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[–] 98 points 9 months ago (1 child)

Carrying your documents around seems like a great way to have them stolen from you during your 'arrest'. You'd be lucky to see them again.

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    [–] 89 points 9 months ago

    You NEED to Comply with These Unknown Heavily Armed Men otherwise they have EVERY LEGAL RIGHT to KILL YOU!

    -People who Complained about Rights during Covid!

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  • [–] 85 points 9 months ago

    Most of them can't read or function at a adult level. They get paid by the kidnapping so they don't care enough to look for proof.

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  • [–] 79 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Because they don’t give a shit whether you’re you’re a US citizen or not. They just want to hurt brown people.

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    [–] 58 points 9 months ago

    They have arrest quotas, not identification quotas. They don't care.

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  • [–] 50 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    I dont know why they even mention the bit about criminal history. It would be no less heinous if she did have a criminal record.

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  • [–] 40 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    It's because the justification that the Administration keeps giving is that they are getting "criminals" off the streets. So it's worth in these articles when ICE picks up citizens who have no criminal record. It directly illustrates how they lie.

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  • [–] 19 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

    I just wish we would stop letting fascist dictate the language thats used. We should stop playing into the performance of what they're doing. Don't afford it ant legitimacy. There's no contradiction in their behavior, because nothing they say is real. What is real is their hatred for minorities. What is real is their fascist takeover of the country. And the mass targeting of racialized minorities.

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  • [–] 13 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    The problem is that, as US government officials, their words matter. Their official statements are newsworthy, even if they are lies. The media can't really ignore what they say. They can, however, illustrate when they are lying, even if this Administration throws a hissy-fit over it.

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Its just that in doing so you are legitimizing what they say to begin with. By pointing out the contradictions over and over you aren't actually swaying them or any of their followers. Because they're bigots. They're white supremacists. It was never about anything else. They want to deport minorities. They want a white ethnostate.

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  • [–] 9 points 9 months ago*

    I think you are confusing the legitimacy of their positions and their message. Their positions are legitimate because, unfortunately, they gained their positions legitimately, either through elections or some other documented process. That's on us, ultimately. That makes what they have to say a matter of public record, and newsworthy. (There are a handful of Administration positions that are illegitimate, such as all these acting US attorneys, and the Courts are dealing with that separately.)

    The message is utter bullshit, and at least in some cases, not what their voters intended when they cast their vote. But how will those voters ever know if the message is never challenged in the first place?

    I believe it is possible to report the Administration's positions, while also attempting to hold them to account. The alternative is for the media to ignore it altogether. But we all know Conservative media won't do that. If other media simply refuses to cover the Administration entirely, that doesn't invalidate their message. Only by letting us know what they are saying, as well as how bonkers it all is, do we have any chance of emerging from this.

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  • [–] 39 points 9 months ago (14 children)

    Lol omg. Imagine living in a country where you have to carry citizen paperwork around or get fucked over because you're a different colour. What a shithole.

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  • [–] 19 points 9 months ago (9 children)

    Welcome back to Nazi Germany, because that's what the country that used to be the Land of the Free is turning into.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    All those years the Americans spent bragging about defeating the Nazis only to then become the Nazis. What a timeline.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago*

    I'm not bragging, I hate the fact that what was once a free country is turning into Nazi Germany. Complete with the Gestapo randomly kicking in people's doors and kidnapping or in some cases even straight-up killing them in the open.

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  • [+] -8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children)

    Whoever told you that was your enemy

    Edit: you folk don't listen to much RATM huh?

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  • [–] -1 points 9 months ago* (2 children)

    Whoever told you the opposite was your actual enemy

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  • [–] 9 points 9 months ago* (2 children)

    What paper work? The birth certificates from the 80s here are like a piece of construction paper. No one is going to believe that is real.

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  • [–] 141 points 9 months ago (16 children)

    Do the Americans not realise that.. like every single one of them going back 4-5 generations are immigrants? Very few native Americans are out there because of immigration.

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  • [–] 77 points 9 months ago

    Just as most Americans who have moved to other countries refuse to call themselves immigrants, and default to calling themselves "expats", most don't seem to get that, no.

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  • [–] 44 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Too many Americans think "immigrant" is just a synonym for "not white".

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  • [+] 14 points 9 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] 14 points 9 months ago*

    Most Americans realize this, but our government doesn't give a shit what we think right now. Trump and the GOP are not representing us.

    Look at Greenland. 75% of Americans oppose what Trump is doing with that topic. That's disgustingly low, too... But still, he does it anyway.

    This isn't new. Most Americans have no agency. We're just a few notches above slave labor at this phase. All we can do is vote, but the wealthy are influencing those votes all over the country with money and propaganda.

    For every sane person speaking out, there's two to three others that have given up on everything. They'll just watch the news and do what it says. Or, worse, a massive percentage of Americans don't do anything. They don't vote, they just take it because they've given up completely on everything outside the ongoing crisis that is their lives.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    100%, my family only came to this god awful country to escape the Holocaust before it began. I find it absolutely absurd that now we have decided to shut our border. Even crazier is they keep saying they want legal immigration yet they make it impossible to do so.

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  • [–] 32 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    when ICE decides you look like an immigrant.

    Not surprising they have all sorts of Aryanisms as they seek to carve out a white ethnostate.

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  • [–] 27 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Not only that, but they have an app that is supposed to help them figure out your status using facial recognition. They are admitting that they only harass people who their app thinks looks un-American. And they believe their app even if you have valid documents that say otherwise.

    https://www.npr.org/2025/11/08/nx-s1-5585691/ice-facial-recognition-immigration-tracking-spyware

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  • [–] 31 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    There are plenty of illegal Caucasians from eastern Europe. Basically untouched by the US version of the SS and NKVD.

