House Democrats introduced legislation that if passed would force federal immigration enforcement agents to wear a public-facing identification in the form of a clearly visible and scannable QR code during enforcement actions.

The measure, H.R. 7233, was introduced last week by Rep. Ritchie Torre, a Democrat from New York, and referred to the House judiciary and homeland security committees. It currently has two cosponsors, Democratic Reps. Darren Soto and Shri Thanedar, and has taken no steps beyond initial referral.

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[–] 144 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Or... get this crazy idea: We can require them to remove their masks when on duty.

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  • [–] 14 points 9 months ago

    Pretty much. It just seems nuts that the idea of a government security force wearing masks is not a source of constant outrage from the entire political spectrum. Accountability is a basic principle of modern government.

    Even if you're a MAGA fuckwit and agree with everything ICE is doing, you should be gravely concerned that they're doing it while wearing masks.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago

    As mad as I am, if I was tasked with defining a system of accountability, it would be to make absolutely sure every cop knew they were occupying a public service position. Their names, home address, EVERYTHING is publicly published. Their faces go up on posters in their neighborhoods "this is your law representative tasked with reporting and enforcement!". Just like a politician. They can be sued individually just like doctors. That should cut down on the number of ass clowns just looking to stomp minorities at least.

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  • [–] 42 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Jesus fucking Christ just abolish ICE already you spineless, useless collaborators.

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  • [–] 16 points 9 months ago

    No shit. Like right now the fuckers aren't even keeping proper plates on their vehicles and are still running around masked like gangsters.

    Even if they did have a QR code, what's it going to do give them a link to a hotline?

    "Hello, this is the ICE complaints line, please leave your name, number, and residential address and we'll dispatch an armed goon squad to deal with your 'complaint' "

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  • [–] 35 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    This needs a Not The Onion tag lol

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  • [–] 27 points 9 months ago

    How about a mark on the forehead instead?

    Carved logo

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  • [–] 26 points 9 months ago*

    yeah lemme just pull out my phone to scan this qr- ah fuck they already shot me, like the last guy who had his phone out

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  • [–] 24 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    Such a stupid idea. Just give them a normal ID you can look up, why should it be a QR code?

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  • [–] 9 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    A QR code is just that, a modern version of a code you can look up. However, I would worry that it might be hard to scan or read from a casual or safe distance if it's not large enough on their uniform.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    Exactly, it does nothing more than a regular code, except you cannot memorize it and it relies on your getting a good picture.

    I also havent found clarification of what the QR would point to. One of the ideas I saw was a page with the agents name and other info, which means they would be able to collect information on people scanning these codes.

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  • [–] [S] 19 points 9 months ago*

    And the Democrats will pat themselves on the back at this brave gesture.

    (This is sarcasm in case you can't read between the lines)

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  • [–] 17 points 9 months ago

    It's a fine idea, but how are you supposed to approach close enough to scan the QR code if they tackle and shoot people for using cameras?

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  • [–] 16 points 9 months ago

    Nice idea, wrong technology.

    The problem with QR codes is they're a. not human readable, and b. not instantly verifiable.

    Take a QR code and a stencil, spray a few of the black modules white and white modules black, and now you have a thing that looks exactly like a QR code to any human but in reality will not scan.

    A better idea would be requiring a badge number to be displayed in minimum 1" tall letters/numbers on the front of the uniform, and minimum 2" tall letters/numbers on the back of the uniform, whenever on duty.

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  • [–] 16 points 9 months ago

    there were cameras like everyone, we got like 20 different angles... and they still murdered an innocent person.

    training, cameras, ids.... those aren't the problem.

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  • [–] 12 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    Yeah, they'll just fuck with the QR codes and make them unreadable by adding in extra dots.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago

    little bit of sharpie over a white square and BOOM, unreadable.

    Or, better yet, they'll just do what they've already done, which is simply ignore the requirement. If they won't follow anywhere saying they can't wear masks, they won't wear the codes. Simple as that.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    QR codes do have some degree of error correction.

    Try it. Draw over some white spaces. It'll still scan.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (1 child)

    Yeah, I think it might have been Veritasium that did a video on it, but they can still be made unscannable. Ultimately, they don't wear barges as is, and their body cams seem to only work when they want them to, so what's the point. Fascism doesn't show it's face. They are going to find ways to hide no matter what.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    If you open any online QR code generator, you'll see a redundancy field, which is a percentage and encodes for how damaged a code can get before it's unreadable. you can set it pretty high. All that said, it'd be a hell of a lot better to abolish ICE.

