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[–] 71 points 9 months ago (7 children)

History time.

Back in the day, some Left women went to the Right To Life ladies and proposed an alliance.

Nestle was going into Third World countries and giving out free supplies of baby formula. Except they'd only supply enough to make the mothers stop lactating; once mommy stopped producing milk she was forced to buy expensive formula.

The Right To Life women were appalled and wanted to attack Nestle.

Enter Ronald Reagan and the 11th Commandment. He told the women that Conservatives should stand united and not listen to the Left under any circumstances.

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  • [–] 30 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    If a dozen people were pissing on Reagan's grave, every reason would be different.

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  • [–] 55 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    It's Monday. By evening, they will have had their marching orders.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    I always think the right values order and group cohesion more, so they let their previous infighting be bygone.

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  • [–] 81 points 9 months ago (20 children)

    Are they fighting? Just went to check and it seems like the narrative is entirely "protester had it coming"

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  • [–] 86 points 9 months ago (12 children)

    This post suggests that the appearance of unity is the result of mod censorship.

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  • [–] 60 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    That is always what happens with potentially controversial news stories over there. Before any official party narrative have been established, the morons are just freestyling their own thoughts, then the official narrative is established from above, and the morons who freestyled wrong gets erased, and peace and unity reigns once more among the fascists.

    It has been the standard practice at least since 2016. The reason they still have any accounts left is because it is nothing but sock puppets and bots.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Must be nice to be able to dictate a narrative like that. Also to be so annoyingly united. Whereas the opposing side is always fractured and fights amongst itself

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Democrats' traditional governing methodology is consensus-based, whereas republicans' governing methodology is traditionally authoritarian.

    It's slower, less efficient, and prone to reaching impasses, but ultimately it's more humanistic and healthier for civil society.

    There's not really a best-of-both-worlds. Consensus or authority: which do you value more?

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    This doesn’t appear to be just a us politics thing though. It seems that most places have only one far right party

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago

    The reason the west has distinguished itself as the "free world" over the last century is largely because many western countries have liberal democracies built on consensus-based governance. That's not limited just to the west, of course, but the west pioneered it and for decades were considered the "leaders of the free world."

    There have always been authoritarian governments, and hardly ever a shortage of animosity between them and the "free world."

    Of course, the "free world" itself was never perfect. But it did make a lot of progress. The Nordic Model was perhaps the most pro-social form of governance the world has seen to date.

    Unfortunately, the west is deteriorating. People are losing faith in liberal democracy as many of its weaknesses are leading to critical failures (such as ungovernable stalemates like in France, or polarizing politics such as the US), neoliberalism giving corporations too much power and late-stage capitalism becoming a transition from financial oligarchy to technofeudalism, and a resurgence of far-right authoritarianism due to a combination of factors (widespread discontent due to social inequality, economic stagnation, and wealth disparity; misguided ire due to algorithmic manipulation, sensationalist reactionary populism, and foreign adversarial disinformation/propaganda/psyops/hybrid warfare).

    It really feels like the western experiment is falling apart, and I don't know what the future holds but it looks bleak. Prior to the post-WWII rules-based order, the world was a dark place. Maybe it hasn't exactly been a bright place since, but it's been brighter than otherwise, brighter than it was before. Some people say it's good that the west is falling apart, but they forget that the values of humanism, equality, and diversity were incubated within this western experiment. There's a reason everybody wants to move to the west, and it's not because it sucks. Maybe it does suck, but not as bad as other places. Why else would people be leaving their homes to move to the west? It's because they're seeking a promise of a future; a civil order, a social safety net, education and career opportunities.

    What happens if the west falls apart? What happens if it gives in to far-right authoritarianism? What if the social order collapses? People like Putin, Lukashenko, Orban, Khamenei, they would have a big chuckle. That would be a very dark day for the world.

    The world is already facing dark days, but they can still get much darker. The world still seems to be getting darker. Every year lately seems to reach a new low. We're entering an age where chaos, hatred, violence, and oppression rein.

    It doesn't have to be this way. Not everywhere. The last strongholds of democracy can still hold together. Europe, Japan, South Korea, Taiwan. There are more places that can still be considered part of the free world, but it seems like every one is facing troubles. Everywhere, that way of life is coming under attack.

    I don't know what the answer is. It feels like a force of history that's as unstoppable as an avalanche. Maybe there was a point in time when it all hung in the balance, but once it tipped over to the wrong side it's all been tumbling down since. Maybe either side it tipped, it would tumble. Maybe holding that delicate balance was the trick. In that view, it's quite impressive that it lasted as long as it did. The last time the world order broke down so catastrophically was in the lead-up to WWII.

    No, I don't think there's any stopping the dark days that lie ahead. We failed...

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  • [–] 19 points 9 months ago (6 children)

    That's on par for reddit. At least for the last 12 months.

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  • [–] 27 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    Oh buddy. A lot longer than 12 months

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  • [–] 10 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Well yeah but , specifically it's been heavy censorship for the last year.

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  • [–] 12 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Nothing to do with anything. That sub has always been one of the most censored subs on reddit, that is the only way they are able to contain it as a propaganda bubble. I have followed it since 2016 and it is the same as it was then.

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  • [–] 27 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    Its certainly the narrative being pushed. Every once in a while when something like this happens I like to go on Reddit or Twitter and see what the MAGA social media narrative pushers are trying to do and what people who casually browse their are seeing and saying. MAGA has obviously decided that the rhetoric is that that protester deserved it. A few conservatives and most liberals are angry. Corporate democrat liberals think ICE needs more money for better training.

    I think I hate them the most.

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  • [–] 15 points 9 months ago* (3 children)

    Seems like maybe you should hate the neonazis the most. Just saying, maybe second place is more reasonable.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago

    It's in line with MLK's Letter From Birmingham Jail. It's the moderates that angered him the most because at least with the KKK both sides understood each other's position. Enabling violence through sheer ignorance despite best intentions is absolutely frustrating in the least.

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago

    Nah, the person I feel more anger towards is the person who claims to be my ally against the nazis and betrays me in favour of said nazis. Both are nazis, one just tries harder, is more deceptive, and is more effective at fucking me.

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  • [–] 35 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Lots of pro ICE bootlickers in that sub, too.

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  • [–] 13 points 9 months ago

    all my local facebook nazi sympathizer had to say about the matter was... nothing. they shut their mouth up tight about this event.

    now they're ranting about how people don't realize that the anarchocommunists want people to get upset and support the anti-ICE protests, because it'll provoke a reaction that they can use to justify further violence.

    it's just an absurd statement considering reality is flipped, I had to read it twice to ensure I understood what that dumbass was saying. and this guy owns a business and wants to start a neural company of some kind...

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago

    MAGA has been fracturing for a while now, this is just another further division. Everything is going to fall apart when the big beautiful obituary happens, god knows when

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago

    Popcorn time.

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