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[–] 52 points 9 months ago (4 children)

The housing crisis and recession was in full swing, and my wife had to close her retail business as a consequence. Shitty times, but absolute bliss compared to today.

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  • [–] 12 points 9 months ago

    Ah I remember this. At the time, I was part of the team at my work that was tasked to monitor the user accounts of the hundreds of people who were gonna be laid off in one day, to make sure they don't do anything before the accounts are disabled. That was a somber day.

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    It was the best of times, it was the worst of times, it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness, it was the epoch of belief, it was the epoch of incredulity, it was the season of light, it was the season of darkness, it was the spring of hope, it was the winter of despair.

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  • Oh wow! Has. It ben that long already? In 2008 I had just graduated from software engineering and started my first career job. It took me months before I found a job because of the economic crash. And when I found one, the pay was shit. Cost of living wasn't as high though so it was ok.

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  • [–] 18 points 9 months ago (15 children)

    In college, watching the industry I was getting a degree in tank (and many others). I chose the field in part because of historically good job stability and 95%+ job placement after college. That all evaporated. Folks who should have been retiring were having to work longer, leaving no room for fresh college grads.

    I hope this AI crap resolves down to a more stable level. I'm concerned the folks in college now will have it even worse between another generational bubble working it's way through and now AI making things more "efficient" so fewer humans are perceived as necessary.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago* (8 children)

    I think the right idea is that work should be automated away because the sole reason why people work at all besides for themselves is to make the economy function and so automating the boring work of making the economy function makes a lot of sense to do so that we can be freed up to play a different economy game that is about responsibility.

    The pain point for the time being is that in the inbetween stages there isnt yet a clean way to make a hand off to that system so whenever something is automated it just leaves people high and dry

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    There's a way. UBI. But there's no appetite for it because politicians and corporations don't make mad profits off it. Line must go up faster and faster each quarter; letting the poors die in debt does this better than providing them a basic income.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (1 child)

    That is a good point, if partial economy is automated that leaves partial money available to handout as ubi.

    I had dismissed ubi because that is something that would only happen if there is enough pain on the consumers for them to give handouts, I guess this did happen when covid started up but that wasn't seen as a similar function as ubi...which actually I read about some tests of ubi awhile back and they seemed to do what we think they do but the tests seem to make that not so obvious.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    We can actually concentrate the consumer pain on 1% of the richest population and hurt no disadvantaged children.

    Dealing with mercenaries and police protecting them is usually the next hangup, unless you can get someone to pull it through on a charisma check. Without getting assasinated.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    The problem is that LLMs aren't actually automating away any significant amount of work, just transforming it for some unlucky few (developing -> debugging slop), and fooling c-suites into laying off people for the funds to invest in the empty promises.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (2 children)

    For now, I think even if absolutely nothing changed with how they fundamentally worked from here on out and just kept throwing more money and data at them they could still actually automate some things away at some point, but they definitely will be also getting fundamentally better on top of this.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (4 children)

    Going to assume that’s tech.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago* (3 children)

    Close. Engineering. Lots of engineers hung on 5-8 years longer than originally planned because their retirement plans got hurt so badly, which meant fewer jobs for fresh grad engineers to get hired on. I'm starting to see it again with colleagues who want to retire this year but are tacking on an extra couple because their finances aren't where they planned to have them.

    Then I can get going about removal of pensions back in the day and expectation that people jump job to job to get pay increases instead of getting raises in-role that match let alone exceed inflation, incentivizing people to NOT stay with a company for long, leading to a shallow bench for the next line of leaders and experts. I'm mid-to-late 30s and am on my 4th company since college and 3rd job within current company; contrast that with my dad who worked for the same company for almost 40 years and holds as many patents for them and knew that company inside and out. I will never be as knowledgeable and efficient as he was. Where industrialization allowed specialization, it seems like we're actively pushing to go back to generalization where workers are replaceable with minimal changeover time.

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  • [–] 17 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    I was still a high-school student. Got baptized and confirmed in 2008. Bought an iMac from the gift money and became a bit of an Apple fanboy for a while. I've since left the church and no longer like Apple.

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  • [–] 15 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

    I was in Guangzhou, China.