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  • [–] 58 points 9 months ago (11 children)

    Oh this is sinister. They can now add malicious things to QR codes. So literally you scan it and tell on yourself to Palantir. Fuck morons.

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  • [–] 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 child)

    QR codes can contain other types of information aside from URLs (whose content can be altered remotely by the host). For instance, they can contain vCard data, where the subject’s name and business info are hard-coded into the pattern itself, with no remote connection needed (intended for sharing contact info without internet access). That format might be more appropriate for this case.

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  • This will not work. The problem with vcard QR codes is that they are too dense. People would need to be shooting high resolution video at close distance with a steady hand for the scan to be successful. The only way this could reasonably work would be if they were wearing large micro QR codes, but not all scanners can read those.

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  • [–] 17 points 9 months ago (6 children)

    no one can force you to follow a link you scan, that is not how it works.

    the problem i see in this is that when someone is shooting you in the back, it doesn't help much that he is labeled with qr code.

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  • [–] 17 points 9 months ago* (1 child)

    This is why they should be disarmed, defunded, and dissolved.

    They are enforcing paperwork. They need a pen, not a gun.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

    yeah. i mean step one should be banning them from wearing face mask. wtf kind of logic is that you are allowed to wear face mask and then they put qr code on you to compensate for that? they will just shoot you when you try to scan it and say they were afraid for their life.

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  • [–] 9 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Google and apple can, they could make it a convenience update. Lol https://www.cloudflare.com/learning/security/what-is-quishing/

    I'm sure Palantir is motivated enough to find a way.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    technique described on the link still requires you to actively open the link after you scan it.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago

    VPN or IP spoofing?

    The problem I see is if they're too small. Maybe somebody records an agent doing something fucked up, but unless you can nab a high fidelity screenshot showing the QR code clearly, does it really matter if it's there?

    It would be good to have a digital database tracking each agent, saying "so-and-so was spotted at such-and-such place doing this-and-that; here are some photos and video evidence."

    Or "Here's a group of ICE thugs brutalizing a bystander. Here are the QR codes that were spotted."

    But again, that all depends on people actually being able to scan the QR codes...

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  • [–] 10 points 9 months ago
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    The fucking idiots trying to reform an agency that must be abolished. Who's gonna be getting close enough to scan their codes?

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  • [–] 10 points 9 months ago

    Unless the code is printed with cyanide ink, I don't see how this could be useful.

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  • [–] 10 points 9 months ago

    I think we should allocate a few billion to ensure all officers are given "calming bananas". I think if they were to eat the calming banana before their shift, it should decrease the likelihood of them killing citizens. They are likely acting out because they are hungry. Anyway, glad we found some common ground.

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago

    They moved out from "Let's give ICE 1 billion dollars for cams" since they found out that they still killing people while wearing cams.

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago

    Yes, let's give them more regulations for them to ignore.

    If there's no accountability or consequences then who cares if they have a code, number, or even if they are masked.

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago

    Useless if the traffickers aren't unmasked, not registered with the states, keep their qualified immunity, lack body cameras that are controlled by the states, and...LIST GOES ON

    It would be much easier, cheaper, and more ethical to abolish ICE outright, and then form immigration services that are attached solely to their respective states. In turn, migrants will gravitate towards working with the states that don't suck. Red states can have the delusion of their isolationist superiority, even as their economies falter and die.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago

    Except the last person murdered by ice was just using his phone

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago

    I can think of a more recognizable square symbol to go on their forehead

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    Unless the legislation is "Abolish ICE" then it's functionally nothing at this point.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago

    And I'm sure those wouldn't be obstructed or tampered with in any way. Even if they DID do this it wouldn't fucking matter.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago

    God damnit…

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    Abolish that fucking mess and prosecute them for their crimes. We can carve swastikas into their heads after conviction, because that's the only thing we need to know about them.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    At this point, the only reason to have meta glasses is because they always film and can automate identification without being targeted for having your phone out.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

    That's retarded. Should we have it laser burnt on to our arms?.....oh its for them? Sure but add their name on there. What's the point of the QR code if you can only get to it when things are OK? As soon as the retard kills another of us their page will be taken down. the QR code is literally a webpage URL so they can just change it at will. Like special pricing.... When you're at home its $6.99, when you get to the store its $10.99 just for you.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    No deals. We cant normalize this behavior in any way. Masks off and ID presented or they are presumed to be civilians.

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