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Because they don’t give a shit whether you’re you’re a US citizen or not. They just want to hurt brown people.
Fascists and capitalists have only been defeated historically through force. Communists have historically been voted out of power.
Incidentally, "electoralism" is a bad word in communist circles. I wonder if there is a correlation between encouraging to not participate in electoral process, and being left out of the outcome of it
I wonder if there is a correlation between encouraging to not participate in electoral process, and being left out of the outcome of it
There often is. Leftists encourage people to not participate in a capitalist system because most of the major parties in capitalist countries, even ones that claim to be diametrically opposed to each other, are very often near-identical in practice, and simply voting in such a system without a strong socialist component is never, ever, ever enough to bring about meaningful change in a sensible time span.
Electoralism isn't a bad word in leftwing circles at all. Countries where left-leaning parties have a reasonable chance of success see leftists absolutely flocking to the polls to help.
Don't lump together people from different countries and different situations, they have nothing to do with each other.
American "leftists" have this quite unique propensity to understand less than nothing about political action. They sit around waiting for a good candidate to appear out of nothing, doing absolutely nothing to help anyone who can one day be this candidate they like, and then every 4 years bitch that candidates they didn't knew about two months ago aren't their perfect idea of a lefty.
Countries where left-leaning parties have a reasonable chance of success are countries where left-leaning people were doing politics, as candidates, as activists, and as voters. They were voting for and partnering with anyone human-shaped to form coalitions and to get their candidates into political positions that allowed those candidates to get more political power that they used to get into better political positions. If at any gathering of any sucessful left-leaning party anyone suggests that the party shouldn't actually vote in this upcoming election because neither of candidates isn't their favourite version of reincarnated Marx, that person would be thrown out for being an idiot, or bitchslapped for being a fucking paid troll-agitator.
Anyone in US who didn't vote for 99% Hitler over 101% Hitler is personally responsible for every death that occurred on those 2% of difference. And for every difference in those percentages their hands becomes more bloody.
In democracy the only political agents are citizens, they decide what future they create, using what improper instruments they left with.
probably why alot of "leftists" dont vote, cant really say sht about communism if your not even choosing one that is close to it.
Carrying your documents around seems like a great way to have them stolen from you during your 'arrest'. You'd be lucky to see them again.
You NEED to Comply with These Unknown Heavily Armed Men otherwise they have EVERY LEGAL RIGHT to KILL YOU!
-People who Complained about Rights during Covid!
Most of them can't read or function at a adult level. They get paid by the kidnapping so they don't care enough to look for proof.
Because they don’t give a shit whether you’re you’re a US citizen or not. They just want to hurt brown people.
I dont know why they even mention the bit about criminal history. It would be no less heinous if she did have a criminal record.
It's because the justification that the Administration keeps giving is that they are getting "criminals" off the streets. So it's worth in these articles when ICE picks up citizens who have no criminal record. It directly illustrates how they lie.
I just wish we would stop letting fascist dictate the language thats used. We should stop playing into the performance of what they're doing. Don't afford it ant legitimacy. There's no contradiction in their behavior, because nothing they say is real. What is real is their hatred for minorities. What is real is their fascist takeover of the country. And the mass targeting of racialized minorities.
The problem is that, as US government officials, their words matter. Their official statements are newsworthy, even if they are lies. The media can't really ignore what they say. They can, however, illustrate when they are lying, even if this Administration throws a hissy-fit over it.
Its just that in doing so you are legitimizing what they say to begin with. By pointing out the contradictions over and over you aren't actually swaying them or any of their followers. Because they're bigots. They're white supremacists. It was never about anything else. They want to deport minorities. They want a white ethnostate.
I think you are confusing the legitimacy of their positions and their message. Their positions are legitimate because, unfortunately, they gained their positions legitimately, either through elections or some other documented process. That's on us, ultimately. That makes what they have to say a matter of public record, and newsworthy. (There are a handful of Administration positions that are illegitimate, such as all these acting US attorneys, and the Courts are dealing with that separately.)
The message is utter bullshit, and at least in some cases, not what their voters intended when they cast their vote. But how will those voters ever know if the message is never challenged in the first place?
I believe it is possible to report the Administration's positions, while also attempting to hold them to account. The alternative is for the media to ignore it altogether. But we all know Conservative media won't do that. If other media simply refuses to cover the Administration entirely, that doesn't invalidate their message. Only by letting us know what they are saying, as well as how bonkers it all is, do we have any chance of emerging from this.
Lol omg. Imagine living in a country where you have to carry citizen paperwork around or get fucked over because you're a different colour. What a shithole.
no no, that "or" should be an "and" -- having paperwork doesn't save you from getting fucked over
Welcome back to Nazi Germany, because that's what the country that used to be the Land of the Free is turning into.
This time, without trains on time though.
All those years the Americans spent bragging about defeating the Nazis only to then become the Nazis. What a timeline.
Whoever told you that was your enemy
Edit: you folk don't listen to much RATM huh?
Whoever told you the opposite was your actual enemy
Oh geeze I guess I just don't know my enemy.
What paper work? The birth certificates from the 80s here are like a piece of construction paper. No one is going to believe that is real.
Do the Americans not realise that.. like every single one of them going back 4-5 generations are immigrants? Very few native Americans are out there because of immigration.
Just as most Americans who have moved to other countries refuse to call themselves immigrants, and default to calling themselves "expats", most don't seem to get that, no.