    I vaguely remember the hype around Bejing Olympics, but I never cared about sports so... eh... don't remember much of the actual thing, only the hype around it.

    I was... um... 6 years old?

    In 1st grade, public schools didn't allow me and my brother because we did noy not have a Guangzhou Hukou so we went to some privately-run school that my parents had to pay out of pocket, which according to mom, it was worse than public schools.

    We lived in some apartment in a... kinda... "slum" part of the city.

    Parents was either working all the time or was looking for work all the time. Didn't get to see them too often.

    Maternal grandmother was at home to watch us.

    No internet, no sure if because of our neighborhood not having it or because of money issues...

    But we did have some paid subscription cable(?) tv thingy... so that was all the entertainment there was... a lot of um... I think kids cartoons(?) memory is kinda blurry.

    So I'd walk to school with... usually grandmother, but sometimes, very rarely, one of my parents that somehow had free time. Probably dad because he didn't have a stable job... but I don't remember much.

    No free lunch in schools, so you either paid for lunch or you went home for lunch...

    I remember just walking home by myself for lunch time, cuz grandma thought it was fine? Cuz nobody would kidnap me in broad daylight right? Right? (👀 mom told me about the supposed "lots of kidnappings" in China, idk how serious that actually is tho)

    Its like 5 flights of stairs to the small apartment unit, I don't think this building meets western building safety codes lol.

    So I had lunch at home, then go back to school like approx 1 hour later.

    Then finish the rest of the school day and go back home, for dismissal, there was always someone was there to pick me up, either grandma or dad or rarely mom. I remember mom always warning me to never trust a stranger that claims to be picking me up. Cuz apparantly there's a lot of kidnappers. That "stranger danger" thing terrified me lol

    Don't think I ever remember hearing Cantonese (the lingua franca and "dialect" of Guangzhou) used in school, not by peers, no one. Its all jusr Mandarin

    Teachers had meter sticks to "discipline" "misbehaving" students

    The schools used blackboards and you write with chalk. There were no smartboards anywhere to be seen. No projectors.

    All instruction just using this small student handbooks that each student had their own, and teacher wrote stuff on the blackboard to teach things.

    I think summers we go back to our ancestral village? Dad and mom were from different villages and I think usually I go to my mom's village, cuz that's where my maternal grandmother lives.

    Mom told me that my maternal grandfather took me to the stores and he'd buy ice cream for me... but I don't remember lol

    In Guangzhou, I remember sometimes, my parents took us to the McDonalds near us, but its more like a "vibe" memory, don't remember much about the food or the taste of food, its over a decade ago. But I remember having ice cream.

    I vaguely remember this one school trip... to idk where lol... all I remember was being on the bus and I think I threw up... car sickness lol... we didn't have a car and so I don't get used to it.

    I think its either this year or 2009 that I had the incident of my older brother (5 years older than me for context, its not a fair fight due to age difference) fighting me then I ran away from home for a few hours... was so scary to be alone in the city for a few hours... still traumatized...

    I remember the malls...

    I remember being at that store and asking my parents to buy stuff...

    this one time I ask them to buy these board games so I can play with my brother... (yes that same brother that want to fight with me all the fucking time)

    I remember the metro system... the platform safety door thing was so fascinating to me...

    ...that's all I remember on the top of my head right now. I think that one traumatic memory kinda casted a lot of "fog" the blurriness of the memory, and my family leaving that city and the country altogther made it so much easier for my brain to just repress most of it...

    Edit: Also I had zero friends... :( So yea I basically spent my early childhood with my sort of abusive older brother... 😭

    Edit2: Lol, fixed phrasing mistakes that I just realized after this comment has been up for hours

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  • [–] 11 points 9 months ago

    Happy Birthday.

    Only one person mentioned Obama, so I'll put it in.

    2008 was only 40 years after MLK was killed, so you had a lot of people who'd seen him when he was alive. I knew people who didn't want to watch on election night because they were so fraught. They couldn't even believe he'd gotten as far as he had.

    I was working in downtown Brooklyn, in an area with a lot of Black people. The most you saw was the occasional poster, and he was usually part of a group with MLK, Malcolm X, and other icons. I never saw any of the giant flags that Trump lovers fly.

