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[–] 366 points 10 months ago (12 children)

So 2026 will be the year of AI slop then.

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  • [–] 102 points 10 months ago (9 children)

    the year of the linux desktop is getting delayed AGAIN?!

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  • [–] 21 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    I genuinely think last year was the "year of the Linux desktop" and will likely be looked at that way in the future. I know multiple people IRL who have moved to it not because they couldn't use 11 but because they were fed up with all of the nonsense from Microsoft.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago

    I'm one of them. I've dabbled before, but never stuck with it. Then I had a ton of issues with Windows 11, but the straw that broke the camel's back was seeing a Copilot button in fucking Notepad.

    Now I'm on EndeavourOS, and it genuinely feels like a more user-friendly experience. So congrats, Microsoft. You're not even the "just works" option anymore.

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  • [–] 30 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    No, that's getting pushed up in the schedule. It's happening NOW!

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  • [–] 165 points 10 months ago

    It will be called slop even more then.

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  • [–] [S] 153 points 10 months ago (5 children)
  • [–] 132 points 10 months ago (16 children)

    "We need to get beyond the arguments of slop vs sophistication," Nadella laments, emphasizing hopes that society will become more accepting of AI, or what Nadella describes as "cognitive amplifier tools." "...and develop a new equilibrium in terms of our “theory of the mind” that accounts for humans being equipped with these new cognitive amplifier tools as we relate to each other."

    There's that word 'hope' again. It seems to be the main driving force behind a.i. implementation.

    Also, I think "cognitive real-time amplifier product" makes for a better acronym.

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  • [–] 37 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    Talk about putting the cart before the fucking horse.

    Calling them “cognitive amplifier tools” doesn’t make them “cognitive amplifier tools”. They’ve yet to show that they do anything of the sort.

    Spitting out some basic code that probably has to be edited anyway is not a “cognitive amplifier tool”.

    Generating smooth skinned avatars with questionable anatomy is not a “cognitive amplifier tool”.

    Writing creepy, repetitive prose is not a “cognitive amplifier tool”.

    Hell, the term “cognitive amplifier tool” is just nonsense anyway. For fuck’s sake, I hate these people.

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  • [–] 10 points 10 months ago* (1 child)

    They hope that's what they'll become. Spoiler: they won't. You amplify your cognition by using it, not relegating it to a dumb computer.

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago

    They don't even need to do that. They just need the general population to believe that they're "cognitive amplifier tools". If you say something enough times, eventually people will start believing it even if it isn't true.

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  • [–] 29 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child)

    There's that word 'hope' again. It seems to be the main driving force behind a.i. implementation.

    "Hope is the worst of evils, for it prolongs the torment of man." - Friedrich Nietzsche

    Dude's gonna be disappointed when it's still called slop because people recognize it as slop

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  • [–] 16 points 10 months ago*

    I've never heard Satya Nadella say a single thing that wasn't just buzzword garbage. He's like a human slop-generating machine. Maybe that's why he can't recognize AI slop when he sees it.

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    The "hope" is that they will make shitloads of money from gullible dipshits buying their bullshit.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago* (3 children)

    That's more of a bet, which is the other word I keep seeing used about a.i.'s financial prospects. More or less the same thing though, so yeah.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Explain the fundamental difference between "hope" and "bet".

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  • [–] 248 points 10 months ago (16 children)
  • [–] 136 points 10 months ago (13 children)

    Sloppysoft or Microslop?

    Debating which word to add to my lexicon this year.

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  • [–] 113 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    I'd be down with both, but my heart is with Microslop. Keeping the first six letters the same really gears the listener up to hear "microsoft" before pulling the rug out from under 'em

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  • [–] 22 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    I feel like Sloppysoft is most accurate because Microslop implies they are only making a little and not shifting to entirely slop.

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    [–] 82 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    If it sounds like a duck and looks like a duck, I’m calling it a duck.

    Once it stops being slop, I’ll stop calling it what it is.

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  • [–] 76 points 10 months ago (18 children)

    If you don't want it to be slop, don't grind culture into a slurry, run half the worlds electricity through it, all for it to generate child porn. Actually fuck off.

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  • [+] -23 points 10 months ago (17 children)
  • [–] 19 points 10 months ago (16 children)

    Will you then pay for my next RAM purchase? Because it is your fault that prices have skyrocketed.

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  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago (6 children)

    It's mostly NVIDIA and OpenAI fault, if you want to be honest.

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago* (5 children)

    No. I blame the users for creating a market by using it. If no one was interested in that bullshit, then that industry would have collapsed 2-3 years ago. There will always be psychopaths with "business ideas" that do fuck all for this planet or the living beings roaming on it. Can't prevent that. But the general masses enabling them? That's definitely on every single one of them.

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  • [–] 14 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    The market isn't growing due to demand, though. AI is being pushed by businesses and investors hoping that demand will appear in the future. They're burning through tons of cash, not growing naturally due to user interest.

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  • [–] -1 points 10 months ago

    If everyone was completely boycotting this machine learning bullshit, they wouldn't stand a chance pushing it. Apps "offering" LLM bullshit? Use other software.