Too many Americans think "immigrant" is just a synonym for "not white".
When those immigrants were coming to the US, they were not considered "white". Sometimes the discrimination was because of skin colour, sometimes it was religion. But, they weren't considered to have the morals and work ethic of the English-descended protestants that dominated the USA.
The people calling for these atrocities and committing them are white supremacists. What is happening is exactly what they want to happen.
native Americans
Even they are being snatched off streets and "detained".
Not to mention that ICE is frequently abducting Native Americans because they're brown
They’re arresting and detaining the actual native Americans too. Because they really want a Christo-fascist white state, not a native one.
That’s why they want to import the racists from South Africa.
Most Americans realize this, but our government doesn't give a shit what we think right now. Trump and the GOP are not representing us.
Look at Greenland. 75% of Americans oppose what Trump is doing with that topic. That's disgustingly low, too... But still, he does it anyway.
This isn't new. Most Americans have no agency. We're just a few notches above slave labor at this phase. All we can do is vote, but the wealthy are influencing those votes all over the country with money and propaganda.
For every sane person speaking out, there's two to three others that have given up on everything. They'll just watch the news and do what it says. Or, worse, a massive percentage of Americans don't do anything. They don't vote, they just take it because they've given up completely on everything outside the ongoing crisis that is their lives.
This is the 21st century version of Manifest Destiny. Their immigrant status doesn't matter because they're white and therefore superior.
It's not about imigration. Only brown and black are "imigrants".
...although even white women are being killed now
100%, my family only came to this god awful country to escape the Holocaust before it began. I find it absolutely absurd that now we have decided to shut our border. Even crazier is they keep saying they want legal immigration yet they make it impossible to do so.
when ICE decides you look like an immigrant.
Not surprising they have all sorts of Aryanisms as they seek to carve out a white ethnostate.
Not only that, but they have an app that is supposed to help them figure out your status using facial recognition. They are admitting that they only harass people who their app thinks looks un-American. And they believe their app even if you have valid documents that say otherwise.
https://www.npr.org/2025/11/08/nx-s1-5585691/ice-facial-recognition-immigration-tracking-spyware
There are plenty of illegal Caucasians from eastern Europe. Basically untouched by the US version of the SS and NKVD.
2 days detention for a Kavanaugh stop, huh? I think we should add up all the time citizens have spent detained because of blatant racism like this and then the man himself can sit in a shit hole jail for that length of time until he stops being too white to consider that other humans deserve better. I insist all his food contain spice levels not safe for white people to consume.
You can't negotiate with terrorists. They aren't there for a legitimate purpose. ICE is a Run-Hide-Fight encounter.
Fucking thank you!!
"Carry your social security card!"
Why, so they can just rip it in half and call it fake documents? Pass. Just fuckin illegally arrest me and let's get it over with.
Passport is the best option.
Lol nevermind, we have a whole rl documentation with Germany on what leads to what and still people think it will be different for them.
That's why I am convinced the US will go through terrible times until it can get better.
i wonder when perceived immigrants are forced to wear somekind of mark on them, maybe a star.
Well there is one uniquely American form of ID that guarantees protection from ICE...
It's being white, isn't it
My first thought was a gun, that's pretty American, and if you show them how American you are they are less likely to want to try to arrest you
Ohhhhhh yeah that makes sense, they're only really happy with easy targets in overwhelming force because they're cowardly c***s. Gun probably scares them off.
Normal law enforcement slows their fucking roll when they know you are armed, but ICE is made up entirely of those unqualified to be cops. The stupid, belligerent, racist, insecure losers are what they are made up of. Still, even the stupid jackboot pig doesn't want to tangle with someone who can actually fight back. They are cowards. That's why they focus on women and children if there are few of them. I have yet to see them go after any man with less than six of their bitch asses.
You're allowed to say cunt on the Internet.
There is no incentive to comply. They want violence. Give them violence. They are going to kill you either way.
And I'm sure we'll be seeing you on the front lines actively fighting against ICE...
Unless you're part of the Black Panthers, I find these Internet tough guy comments laughable and even I who have went to the No Kings protests carrying, I'm not going to be fighting multiple ICE agents if they ask for papers please on my minority ass.
I'm not really sure what this comment was trying to do. I'm scared like anyone else. My fight or flight response is geared heavily toward stand-still-and-hope-their-vision-is-based-on-movement, so unless I'm fighting a t-rex I'm hosed.
I'm not pretending I'm all powerful. I'm stating compliance is nonsensical.
My fight or flight response is geared heavily toward stand-still-and-hope-their-vision-is-based-on-movement, so unless I’m fighting a t-rex I’m hosed.
I’m not pretending I’m all powerful. I’m stating compliance is nonsensical.
Oh for fucks sake there Internet Bravado, you might not have understood what my point was damn you sure as hell proved it.
Don't go around telling others to fight and die when you aren't willing to do so yourself.
I'm not Jason Bourne. I'm some dude on the internet. And you don't fight hoping solely for your benefit. You fight so those who follow have better odds.
If it makes you feel any better, I already know what's coming for me here. I'm part of a population that will absolutely end up in a mass grave before this ends.
You wont win against the most expensive military in the world. The only option I see is a general strike.
Well the economic desperation is certainly on the horizon. People are held back by their finances and jobs right now. When they cant meet their needs any more, they wont hold back.

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