    This is another thing I noticed. In the Bush years you'd see a lot of skulls in fashion; in the Obama years there were more peace signs. That's my personal experience in NYC, so take it with a grain of salt.

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  • [–] 9 points 9 months ago* (1 child)

    The first half of 2008 was okay. I was a year into having my own place, was dating a lot, and traveling multiple times a year. Going on your first solo vacations as a young adult is a pretty dang cool thing.

    I was still new in my career and was building my adult life. I had a job lined up in Chicago, but it was with a financial company, and the collapse of Bear Stearns, Lehman, and the whole economy got the offer pulled that September.

    I remember being very excited for the election. I actually got to go see Michelle Obama give a speech in the jazz district here in Kansas City, and the line to see Barack Obama speak at his Liberty Memorial campaign stop was so long they had to cut it off for security reasons. We sat on one of the hills and listened to the speech, and he was elected by a large margin.

    In hindsight, 2008 was the last year I had any real hope for the future.

    Obama was supposed to be the Anti-Dubya, but he turned out to be a conservative fascist too. The banks were rewarded with bailouts and bonuses for crashing the economy, and to this day, only one person's gone to prison for it. I now just assume each new year will be incrementally worse than the last, which while bad for my mental health, has been great for my financial planning.

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  • [–] -1 points 9 months ago

    Obama was supposed to be the Anti-Dubya, but he turned out to be a conservative fascist too. The

    Ha ha ha. I read all this way for a shaggy-dog both-sides meme. This is second only to the guy who trots out the story of a wrestling match at the tail of a shaggy dog story.

    Well done!

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  • [–] 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

    I entered undergrad. My dad had a massive accident. I turned 18 and in retrospect, I started feeling suicidal that year. Yeah, overall, it was a pretty bad year for me.

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  • [–] 9 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    My first child was born that year. 🥲

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    No, not yet. He's still in school, he did decide on an education/career path (no longer robotics, turns out math, physics, and programming are hard), so he'll be around for a few more years, at least until he's done with his FOS (we're in Germany).

    We decided that as long as the kids are in school, they can stay with us. And with rent prices these days...

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  • [–] 9 points 9 months ago

    That month I left active duty military after 11 years, moved my family, and got licensed in my home state to do my job. I had prepared quite a bit and had family help, but it was still a rough life transition for all of us.

    By that spring when everything started to settle down and go a bit smoother, the housing crisis set in. Everything got more expensive quickly. I remember worrying I wouldn't be able to afford fuel for my long commute. I was terrified I wouldn't be able to support my family.

    Somehow we held it all together, but it was a stressful fucking year. Despite all I never regretted leaving the military...it was either that or go back (again) to secure Halliburton's oil interests in Iraq.

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  • [–] 9 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    I'm 16. My dad gave me his old Ranger, so I can drive my friends to Taco Bell (most of them just jumping in the bed) for our lunch break. Bean burritos cost $.89, so I eat one of those for lunch since it's cheap enough that I can buy one almost every day as long as I keep stealing pocket change from the dish in my parents closet. My high school adopted an IB program into it in order to boost failing test scores, so I'm pulling up to the Taco Bell parking lot in the US South, and out of my bed jump 2 black kids from the hood, a chinese kid, an indian kid, and a gay guy - like some kinda after school special.

    Or sometimes we would drive over to the Publix, where I would buy a loaf of bread, then walk over to the tables outside the Starbucks in the same strip mall and eat it with other friends who had got a coffee. I remember feeling like both of these things - bread that actually had some texture to it, that wasn't pre-sliced, and buying coffee from a shop that only sold coffee - were very fancy. A taste of an exciting world that was breaking through the boring, prefabricated, and onerously corporate life I'd been cloistered in for too long.

    In class, I half listen to my teachers drone on while desperately trying to do the homework for my next class which is due next period - I'm a huge procrastinator. Actually, this seems to be one of the main things my classmates and I bond over - our habits of chronic procrastination and sleep deprivation.

