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[–] 221 points 10 months ago (8 children)

Why would their names need to be secret? Aren't they public officials? Surely Marriott isn't admitting that they are secret police? Right?

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  • [–] 83 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    Marriott is owned by the Mormon church. I'll let you fill in the rest of the blanks.

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  • [–] 50 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    Marriott isn't owned by the Mormon church. The owners are Mormon who follow the church leaders.

    See it's different.

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  • [–] 58 points 10 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago

    I'll stop by and talk to David Marriott next chance I see him. I haven't seen him in almost 30 years when he gave me a ride from the Manchester UK Airport

    He was an asshat driver through. 1 star.

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  • [–] 189 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    Why is "doxxing" even a thing when we are talking about supposed public officials?

    Aren't we paying for these motherfuckers? Why do they get to remain anonymous while they walk around kidnapping and murdering Americans?

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  • [–] 15 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    These psychos used to get irrationally pissed off at people wearing masks, who were only trying to protect themselves and others from a deadly disease, but they don't say a word about these Jackals wearing masks to abuse their fellow citizens.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    It's quite interesting to see what really tips these conservative Karens into a blind fury.

    I remember hearing them constantly bitch about seeing people in their own cars wearing masks. Of course they have no context, they just thought that was soy boys being total pussies or overly compliant or whatever the fuck.

    They'd bitch that they couldn't understand people in masks. Of course you could usually hear people if you bothered to listen, but these bitchy Karens were upset that people were even acknowledging that there was a pandemic. They'd rather that everyone had just engaged in the same delusion Donvict wanted to engage in, which was to just ignore it for economic reasons in order to support Donvict....

    And now - after all the years where they concern-trolled about "government overreach" and "tyrannical government" they are just fine with the tyranny being done by people in masks.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (1 child)

    upset that people were even acknowledging that there was a pandemic.

    I think you hit the nail on the head here. For a lot of people, a "just universe fallacy" is how they need to navigate the world for it's the only way situations like a pandemic make sense. The idea, that anyone, anywhere, at any time, can befall tragic circumstances for no reason at all, is tantamount to an existential crisis. Instead, doubling down on the fiction that "there's no real threat so quit reminding me that there is one" is the only way to keep it together. It was never really about the masks themselves.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago

    Yeah, I think that's why lots of them spent a lot of time and energy on conspiracy theory and "doing their own research" (meaning, trading tall tales with people equally clueless about critical thinking).

    The notion that disease can just happen - these people also deny evolution so they struggle with this notion for sure - is anathema and threatens their world view. So of course it had to be a conspiracy - China is covering up Wuhan stuff, Fauci did it with "gain of function" research - and that's when they acknowledge the disease at all. When not doing endless arguing over the source they'd downplay the entire thing. It was "only" the old, it was "only" those with preconditions, and we all just need to "open everything back up" and "get back to work", and so on, even if millions have to die, because we must make the line go up.

    In addition to that, they'd spend lots of time complaining about "the clot shot" and instead do nearly anything but acknowledge that the experts actually know anything and have public safety in mind. Nope, everything is a conspiracy and experts are not really experts, so preventative things like social distancing, avoiding in-person things, doing remote learning and remote work, masking up and of course, the vaccine that was a modern-day moon shot is a big plot to get conservatives or whatever.

    So instead, they are resorting to bullshit medicine like HCQ and horse dewormer. Once the stupid train left the station, that's where it was bound to end up.

    I think what really, really broke their brains was the fact that they want to be able to follow and repeat narratives that Faux and Taco make up for them, and those are usually entirely unshakable. Except for something like the pandemic, combined with watching the market and job numbers go into freefall. No amount of spinning from Taco OR Bullshit Mountain was going to change that bedrock truth.

    And that infuriated not only a whole lot of redcaps, it drove Taco absolutely nuts. If there is something that the conservatives just cannot stand, it's when liberals are proven correct, and that was happening nearly every day during the peak of Covid.

