You may be unaware of the americans dying in the streets. Ice murdered a baby yesterday. Americans are occupied, mentally and otherwise

You'll also notice that palestine is still being genocided. It's the news cycle. It happens.

I’m seeing posts. I don’t know what you’re talking about. I have little respect for “where are all the posts?” posts. It’s complaining that everyone else isn’t doing it for you. Someone has to sit down and post those posts. Maybe for this, since you obviously care, it’s you. Instead you’re shitting on everyone else for not already having done it.

My personal problem with this is that we're not talking about ANY country but specifically about the current US admin which has recently, shitting on all international rules, declared itself to be above international law and kidnapped an foreign leader (yes, he was dictator, but for international laws to be valuable they must treat EVERYONE equal... not only the ones deemed worthy by the biggest bully in the yard). Since this isn't the first wave of protests but the first one to, apparently, get inhumanely bloody in this magnitude one obvious key factor differing this one from the previous ones is the openly hostile and antidemocratic US admin taking power one year ago.

Taking this factors into consideration it seems highly questionable weather these protests will lead to an overall better situation for the Iranian people... and this outcome would be the only one justifying the blood shed.

People don't want to repeat their mistake of blindly cheering revolutions just for them to turn into even worse dictatorships afterwards... like it happened in many countries after Arabian spring. Hence the skepticism and caution in my eyes is more a sign of an ability to learn from past mistakes... especially since this time a foreign nation isn't ,,secondarily involved" but repeatedly made actual threats to destabilize the nation in question and is actively threatening with war, not for the people but to fill its own pockets and demonstrate its power.

More like once a week, but yes.

The Hatian revolution didn't really succeed either. Dessalines basically just re-enslaved everyone but they all started to slowly starve because nobody would trade with them after the rampage.

Its funny since lots of revolutions only really succeeded due to another state actor involved.

Everyone give it up for America's favorite fighting Frenchman!

Honestly, I think that's true for most of them.

Good for them for fighting, you wet towel.

I guess we can't all be as smart as you.

Not saying they are totally happy. But this is because of 20+ years of economic and financial sanctions by Europe and the USA for the crime of supporting Palestine.

Sanctions have become even more extreme after Trump pulled out of JCPOA in 2018 and applied 'maximum pressure" sanctions package.

I am impressed with how Iranians have protested en mass. It puts western so called democracies to Shame. But you have to be real that Israel doesn't care about democracy. It wants.Iran to be broken up unto a dozen statelets that it can bomb at will like Syria.

This is scheming by the US Empire.

Tankies are gonna tankie, that's nothing new. There are plenty of leftists siding with the Iranian revolutionaries on Lemmy, so what the OP says (that leftists in general are silent on Iran) is false. Unless they're specifically talking about tankies, but nowhere do I see them making that distinction.

Yeah, I've been there before. But if it looks like the same it's because of the USA government's rancid recipes. They do the same everywhere, and everybody knows.

I don't take those numbers as facts, that's all. Don't presume you know me. The 10000 figure of dead people was plain misinformation, even taking the source as true.

I thought the contingency here of leftists and liberals was pretty high?

There aren't really that many tankies, they are just extremely vocal. I suspect a lot of them are actually alt accounts too.

Plenty of real socialists. Just filter grad, ml, and Hexbear, and the ratio much improves.

I agree it's fucked up what Khamenei is doing. Even before the protests the government had some awful policies when it came to human rights of the Iranian people. The protestors have every right to be angry and fuck shit up.

But judging by their slogans, a lot of them are aligning themselves with their fundamental enemies - imperialists whose sanctions have led the country to its current economic state.

Unless a revolution is staunchly anti-imperialist, it is bound to be co-opted by the US to set up a puppet government and extract as much labor & resources as they can muster, by any means necessary. Remember that the last time the Shah came to power, the protests were founded in real issues and grievances of the population, and look at the outcome. Look at the outcome for Syria or almost any Arab Spring country. I guess for many Iranians getting US to support them seems like the only way to win, in which case it's a real catch-22. Maybe it will turn out that this iteration of the monarchist government will be slightly better than the clerical one, but looking at the state of US right now it's unlikely.

I am heartbroken about this whole thing, because those people are clearly fighting for a better future for themselves, and they're getting slaughtered for it. But it is likely that their sacrifice will be for nothing.

I tagged them as a Nazi apologist for this comment: https://lemmy.world/comment/21335416