    In a break between classes, I find a water fountain and awkwardly tilt my plastic 1L nalgene bottle to the side to fill it. I still remember people saying that buying bottled water like Dasani was dumb and weird since "you can get water for free from the tap". Carrying a reusable water bottle around with you and refilling it is a fad that is just a few years old - but I've adopted it because I've sworn off all soda for more than two years now. This makes me weird, but I don't care, because I've been slowly losing the weight that made me a fat kid in middle school. Ironically, we would find out a few years later that the plastic in that bottle might cause cancer.

    After school, I head to swim practice. I don't like swimming. I'm not good at it. I dislike how cold the water is every day, the smell of chlorine, the constant lack of air, and the boredom of staring at a black line on the floor of the pool. But I need to participate in some sport to get my IB degree, which will get me a college scholarship, and my sister was on the team so I defaulted to it. And anyway, at least it's not the football team where I would be bullied to no end. And I get to look at girls in swim suits. And think about what if one of them could maybe, possibly, someday, impossibly, like me.

    After school, I drive home. Looking back, I regret this choice, since I could have gone anywhere else and done anything else with that time - and home was always where I was most miserable. But I'd had the habit built in, so I guess it never occurred to me. Once I got home, I would play video games or fuck around on the internet (I had a desktop pc in my room) until dinner. My folks usually worked late, so dinner for me was often, say, a frozen stouffer's meal heated up in the microwave. I might eat it while watching The Daily Show or the Colbert Report on the TV in the living room - probably my first foray into real political thought and current events.

    Then it is time for bed. Or, it is the time when a reasonable person would go to bed. I spend that time endlessly scrolling the internet some more. Or playing my Xbox. Or reading fantasy novels late in the night until my mom pounds on my door and screams at me to go to sleep. So I turn out the light, wait 5 minutes, and then go right back to doing what I was doing.

    Around 2 or 3 am, I get tired enough to want to sleep. And I lay down in bed and think about shit. About how I can stop being miserable all the time. About getting the fuck out of this house and this town. About how I can get girls to like me. And then I pass out, only to feel like I've been punched in the face a few hours later by the piercing bleet of my digital alarm clock.

    So, yaknow. Some good, some bad

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    Shit the sub 1$ drive through meals were the shit. I remember being hungry and being able to crape through my floors and center console for a handful of quarters and cheffing up a mcgangbang off the mcdanks 1$ menu. When fast food was actually cheap instead of costing what a real meal at a burger shop would be. We didn't know how good we had it when Obama was in office.

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    I remember being very confident and optimistic. I had just started college, and nerd shit had just become the dominant force in our culture.

    People were joining the internet and connecting via Facebook which I thought would lead to world peace.

    Bush was out of office and Obama had won.

    The iPhone meant I could use the internet and apps whenever I was.

    Everything was becoming higher quality. The fast food restaurants were all remodeled to look like actual buildings. TVs in waiting rooms became all flatscreen, something I associated with the very wealthy.

    Every brand was trying to copy apple so everything became a lot more white and clean. Simplified.

    I had discovered reddit which felt like cheat codes for knowledge, especially since I was the only person I knew in real life who knew it existed.

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago

    In 2008, Iron Man had just come out and blown everyone's minds. iPhones were still quite new, so was Facebook. Obama got elected and everyone was excited by the first black president, even here in Australia.

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago

    Happy birthday!

    I was in high school and honestly having a great time. My friend group was pretty solid, I remember having a decent bunch of fun classes, and that was the first year I had a cell phone. Having a phone and a friend with a car meant that I was granted a lot more freedom.

    My friend with the car would pick me up at 6am on the weekends and sometimes on school days and we'd go snowboarding, pushing each other to be better and to have fun. We did a lot together besides just that, and I spent a lot of time at her place, which was nice to get away from mine.

    It was a good time :) I hope your teen years haven't been too fraught with all that is happening in the world and you're able to have your own freedoms and fun

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago*

    "Why are you all concerned about boys? Have you heard the song Time to Pretend by MGMT? Why are you not concerned about the song Time to Pretend by MGMT? Do you not miss the playgrounds and the animals and digging up worms????"

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

    I finished high school in spring which was a true blessing. I had always been a good student (4th best in my year) but got bullied for being a nerd.