    Support chat forces chatbot on you? Call them by the number on the imprint. And if that doesn't work - send them a letter with a notice period to respond.

    "Vibe coders" submitting pull requests? Tell them to shove their plagiarism where the sun don't shine.

    I have not had to use LLM snake oil even once to date, and I don't plan on accepting it anywhere. Ig everyone did that, the "technology" would have been dead on arrival.

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    While it's true that some demand is related, the vast vast majority of the spend is speculative on what AI might be and assuming that if it manages to be the thing of their dreams, it will demand exponentially more resources than the current LLM slop.

    They are spending this money without clear indication that the demand they want is there. For example, OpenAI at one point claimed that, by now, businesses would be paying them $50k/year for a single 'instance' of LLM, good for equivalent to one human headcount.

    They are currently betting that at some point, they'll effectively fix the lack of actual reasoning (a number of AI enthusiasts will claim that AI can have an entirely distinct thing from any reasoning we have ever known but still call it reasoning, which is a pretty stupid cop out). And/or they'll translate this reliably to robotics (so far this has ended up being pretty elusive, investors assumed the same fake language that passes for executive-speak means it could apply to menial manual labor, but it hasn't worked yet).

    But yeah, refraining from using these services would deflate the expectations more quickly, enough people toying around with it sparks the imagination of what the execs think they can get for it...

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  • [+] -2 points 10 months ago (8 children)
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    It's your fault for using that shit and contributing to its widespread acceptance, thereby inflating the bubble. And you are therefore responsible for the consequences, among which completely unrelated people lose lots of money. If only that was the worst of it.

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  • [+] 2 points 10 months ago (6 children)
  • [–] 0 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    By your logic, when you give your vote to a fascist party, and they proceed to win the election and turn your country into a fascist dictatorship, then that is also not your fault.

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  • [+] 1 point 10 months ago* (4 children)
  • [–] 0 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    You speculate that Grand Old Pedophile party voters could not have done anything against the rise of fascism, I state that they did not even try - even worse, they actively enabled pedocriminal rapists and murderers. They are absolutely responsible for this clusterfuck we have right now. Are they the only ones responsible? No - but they could definitely have TRIED to prevent this shitfest.

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  • [+] 1 point 10 months ago (2 children)
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    I suppose I don't even want to hear specifics about that use of machine learning...

    [..] because the average person is genuinely powerless against the system

    that is what the rich assholes want us to believe. Of course the individual is powerless, but if just 10-20% of mankind happened to be pulling on the same end of the rope for once (I know, fat chance of that happening), this stupid system could be fixed. As long as people are willing to betray their peers for minimal (perceived) personal gain, we're being useful idiots to those who have been stealing their billions from everyone.

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  • [–] 53 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

    Fascists: "We don't like to be Called fascists!"

    AI companies: "We don't like our slop created from stolen content to be called slop!"

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  • [–] 48 points 10 months ago

    Then stop spewing slop everywhere, AI or not

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  • [–] 43 points 10 months ago

    The "slop" refers to the flood of low quality "content". Therefore fixing people calling your stuff slop is simple, at least in theory.

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  • [–] 36 points 10 months ago* (2 children)

    It’s not the general public’s fault that AI was released before it was ready for prime time. It’s not like the word “slop” was picked out of a hat, either. AI earned the word with its laughably bad output.

    I’ll make the CEO a deal, though. If AIs stop producing slop, I won’t call it slop anymore.

    Microsoft Copilot is the tip of the spear for the firm, powered entirely by ChatGPT and Microsoft's savvy early investments in OpenAI.

    “Savvy”? Really? I think it’s years too early to make that assessment.

    Indeed, in closing, Nadella seems to admit that AI doesn't truly have "societal permission" right now, referencing widespread backlash and mockery that continues to dog the technology.

    What kind of “permission” is he looking for? Permission to steal and ignore copyright? Permission to build untold numbers of data centers and do vast environmental damage? Permission to lie and sell a substandard product? He probably wants all three, and more.

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago

    I think he's trying to do the bullshit of creating a sense that people who utilize GPT systems are somehow repressed class in some fashion. I don't think that the term about cognitive amplification is intended to truly mean that, so much as create the sense that if you aren't treating it like that output is equal that somehow you're being judgmental unfairly.

    Basically he doesn't want output from those things to be graded on an equal playing field with stuff that wasn't created that way, because he knows it fucking fails.

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago

    The permission he's talking about is being seen as cool or normal. This whole thing is him whining that we think his loser product that causes more problems than it solves is a loser product that causes more problems than it solves

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  • [–] 35 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    IMMA DO IT EVEN HARDER NOW

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    So stop calling the slop slop?

    Gee I dunno, maybe start by making an OS that isn’t so sloppy.

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    You want people to stop calling it a sloppy joe? Make hamburgers instead

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  • [–] 34 points 10 months ago

    Ok, we'll call it "trash" then

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  • [–] 33 points 10 months ago (1 child)
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