[Watch] As ICE agents surged into Minneapolis, they found actual road ice to be more than a match for their wits and driving skill.

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[–] 7 points 10 months ago

Something something Germany Russia WWII something cough cough

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    more than a match for their wits

    Their match is cold concrete, and they are losing.

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  • [–] [S] 0 points 10 months ago

    I thought about riffing on that line from No Country for Old Men there, "even between man and steer, the contest is uncertain."

    It was so close to being a joke, but like ICE, I got stuck about 5 yards from my starting point and gave up

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago

    There are several good video clips in that article.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago*

    Death squadrons' war against winter.

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    [–] 121 points 10 months ago* (22 children)

    I don't see what the big deal is. Go slow and leave plenty of following distance. Fucking duh. They used our money to buy themselves giant 4x4 suburbans and even with every advantage they can't drive in winter conditions? Pathetic

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  • [–] 74 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    “Instructions unclear. Shot the ice, shoveled as much of it into the back of the van as possible.”

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  • [–] 34 points 10 months ago (14 children)

    A 4x4 will give you extra power. But not extra stopping power. My guess is they assume that they could just drive normal due to this.

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  • [–] 35 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    As one would expect from the common dumbass who drives a full size SUV. And before anyone gets a bruised ego, no, not everyone who drives a full size SUV is a dumbass. But it would seem that most of them are.

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  • [–] 18 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Basically everyone in a full size suv is a dumbass. Most people use them as a daily commuter when a sedan would be just fine. Given the added purchase cost, maintenance costs, and fuel costs they might as well just be burning money.

    Reminds me of how my dad is obsessed with wanting a SUV large enough that he can tow with. He hasn't towed anything outside of work ever. He's going to buy a car that's way more expensive and costs more in gas so he could theoretically one day tow something. Man doesn't even own a trailer

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  • [–] 13 points 10 months ago (6 children)

    Saw a used car with AWD for sale with the ad saying that AWD is better for acceleration, cornering AND stopping in slippery conditions.

    I honestly wanted to ring the dude up and ask how it would help with the stopping, given that it's heavier than the RWD version of the same car and they both have exactly 4 wheels worth of braking power.

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  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    Manual drives are more common here, when you brake on the engine 4 wheels are decelerating instead of 2 so that could help.

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago

    No car only brakes with only two wheels. All four wheels are used when the brake pedal is pressed.

    And in any case, using brakes with ABS is still better than engine braking without ABS when stopping in any condition, but especially on snow or ice

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago*

    But engine braking doesn't stop your car fast enough to even worry about traction much. And if you do lose traction with engine braking, I don't think ABS can help you like with actual braking.

    It was also xDrive so the front axle is only powered when rear wheels start slipping AFAIK.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago*

    I'm not an expert or anything, but wouldn't engine breaking have the same breaking force (just spread across all wheels) for 4 wheel drive as 2 wheel drive? Unlike break pads, where it's one per wheel, engine breaking will all be running through the same engine.

    Still, having it one 4 instead of 2 has advantages, but I don't think it'd be more force.

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  • [–] 84 points 10 months ago (8 children)

    It's like an unwritten law that if you can get someone get unstuck, you do.

    You would have to be incredibly disliked to be heckled after getting stuck.

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  • [–] 29 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    Lived here most of my life, there is no like about it. Everybody can be at the mercy of the weather and if you can help somebody you do. I've had strangers help me twice with shovels, sand in their car, pushing etc. You would have to be a massive dickhead for people to not help you, and a despicable kind of human to be heckled for it.

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  • [–] 20 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    I was being very... Polite... With my descriptions.

    Another telling sign? The traffic passing by must have contained MAGA. It was, at least, alive in rural Minnesota. Those are the people who have the massive equipment nearly always.

    I don't know why they pass, but they clearly don't want to be recognized as the one who helped ICE out.

    I firmly believe Minnesota was targeted because of Walz and the fact that the state has never voted for a modern GOP presidential candidate. It's retribution. And if there is one thing I think even the MAGAts don't appreciate its when they are caught in the crossfire.

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Few of the maga folk I know here in MN are in disbelief of what the facists they voted for are doing, particularly in their own state. It's all I can do not to rub their noses in it and say I told you so. But I already know they are still voting GOP in the midterms and 2028 regardless so it's not like they've learned anything.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago*

    Be kind to them. Point out all the small things, and gently point to the fact that Republicans are still both enabling Trump and helping him. Then around elections just ask them to vote for literally anybody who's saying no to Trump. It's the best we can do.

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  • [–] [S] 6 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Yeah, lived here most my life, and while I've never gotten stuck where I needed the assist, I am that stranger with a shovel.

    For locals to not help is deeply non-normal and inhospitable behavior in the Midwest.

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  • [–] 57 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    I just love this:

    "So, if you find you get stuck in 3-inch-deep snow… for starters, don’t do that. That’s not much snow. It’s embarrassing to get stuck in so little.

    A few extremely basic notes:

    Don’t kick the gas pedal like these ICE agents are doing. Slow and steady.
    Turn on 4WD. Obviously.
    If you don’t have 4WD, whatever, you should be fine. It’s really not that much snow.
    

    If you’re stuck and can’t dig yourself out with the shovel you carry for this exact purpose, flag down a friendly Midwesterner to pull you out. Some flannel-clad hoonigan like me will happily pull you out with a rescue strap.