    Over the summer, I worked as a programmer for a small game studio, making a Nintendo DS game that got cancelled by the publisher on the day we sent in the last release candidate because they finally noticed that their idea was crap and they should have accepted the changes we had proposed. Didn't matter, I had already been paid and got a lot of experience out of it.

    In October, I started university which was a great chance to make new friends. By now I've lost contact with most of them but some are still around and I appreciate them a lot. I was lucky enough to already live close to the university so I could stay at my parents' house.

    Through all of this, I was in the middle of my first serious relationship. My partner moved from across the country to a town just an hour away from me. Being able to see each other more often was amazing but at the same time it made things more complicated. We were constantly struggling with aligning our schedules, couldn't agree at whose place we should meet and got annoyed when one wanted to meet friends on a day the other would be free. We broke up in 2009 but we're still good friends.

    It was pretty much the peak of a community that I'm still part of today. Apart from long online discussions, we met twice a year for community events with about 60-80 guests who decided that it's our turn to define what being a grown-up means. These events still exist (the last one was just a few weeks ago) but they've gotten smaller and some of that chaotic creativity has been lost forever.

    Overall, 2008 may have been the start of one of the best sections of my life. I've never had more active friendships at the same time, before or after. I had many of the perks of being an adult without most of the drawbacks. I earned a bit of money and could keep most of it because university is cheap in my country and I didn't have to pay rent. If I had the chance (and could take a few people that I met later with me), I would probably go back.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Many old chaps ITT, heheh. I was 18 in 2008, graduating high school. Happy birthday OP.

    What was it like ? lots of Halo3, lots of wanking,... lots of feeling lost too, as I was approaching the moment I had to make choices for myself.
    It's hard to give a rundown really, as my grip on the world was waaay less firm than it is now, and I barely knew what was going on.
    In mainland France we could consider ourselves blessed -but little did I know, not far from us, the Arab Spring was about to mount like mayonnaise. The US were still widely thought to be a bastion of democracy (or was it just my youthful naïveté?), Abe Shinzo had not been murdered yet and Iron Man had just released. Maybe they'll make more of these ? -political assassinations, I mean. Here's to hoping 🥂

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    [–] 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Feel bad for the kids today, at least older people can remember what hope felt like.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (1 child)

    Meanwhile my parents tells me how much they had to suffer in China and how much things have improved and constantly tells me to "be grateful" because I have more variety of food to eat and "shouldn't be picky about food" and "complaining"

    Also tells me about many people being undocumented and that I "should be grateful for being so lucky of having legal status in the US"

    (I literally never said I was ungrateful lol, but its this constant guilt-trippin every time my mom think I'm "being ungrateful")

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    Boomer Asian parents are materialistic. I always say that they have never gone past Maslow's hierarchy of needs of fulfilling material security needs. They are always in survival mode and are cynical. Asian parents think fulfilling material security of their kids is enough to be considered responsible and loving parents. I can't exactly blame them having this mindset, because post-World War 2 colonial countries haven't had it easy as they emerged poor after independence. Many suffered from dictatorship propped up by either side during the Cold War or experienced internal strife in some ways.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    I voted in my 2nd presidential election that year.

    Sadly, I was still just beginning the very first stages of realizing God is the biggest scam in the history of the universe, so I voted McCain.

    There is a lot of my past I'm not proud of. But given that I didn't really have a lot of human contact outside of church members until I was almost 14, I gotta give myself a little slack. But it's still embarrassing af.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Ya I was out of high school for awhile and I still blamed poor people spending to much on shit they can't afford as to why the housing crisis was happening.

    Definitely didn't realize how greedy the banks and wall Street had become. I lived on a farm, in a village of about 30 people. Had dial up internet but everyone in my social circle were republicans, thankfully had some liberal friends that pulled me out of that

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    The east coast had a HUGE snowstorm. I was a kid. I remember building tunnels and igloos and having snowball fights with my siblings and friends. My younger brother was undergoing chemo. My parents were stressed about money. Obama won the presidential election and I cried, not understanding politics but only knowing that Obama was the option my parents didn't vote for.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago

    I was 21 in 2008. The cat in my profile pic, Oscar, was born in April that year, and I adopted her in June. She died of complications from kidney disease last July, at the age of 17. Time moves too fast.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago

    College. Having fun with friends. Economy was crashing. Jobs, if you could find one, were trash. Democracy was still safe though. The dumbest members of society weren't dictating our future.

