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[–] 47 points 9 months ago (12 children)

Tear down the system that lead to a militarized police force and nation-wide surveillance? Nonono, that's crazy talk.

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  • [+] 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (8 children)
  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (7 children)

    I was talking to my friend the other day about how a massive EMP strike would ultimately do our society some good if we had to interact with our communities and neighbours again for necessities and entertainment again.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    That's true, but I suspect you're going to miss the many people who are going to die as a result.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (3 children)

    Absolutely. And I in all likeliness would also die. It would be a great tragedy. Maybe one that would cause humanity to step up. Start cooperating to fix this.

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    One of the best days I had in college was when the hurricane knocked out power so me and the neighbors had a drunk chess tournament (you lose a piece, you take a sip. End of the game, finish the can. Drink of your choice but one of the neighbors had a cooler of coronas they were sharing so that and water's what post of us drank. I was smoking sassages for the group. Probably won 2 games?) We all just hung out, playing chess, listening to music, eating sassages, drinking corona, and waiting to see if the hurricane was going to give us bad weather again all half expecting to drunken scramble into one of the ground floor apartments if shit started flying. It did not and we all eventually went home and to bed. Most of us never really hung out before then, and some of them I never saw after.

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    [–] 38 points 9 months ago

    Abolish ICE and then prosecute them. Or the other way around, not that important.

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    Worth remembering that both of the most recent fatal shootings were carried out by border patrol officers. It doesn't end with ice.

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  • [–] 15 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    First the one, then the other.

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  • [–] 13 points 9 months ago

    It's possible and necessary to do both.

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    When you finally denazify, please do it properly. Otherwise they and their ideology will fester in your institutions like a cancer, waiting to return when the time is right.

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  • [–] -4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (8 children)

    Good point but what does it mean?

    Any move against them, especially penalising them, will evoke a counter reaction. The ideology will linger on and fester.

    How do you decide who to "weed out"? Does it come down to removing all Trump supporters? That will create more tensions..

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (5 children)

    At least weed them out in all public institutions. Not like it was done in post WW2 Germany, where they were pretty much all left in place.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    That county is clueless and hopeless.
    Just look at how they still adore the Drone King Obama, mass-murderer and Deporter-in-chief.
    The scumbag now hypocritically criticizing ICE, while he expanded it.

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago* (1 child)

    They are murdering people in the streets with impunity. You are way beyond the "creating more tensions" stage.

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  • [–] -1 points 9 months ago*

    Yeah, but this talk of "weeding out" and "denazification" will only create more violence. You guys need to learn to chill.

    Who will you "weed out" anyway? Trump? His inner circle? ICE employees? Those who support ICE? Those who support Trump?

    All this tough talk does nothing but escalate the situation. The US really needs to learn how to be a functional democracy again. And no, that does not involve "weeding out" anyone.

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  • [–] 9 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    I bet the land of the free has a political party you can vote for that is running on that platform -- right?

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  • they all committed treason against America. guess what is an available punishment.

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago

    Shatter every member of ice. Letting them survive in prison isn't good enough.

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago

    Both please.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago

    prosecute... like they ...prosecuted our fellow citizens?

    hmm that system don't work no mo

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago

    Blow ICE out of the airlock.

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    Let's see if they remember the penalty for treason. Give it time, it'll come to them.

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    Melt ice in your bathtub.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago

    prisons are bad. abolish ice and the prisons

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    Do what I do, and lick ice.

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  • [–] -5 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    People pretending abolishing ICE makes sense: as long as the laws in their area of enforcement exist, you understand that makes absolutely 0 logical sense, right?

    You also understand the real problem is the administration abusing authority delegated through the presidency? That doesn't end by abolishing an agency? They can move resources or personnel anywhere in the executive branch? Hello? Any critical thought anywhere?

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