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  • [–] 91 points 10 months ago

    that employee is a brave hero of the working class. i hope more and more people become willing to risk their jobs to fight fascism. fuck marriott hotels.

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  • [–] 80 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    "Doxxing ICE officers and agents puts them and their families at enormous risk,"

    Uhh yeah, thats the point you dingus.

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  • [–] 21 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    It's funny how doxxing a firefighter or a nurse would not put them and their families at enormous risk. Someone should study that…

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  • [–] 55 points 10 months ago* (1 child)

    It's not possible to "doxx" ICE agents. They are not secret agents, they are people who we the taxpayers paid for and their names are either public record or if they are not public record really ought to be.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago*

    It's possible to doxx the agents committing crimes though. You don't know who they are with their masks on when they commit the crimes.

    And well, that should be expected unless you want them to get away with crimes, in which case the criminality just goes up the chain.

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  • [–] 48 points 10 months ago

    How DARE that Employee let people know WHO Their TAX Dollars are going to!

    -Fiscally Responsible Conservatives!

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  • [–] 43 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    We do not discriminate against any individuals or agencies... We are committed to welcoming all guests.

    Even murderous secret police of a fascist state? That seems pretty high up on the list of people you should "discriminate against."

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  • [–] 42 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Anyone have the employee's contact info. They can come work for me for double.

    The twist: I manage a Marriott.

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  • [–] 41 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Willing to help them out, please let me know if a GoFundMe or something pops up

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  • [–] 38 points 10 months ago

    doxxing a public agent

    they really are doubling down on that secret police shit, huh?

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  • [–] 36 points 10 months ago

    Where is the gofundme link is the important question

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  • [–] 36 points 10 months ago (11 children)

    Back in the day the Gestapo were not scared to show their faces. Where is ICE's american white pride? /s

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  • [–] 25 points 10 months ago (8 children)

    OK, but in all seriousness...

    This is, genuinely, the difference between what's happening in America today, and what happened in Nazi Germany.

    There is, absolutely and without question, a fascist takeover of the US government in progress. But unlike what happened in Germany, that takeover is not popular. The fact that ICE have to hide their faces - the fact that they're ashamed or afraid to be known for what they're doing - is huge.

    While there were obviously many Germans who did resist the Nazis, on the whole the party was immensely popular. They were tapping into feelings that were borne - or at least accepted - by most of the populace.

    There's a great recent video by American historian Heather Cox Richardson where she and Joanne Freeman talk about how this is basically the last chance for Trump's admin to truly seize power. That's terrifying - because they really might do it - but it also reflects a very real opportunity. They can be stopped, and the tide is very rapidly turning against them. Renee Good's murder, in particular, has galvanized the country against ICE, and by extension Trump. It sucks that it took the murder of a white woman for Americans to give a shit, but they are giving a shit and that's what matters for now.

    Trump's goons are scared. That should tell every decent American that now is truly the time to push back harder than you ever have before.

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  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Authoritarians always crack down harder when they're losing their grip. That's what we're seeing now. Keep your feet on their necks, get out there, organize, vote, and we will win this!

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    organize, vote,

    A lot of people are going to get upset at you for including "vote" here, but you're absolutely correct, and those people really need to understand that these are not mutually exclusive imperatives.

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    That's because they have a doom kink, are addicted to losing, and desperately want to surrender the issue before it's even come up.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago*

    I will agree that defeatism is always appealing, because if nothing can be done then then you're no longer obligated to do anything. Expecting the worst is easier than fearing it, because without the chance of success you remove the dreadful element of the unknown.

    But with that said, I'd be hesitant to apply any of that to people who resist the idea of voting as a means for change. Many of them are actively seeking change, they just feel that it's wrong to even include voting in the conversation. And they're absolutely correct when they say that voting alone will never ever be the answer. That's an accurate and valid assessment. What I'm disagreeing with is solely the notion, which tends to spin out of that position, that we shouldn't even talk about voting. Voting matters, but it's only one tool in a toolkit. If all you have is voting then you're trying to solve everything with a hammer. But by the same token, you'd be an idiot to throw away your hammer just because you own fifteen other tools.