    So just kind of a mix of fun and stressful, with less existential dread.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago

    I was in elementary school, parents took me to Ron Paul rally which was pretty cringe. Reading Warriors books, watching Star Wars the Clone Wars, mascot for older sisters robotics team.

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  • My family were all still alive, and Garry's Mod was basically the greatest thing ever to me at the time.

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  • Juuuust out of college, perfectly in time for the housing bubble to burst and all the jobs evaporate.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago*

    It's when I went from a freelance perpetually broke dork to a full time and well paid dork with a career. That's also the year I met my now GF and mother of my children.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    In my late twenties, working the same job at the same Rite Aid store since 2003. I hated that job at that point; the latest person to get put in store manager position was an awful boss. I was taking classes at community college just hopping around trying to figure out what the hell I could do to move on to some other employment.

    I ultimately did not quit that job until about six years later.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago

    I was stoned off my gourd so I hardly remember.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago

    I was in high school in France and had no idea what was happening on the stock market. I just heard from the news that there was something big going on. My main focus were my girlfriend (at the time) and my friends. I think I had my first parties with alcohol at that time. My grades kinda dropped around this time but I managed to turn it around the next years!

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago

    Just got back from Alaska, my 2nd kid was born, my wife got her first job in her career field, had to vacate a house that I was rent to own due to a busted foundation and being at the bottom of the hill so got super flooded and found black mold in the basement. Played a crap ton of halo 3. Started work at a NOC after completing my associates. Wasn’t a terrible year just a couple snags. I think my wife became disabled from her maladies at the end of this year as well. Things got pretty scary in the following year for us.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago

    Drunk, got fired for being a drunk, sold plasma to get a daily McDouble and a couple 40s. Read library books until my landlord (wife of the woman who fired me) evicted me.

    What a low time to look back on. So glad I got sober.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago

    A lot better than it is now

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago

    Part whirlwind, part most stability I've experienced in my life, and part adjusting to a new norm.

    My life in the mid 00's was... Interesting. Mrs Canopyflyer and I met in 2004, got married in 2005, moved 400 miles for her job in 2006 and baby #1 was born in 2007.

    So by 2008 I was getting used to:

    1. Being a newish husband.

    2. Being in a completely new city where I knew no one.

    3. Being a new father.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago

    2000-2013 were the best years of my life. Don’t get me wrong things were really good before 2000 for me but those 13 years were the best.

    My wife and I had great jobs that gave us everything. Good money, fun work, great work life balance. Also we loved were we lived. Everything was great. We enjoyed our kid playing sports, Video Games were really taking off, we did an annual summer vacation to the Outer Banks of NC.

    The three of us had really good circle of friends.

    Things were just bliss.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

    fucking awful. university was not going well, and I was alone and felt it. Depression was making everything worse.

    2018 on the other hand... SABBATICAL TIME BABY best year of life

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

    I was 22 and struggling massively. I'm told there was a financial crisis but financial crises don't really affect people with no money, no job, no prospects and no hope.

    Believe it or not there was 15 years of going further downhill from there, with depression, drugs, alcohol, crime and insanity.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago

    I graduated high school in '08. It was also around the time I got my first cell phone. It was also maybe a year or two after I lost my faith in Mormonism. I was depressed as fuck and it would be another decade or so before I came out as gay.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago

    I was in highschool and I begun to date my ex-girlfriend this year (she's now my wife).

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago

    Shitty year, honestly. Was technically the beginning of the end to the current climate. Pre 9/11 was the last good era.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago

    I was 29, single and back-packing in SE Asia, then Oz, working in dive bars, hostels and selling strawberries for beer money. It was a bizarre time in my life that I enjoyed tremendously.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago

    I never enjoyed my early years, I was consistently bullied at school and the school itself never made me feel challenged mentally. In a couple years I'd switch school which would let me to meet my first love and set my social health back up.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    I still wear clothes from 2008, so that wasn't a long time ago.