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  • [–] 29 points 9 months ago

    What’s worse is that ICE is just a bunch of untrained hicks with a badge

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  • [–] 28 points 9 months ago

    2 days detention for a Kavanaugh stop, huh? I think we should add up all the time citizens have spent detained because of blatant racism like this and then the man himself can sit in a shit hole jail for that length of time until he stops being too white to consider that other humans deserve better. I insist all his food contain spice levels not safe for white people to consume.

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  • [–] 23 points 9 months ago

    You can't negotiate with terrorists. They aren't there for a legitimate purpose. ICE is a Run-Hide-Fight encounter.

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  • [–] 54 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    "Carry your social security card!"

    Why, so they can just rip it in half and call it fake documents? Pass. Just fuckin illegally arrest me and let's get it over with.

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  • [–] 14 points 9 months ago

    Lol nevermind, we have a whole rl documentation with Germany on what leads to what and still people think it will be different for them.

    That's why I am convinced the US will go through terrible times until it can get better.

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  • [–] 10 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    i wonder when perceived immigrants are forced to wear somekind of mark on them, maybe a star.

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago (8 children)

    Well there is one uniquely American form of ID that guarantees protection from ICE...

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    My first thought was a gun, that's pretty American, and if you show them how American you are they are less likely to want to try to arrest you

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Ohhhhhh yeah that makes sense, they're only really happy with easy targets in overwhelming force because they're cowardly c***s. Gun probably scares them off.

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago

    Normal law enforcement slows their fucking roll when they know you are armed, but ICE is made up entirely of those unqualified to be cops. The stupid, belligerent, racist, insecure losers are what they are made up of. Still, even the stupid jackboot pig doesn't want to tangle with someone who can actually fight back. They are cowards. That's why they focus on women and children if there are few of them. I have yet to see them go after any man with less than six of their bitch asses.

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago

    Cavanaugh stops!

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  • [–] 11 points 9 months ago (7 children)

    There is no incentive to comply. They want violence. Give them violence. They are going to kill you either way.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    And I'm sure we'll be seeing you on the front lines actively fighting against ICE...

    Unless you're part of the Black Panthers, I find these Internet tough guy comments laughable and even I who have went to the No Kings protests carrying, I'm not going to be fighting multiple ICE agents if they ask for papers please on my minority ass.

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago* (2 children)

    I'm not really sure what this comment was trying to do. I'm scared like anyone else. My fight or flight response is geared heavily toward stand-still-and-hope-their-vision-is-based-on-movement, so unless I'm fighting a t-rex I'm hosed.

    I'm not pretending I'm all powerful. I'm stating compliance is nonsensical.

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  • [+] -8 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    My fight or flight response is geared heavily toward stand-still-and-hope-their-vision-is-based-on-movement, so unless I’m fighting a t-rex I’m hosed.

    I’m not pretending I’m all powerful. I’m stating compliance is nonsensical.

    Oh for fucks sake there Internet Bravado, you might not have understood what my point was damn you sure as hell proved it.

    Don't go around telling others to fight and die when you aren't willing to do so yourself.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    I'm not Jason Bourne. I'm some dude on the internet. And you don't fight hoping solely for your benefit. You fight so those who follow have better odds.

    If it makes you feel any better, I already know what's coming for me here. I'm part of a population that will absolutely end up in a mass grave before this ends.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    You wont win against the most expensive military in the world. The only option I see is a general strike.

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  • [–] 15 points 9 months ago

    Because they don’t give a shit whether you’re you’re a US citizen or not. They just want to hurt brown people.

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    Fascists and capitalists have only been defeated historically through force. Communists have historically been voted out of power.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Incidentally, "electoralism" is a bad word in communist circles. I wonder if there is a correlation between encouraging to not participate in electoral process, and being left out of the outcome of it

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    I wonder if there is a correlation between encouraging to not participate in electoral process, and being left out of the outcome of it

    There often is. Leftists encourage people to not participate in a capitalist system because most of the major parties in capitalist countries, even ones that claim to be diametrically opposed to each other, are very often near-identical in practice, and simply voting in such a system without a strong socialist component is never, ever, ever enough to bring about meaningful change in a sensible time span.

    Electoralism isn't a bad word in leftwing circles at all. Countries where left-leaning parties have a reasonable chance of success see leftists absolutely flocking to the polls to help.

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago*

    Don't lump together people from different countries and different situations, they have nothing to do with each other.
    American "leftists" have this quite unique propensity to understand less than nothing about political action. They sit around waiting for a good candidate to appear out of nothing, doing absolutely nothing to help anyone who can one day be this candidate they like, and then every 4 years bitch that candidates they didn't knew about two months ago aren't their perfect idea of a lefty.
    Countries where left-leaning parties have a reasonable chance of success are countries where left-leaning people were doing politics, as candidates, as activists, and as voters. They were voting for and partnering with anyone human-shaped to form coalitions and to get their candidates into political positions that allowed those candidates to get more political power that they used to get into better political positions. If at any gathering of any sucessful left-leaning party anyone suggests that the party shouldn't actually vote in this upcoming election because neither of candidates isn't their favourite version of reincarnated Marx, that person would be thrown out for being an idiot, or bitchslapped for being a fucking paid troll-agitator.
    Anyone in US who didn't vote for 99% Hitler over 101% Hitler is personally responsible for every death that occurred on those 2% of difference. And for every difference in those percentages their hands becomes more bloody.
    In democracy the only political agents are citizens, they decide what future they create, using what improper instruments they left with.

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