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Wasn't the height of Nazi popularity (at least vote wise) something like 30%? They got a plurality of the vote and steamrolled from there because of how the Wiemar Republic system worked but they weren't the majority, at least until it was actively detrimental to not be part of the party.

    If that's some remnant of Clean Wehrmacht or similar mythology bouncing around in my head I apologize.

    It's also just a very different environment. It was very cumbersome to take a picture in the 1930s. Now we have movie theater quality video with stereo audio disseminated worldwide within minutes of a thing happening, if it's not live.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago

    Wasn’t the height of Nazi popularity (at least vote wise) something like 30%?

    Keep in mind we're talking about a political system where coalition governments are far more common. It's not the two party system the US is used to, so votes aren't a measure of "popularity" per se. What I mean by that is you can have plenty of people who don't vote for a party, simply because there's another choice they like better out of the fairly wide array of options, but that doesn't mean they actively dislike every option they didn't vote for just that it wasn't their first choice. On top of that, the Nazis were very smart about putting in place policies that improved the lives of average working Germans (you know, the ones they liked), and they made sure to start out by targeting the minority groups that people least liked, or cared about, before taking their crackdowns wider.

    This has been one of Trump's major misplays. They went in with their immigration crackdown, which should have slotted neatly into that same zone of "Going after the minority groups people least liked" but in order to hit Trump's outlandish target numbers they had to start rounding up the immigrants that everyone actually likes. Turns out for the most part Americans actually really like Abdul who runs the corner shop and gives them extra meat on their delhi sandwich, and they really like Eduardo who does their landscaping and is always on time and super polite, and the immigrants they hate are mostly just fictions made up by Fox News. Whereas Jewish people in Nazi Germany really were pretty actively disliked by a very broad swathe of the populace (the roots of European antisemitism go back millennia), so there was a lot less resistance to the concept as a whole.

    It was very cumbersome to take a picture in the 1930s.

    Yes, but you're also not travelling as far from your home neighbourhood to do your job as any kind of cop or government agent. So a lot of the people around you are going to recognise you that evening at the bar or grocery store. People generally moved in smaller circles.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    30% is still a lot

    IIRC, Trump received votes from about 1/3 of the voting populace including those eligible and didn't bother to cast a vote

    From what I remember in US History, about 1/3 of the populace wanted a revolution, 1/3 wanted to remain loyal to the king, and 1/3 didn't care. We are currently around that territory with Trump.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago

    German fascists rise to power was also not as popular as the Nazis would have you believe. They did plenty of ginning up of the historical record.

    Prior to reforming the SA into the Gestapo and using them to crack down on socialism/communism/labour solidarity the Nazis were in a tenuous position. They held the levers of power and they won some elections, but so did the Republicans

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago

    Did you think that the Gestapo would have permitted random people to take their pictures and run away?
    The ability to spread images and video online nearly instantly has changed the dynamics somewhat.

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  • [–] 57 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    Should've been given a medal. Nobel Peace Prize. Hear that, Trump? A hotel worker deserves the Nobel Peace Prize more than you do!

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  • [–] 17 points 10 months ago

    In all honesty then nearly every human deserves it more than that orange child rapist.

    A drunk driver who killed a person with their car has caused less death and devastation than the bungling orange sicko.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago

    The only reason my casino bankrupted was to teach lessons. I give so much when I teach these lessons, I brought my offspring today, you can ogle them, but they're very expensive. The hotel workers, very strong, pitiful people.

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  • [–] 26 points 10 months ago

    Someone should start a "Go Fund Me" for the worker.

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  • [–] 26 points 10 months ago

    if a legitimate gofundme is found, please link it under this comment

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  • [–] 25 points 10 months ago (7 children)

    Well damn - I was looking to book a hotel at a location I’ve historically booked with Hilton. But since they’re out now, Marriott properties were on the short list but I guess they’re out now too.

    Is this going to end up being one of those situations where all the players in the market are awful?