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    I got married to my gf of 7 years and started going to uni.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    It wasn't the best time for me to be honest. The economic recession had me move in with my grandmother and then her breast cancer came out of remission so I spent the latter half of the year taking care of her until she passed. Her passing and the usual family fight over a deceased persons money ripped that side of the family apart...

    Then my highschool crush briefly popped back into my life out of nowhere only to tell me for some reason that she discovered she really has a thing for muscular guys (I'm short and thin lol)

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    I was struggling in college. Substitute teaching part time, and playing a whole lot of dungeons and dragons.

    I was also realizing that I was not a man.

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  • I was poor as hell, living in an above garage apartment. Got married that year.

    Still together and less poor now, so some things have improved.

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    Im a current underground raver across the and thats a sick af experience. sadly we dont have crazy multi day raves where i am but thats because they'd get popped if we threw in a bando past daylight

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    I don't think parties like that can still happen here tbh, the government really cracked down on squatters over the last 15 years, night clubs too, so many nightclubs here have lost their licences and closed over noise complaints.

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  • I remember two things from the year 2008. A SpongeBob themed birthday cake, and my cousin being an infant at the time.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

    January 2008 was chill times for most. Not good, since the shit show in Iraq and Afghanistan was ongoing. By August, the world was on fire as people lost homes, their life savings, etc.

    For me? My wife and I noticed the extreme volatility in the stock market and started to day trade a handful of stock. For many, including myself, the 2008 crash was the end of struggle and the start of prosperity as we feast on the rotting corpses of greedy corporations that got caught on their feet and their trousers around their ankles when the music stopped. By 2009, with the money from day trading, we were able to buy a forclosed house (shithole) cash, fixed it up and used the proceeds to pay off our mortgage and the rest of our considerable debt. Not having debt allowed us to take risks with our careers and we soon had a successful IT consulting firm. 2008 literally broke the chains of our financial slavery.

    PS: Happy Birthday

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    i am hoping to make that my reality soon, with the massive bubble that has formed/is forming, kinda feel bad but after i learned how the markets work i have made more in 3 months than i made working for 3 years.

    shits so fucking stupid, all these rich cunts gambling with $ they don't need on stuff they don't understand instead of just paying a little more in taxes.

    got a big play setting up right now that should shoot me to multi-millionaire status overnight...biotech is like the heroin of the industry, was little surreal at first (cause everyone seems to have horror story of being very sure on a biotech play, and losing everything as a result) but it just gets more and more sure as time goes on...

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    i was a fetus in january of 2008

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    January 2008 I was failing as a student, failing to work enough to support myself, in debt to my roommate and sliding my way towards a stint of homelessness that thankfully would only last the summer.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    I believe I was with my husband then. Depends on time of year. I was with him, but not living with him until like February of that year. Cause December 07 is the anniversary things. So 20 years soon.

    I was working then which was nice. Wish I could again.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    Mostly, getting catfished on WoW

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    Working at radio shack and serving at a kinda nice Italian restaurant. Also somehow found a way to go to community college full time. I remember taking 30 minute naps almost on command.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    Wasn't terrible, wasn't great, but I was younger. Cherish your youth.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    I was 5 years married, 12 years out of high school. I was still young and stupid and didn't understand how the world worked yet. But for the most part life was good at least better than now. Future felt hopeful and promosing.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    There was the housing crisis that hurt people's money a bit. A lot was more affordable. Overall there was more hope and anticipation for the future.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    I was probably playing on that old Nintendo I borrowed from someone. It was old even back then. I was not quite on the internet yet I think, might have been playing Miniclip flashgames, found out Newgrounds, and discovered things that would have been better if not.

    I wanted AI allies in Starcraft, so I rigged together what would look like allies, from what limited things I can do with the scenario editor.

    I had all sorts of great ideas, but I also started to become more and more aware that I had to do something. I was a hyper kid that could not sit still, and caused problems all the time.

    They claimed I was suicidal, so I spent time waiting in the cold to be sent over a bus to the capital city, so they could pump me full of drugs and break me, and I would never be the same since.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    Many happy returns, sorry you had to be born into this post 9/11 mess.

    I was in college, in the process of discovering a lot of things. It was a very formative year for me and I don’t necessarily regret my choices but I wish I’d have had some more discipline during that time.

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