    This works way better if you don’t have a reputation for killing unarmed women in the city you’re in, so ICE might be SOL"

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  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago* (2 children)

    My damned Honda Fit can get out of 3" of snow

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    My old Chevy Cruze with shitty touring tires was okay until the snow got deep enough that it bottomed out on the snow. Its more driving skill and generally being willing to slow down a little and take it easy than your suspension or drivetrain that get you through the snow

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    Leave it to the Donald Administration not to recognize basic laws of physics and, maybe, the necessity to make logistical changes.

    Hopefully the next headline is about how an ICE vehicle slid off a cliff.

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Sadly Minnesota is mostly flat.

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  • [–] 19 points 10 months ago

    if you ever wondered where all those morons who can't drive and can't put the correct tiers on work...

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  • [–] 17 points 10 months ago* (1 child)

    Ice on ICE violence. Nazis on ice. The jokes write themselves

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  • [–] 14 points 10 months ago

    Earlier this morning I thought it was an article from The Onion. It is in fact, not.

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Hah yeah lived up north (Canadian so adjust perception of North and South) with a mustang (not gt but rwd), you gotta be careful on road ice hell even light but of snow can cause issues. I'll say I've driven with a few vehicles before that so knew how to handle better than the southern types when it snowed occasionally and used to see people in ditches on off/on roads to the highway. That was something I'll always remember, seeing those vehicles in the ditch, just hit the gas a bit too much.

    Like you don't even get people who know how to drive as a federal agency? Keystone politics. This may be only a single incident and never happen again, but only reason it's news is cause they're doing a blitzkrieg and can't even drive their cars. Sums up the entire administration.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    In Kentucky, it snows sometimes in the winter - just earlier today this morning it snowed a lot, and I mean A LOT a lot.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    I will preface I hope you and everyone around you is safe, lots of snow is no joke when driving. Not trying to one up you but I don't think Kentucky is the same as northern Canada outside odd conditions is all least not when I grew up. Mostly northern Canada winter is icy not lots of snow roads, cause we got lots of snow plows which sort of compact snow to ice it worse.

    I didn't mean to mean it didn't snow much elsewhere but used to snow in September and didn't thaw till spring...well late 80s mid 90s time era. Once it started you put the tires with studs on till least April or May sort of thing.

    Once drove threw fresh snow on the highway (early - mid 2000s) could just know where the highway was cause of the hump, besides the highway was ditches. Made it to the airport to rock out new years on the coast. Made sure to leave so I could drive 50kph the entire way just in case heh (normal city speed). Though the snow on highway stopped after about 300kms so could have been worse.

    Again hope everyone you know is safe and all, di fucking hate winter these days lol fuck northern weather.

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  • [–] 11 points 10 months ago* (7 children)

    Ok, there's a Field Office 5 minutes from my home, and I just had an idea. What's a super slick hard to remove liquid one might be able to pour on concrete? Preferably clear.

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  • [–] 10 points 10 months ago

    Absolutely fucking hilarious

    Imagine spending all of your effort trying to look like this badass gestapo and you get your shit handed to you by FROZEN FUCKING WATER

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  • [–] 19 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (6 children)

    Poor choice of tires and no chains. This might be a 2WD model

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  • [–] 37 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    We don't chain in MN. We're flat enough it isn't necessary. This is 4 inches of slush and shouldn't be a problem.

    If you're not allowed fascist asshole, folk will come out and help you when you get stuck.

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  • [–] 16 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Ah. I'm in Wyoming where no chains or 4WD equals a bad time.

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago* (1 child)

    This past early autumn, I was just in the Idaho/Montana/Wyoming region visiting Yellowstone and the Grand Tetons before the government shut down.

    What a gorgeous area. I really wish I was wealthy enough to keep a residence there. I've only been there once before as a child. The pictures don't really do it justice.

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago

    Fascists' ancient enemy: winter

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago

    I've hated ice before it was cool

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago

    Must be god at work, right?

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  • [–] -1 points 10 months ago* (5 children)

    Man that website sucks. None of the video players work, except the one showing the SUV stuck in snow! Probably because they're from shady sources like Instagram and Twitter and I've blocked that shit.

    Does anyone have mirrors to the remaining videos in the article?

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  • [–] [S] 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

    Man that website sucks.

    Bahaha, thanks!

    Yeah, I've got you, I think these links should work, but no guarantees if you're blocking videos or whatever:

    ICE agents on foot: https://packaged-media.redd.it/u9sa49vepecg1/pb/m2-res_386p.mp4?m=DASHPlaylist.mpd&v=1&e=1768176000&s=152a9299299efcc51ccb72b9386e8ca476d6196a

    ICE agent on foot solo: https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:ojwszrpcvhwuhl4nhwactd2y/post/3mc6ihtywic2r

    ICE agents all getting stuck on the same patch of ice: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8iWJkuVUG8

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    In the first video did one of those agents discharge their weapon when they fell or was that just some quirk of the video?

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 10 months ago

    Quirk of the video - he has a high power flashlight under the barrel, I think. Illumination looks like flash, but the lack of "flinch" tells me there was no loud sound when we see it.

    Oh and they didn't shoot 6 random bystanders, which I'm pretty sure they would.

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