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    Independent hotels and inns might be the move

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Hate to break it you bud, but those haven't existed for about about two decades now.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago

    there's a lot less of them, that's true

    nobody said it would be easy to avoid the nazis. you might have to stay farther away from your intended destination in order to not support nazis. and that may mean staying in a less desirable hotel as well. I'm willing to make those accommodations.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    There's more than one within 15 minutes of where I live, and the same was true when I lived in the OBX. They aren't always as obvious as the Hampton Inns/Marriotts/Hiltons of the world, but they exist if you're willing to put in the work looking and willing to make occasional compromises in location or amenities

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago

    I do a lot road work, and often just need to stay in a hotel for a nights sleep and a shower, so I find the cheapest small town motels I can find.

    Many Motel 6 and Super 8 motels have been remodeled, and are clean and decent. They aren't fancy, but the beds are comfortable, and they usually have a fridge and microwave. I try to stay under $75, but a couple months ago, I found one in rural GA for only $37.

    I spend a few minutes checking recent reviews on Google maps, weeding out those that sound sketchy, especially reports of bugs, and I've been pretty successful. Ive stayed in those places a couple of dozen times over the last couple of years, and haven't seen a single bug.

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  • [–] 25 points 10 months ago

    Sounds like an opportunity to find better employment with an employer that doesn't support fascism and the continued abuse of our Constitutional rights.

    Open up a GoFundMe to cover your costs of living while job hunting.

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  • [–] 24 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    The privacy and safety of our guests is of the utmost importance to us.

    Obviously except if one of their guest has a brown skin, in which case hosting ICE is actively putting them in danger.

    One should ask them if ICE would be allowed to arrest guests on their premises.

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  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago*

    They'll say yes obviously, but of all the potential grounds to disallowing them it'd be pretty hard to argue that one.

    Staff: are you going to potentially arrest guests here?

    ICE: maybe, what's it to you?

    Staff: we can't have you staying here if you're going to disrupt our guests or operations. Sorry but you can't stay here.

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  • [–] 18 points 10 months ago
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    Don’t start at a Marriott. Every time I read an article about ICE, they are staying at a Marriott.

    Or just go to your local Marriott and play trumpets at 3 am to be safe. You never know.

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  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    Better if you can play a song you know Trump/MAGA/ICE hate.

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Yakkity Sax the whole building every night.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago

    I mean there's always just pulling some tactics from the past and burning it down. Protect fascists, lose your property. Maybe melt some ICE on the way out. Give them, including the collaborators, something to truly fear.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago

    I'd only heard of Hiltons. That Hampton Inn that was disenfranchised for refusing service to ICE was part of the Hilton brand. Hilton issued an apology to ICE/DHS. Also, I believe, the hotel that drew the loud protest overnight after Renee Good was murdered was a Hilton.

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  • [–] 21 points 10 months ago

    Anyone get the info before it was purged from Reddit? Putting it on Lemmy might be safer from censorship.

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  • [–] 36 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    I mean zero to hero.... what be a puss for $15 dollars an hour when joe brandon and dumpy have devalued the dollar by half. We are sick of this shit… get these mouth breathers off our streets.

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  • [–] 10 points 10 months ago

    They are not “guests” they are terrorists and nazis who are there to harm and kill. Fuck Marriott for harboring, aiding, and abetting violent criminals.

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  • [–] 10 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    What's that permanent blue ink that explodes and they use to mark stolen bank money? Can we just spray them with that and look for the chubby white guys with an inverse blue mask on their face?

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago

    The easiest thing in the world is not to shoot someone.

    The modern firearm is only a few hundred years old. Humanity, even limiting ourselves to written history, spans roughly 8,000 years.

    Shooting someone is therefore either deliberate, or the result of deliberate negligence.

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago

    This is what you get when you elect Pedophile and con man as president.

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  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago

    Come on people, there are ways to get that info out there without outing yourself also.

    Be careful.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago

    " CSM Lodging"...how appropriate

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