any MAC address, BLE device, LTE modem, etc. in Chinese EVs could be enumerated upon entry to the border, and blacklisted by Canadian ISPs and mobile providers so their traffic cannot leave our borders. There are a myriad of data exfiltration experts who could advise the government on how to protect against such things.

    We can do this with our eyes open and play hardball. We don't have to be rubes.

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