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[–] 25 points 10 months ago (3 children)
  • [–] 24 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    Sometimes I miss old forums where content was brought back up by simply posting within the topic (though that lead to the annoying and incessant “bump? bump? bump?” posts on threads people wouldn’t let die, i guess).

    Post voting is understandable as an alternative but it just leads to so much vanity as a result. Sites like this and reddit have so many dorks that are like “my fake internet points… how could you”. If it matters that much to you just shitpost all the time and you’ll get those numbers up

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  • [–] 23 points 10 months ago

    question about something specific (3w ago)


    nvm figured it out (3w ago)

    what was the solution? Im having the same issue (5m ago)

    [MOD] necroing resolved topics is against the TOS. Read the rules before posting. Banned 4 lyf sunnnnn (1m ago)

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago

    Sometimes I miss old forums where content was brought back up by simply posting within the topic

    That's how forums on Steam work and it makes them almost useless. The only posts you see are the rage bait from people farming Steam points from 'Clown' awards. Any meaningful post doesn't get the same engagement as people trying to 'slam the trolls into submission' (FFS, how do people still not know you don't feed the trolls?) so it gets pushed under all the bullshit.

    Lemmy's system is good because there is no account wide total, so it really doesn't matter if one of your posts gets a lot of upvotes and another gets a lot of downvotes, it just means one was good and other wasn't.

    ... And then you get people who really want some kind of account wide total for some reason so they go to websites that total up the number of times a user has given upvotes and downvotes...

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    [–] 21 points 10 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] 17 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

    Images showing the user has done the following votes: total Post Upvotes: 7800, total Post Downvotes: 80, Total comment Upvotes: 81400, Total comment Downvotes: 3900

    k0u6Zt6Jq6kdlBX.png

    oh well, it seems i vote a ton in comparison

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  • [–] 31 points 10 months ago (5 children)
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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    Maybe, it's not clear:

    1. What you see in the image are the upvotes and downvotes I gave, not the ones I received.
    2. I'm on a Lemmy instance that does not have downvotes enabled at all. I can't even downvote anything and if others click the downvote button on my posts/comments, nothing happens at all as far as I know. Maybe, their app shows that it worked, but I don't think, anything happens.
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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago

    if others click the downvote button on my posts/comments, nothing happens at all as far as I know.

    I think it shares the downvotes within that instance (possibly with other instances that allow downvoting) so anyone else viewing the post from the same instance as the user who downvoted will still see it and their browser will use that when sorting the posts.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

    lemmydividebyzero

    I have built a tool because I was trying to track down some serial down voting and @lena@gregtech.eu's tool didn't quite hit the mark. (Nothing like an itch to scratch when you might be on some spectrum)

    My instance certainly sees down votes against you that get federated.

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    [–] 15 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Holy beans that's a lot of upvotes

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    [–] 11 points 10 months ago

    I've definitely down voted some AI slop but damn do I look like a ray of sunshine

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  • [–] 10 points 10 months ago

    People are much more likely to write a complaint letter than a praising one. Same as it ever was but internet version.

    I worked for a company that had a post karma system before reddit ever existed. It was no different then. No matter how much we said that the downvote button is not a dislike button, it changed nothing.

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  • [–] 10 points 10 months ago

    Hadn't seen this before.

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Do these indicate up / down votes that I've given to other people? Or that other people have given to me?

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago

    i'm a grumpy man on the internet sometimes but damn i love upvoting shit. I display lemmiquette

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  • [–] 17 points 10 months ago

    Guess I'm doing okay!

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  • [–] 35 points 10 months ago (5 children)
  • [–] 11 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    Considering how prolific a poster you are I expected higher numbers in every category? Or maybe this username is a new one?

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  • [–] 14 points 10 months ago (3 children)
  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago

    I'm a bit of a cynic, but I do enjoy hearing out all your wild takes and unpopular opinions lol

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago*

    Context: This is the number of votes someone gave, not the number someone got from others.

    And I like that.

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  • [–] 28 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    i downvote any ai slop that crosses my feed

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  • [–] 13 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Sticking my neck out a bit to share my general views and habits on voting to maybe add some other things to consider.

    My general mindset is that each community sets rules on posts and comments, and that ideally only appropriate things should then be posted. So I typically only think to upvote stuff when there's an even greater than normal amount of effort or thought put into something, or to counteract dogpile downvotes to an appropriate post/comment.

    Say I'm browsing a motorcycle community and one user posts a meme about bikes, and someone else poses a story about learning to ride; if my preference is for text posts instead of images I could just upvote the story post and not the meme, but both posts are related to the community and belong there. I could upvote both (and by extension all posts) but then what's the difference if everything is +1 or +0? If memes are disallowed, I can downvote and report the post to push it down to hopefully keep others from having to see it or encourage them to post their own.

    I will also downvote nearly 100% of extremely low-effort pointless comments like "THIS", "lol", URL shortened or amp/tracking including links without context etc. A post in another language but marked as English I will also downvote, foreign language communities/instances I just block. I block most meme and shitpost style communities so I'm not looking to vote police what other people enjoy, but doing this stuff in science/news/hobby/etc. communities is inappropriate.

    So that's generally how I behave on Lemmy (and previously on Reddit) - I'm generally more "on the lookout" for bad content, and not looking to boost things that belong here. I don't rely on voting to maintain my feed, my block lists are also enormous.

    A more semi-recent phenomenon is accounts spam posting a bunch of (relevant) links and then self-deleting - I can't block that account to hide their posts, but as I'm scrolling through my feed I will downvote every single post they made regardless of its quality etc. I'm not going to rehash arguments about whether their behavior is acceptable or not ("they are posting relevant stuff, who cares if they're acting in bad faith!") but since there's generally 2-3 of those accounts per day spam posting junk that's a lot of downvotes from me to a lot of different communities including some I'm not subscribed to. I'm not going to bother reporting every single post, and until there's a method to easily directly report a user I'm not going to bother trying that anymore.

    Just wanted to put that out there that there might be other legitimate users that have wildly disproportionate voting numbers and that it might not be malicious or careless in nature. I don't know if Lemmy ignores them like Reddit (supposedly?) does, but I've never mass voted from a user's history. It's only from comments and posts that were presented to me during my normal browsing.

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  • [–] 12 points 10 months ago*

    What is that... a 10:1 ratio for the comments and nearly 15:1 for the posts? (I suck at math)

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago (10 children)

    My upvote to downvote is 10:1 for both posts and comments. Cool tool!

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago* (6 children)

    Hm, I’ve got an upvote/downvote post ratio of 315:1, and a comment ratio of about 14:1.

    I guess I’m an optimist.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    Do you by chance only browse your subscribed subs? I think I could pick a few communities to view where most posts and comments are decent and on topic. I am always browsing "all" though so there's a lot to see and it isn't always updoot material.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (4 children)

    I curate my feed, blocking communities that don’t interest me. So yeah kinda.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (3 children)

    I guess I do the same come to think of it, but maybe you're more aggressive or I'm more loose with the downvote button or both.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    I generally avoid the downvote button, at least, I think so. I downvote AI slop (especially in communities that explicitly forbid it.) Though for comments I may put a train of downvotes for some troll that's all over a thread.

    I feel like there may be a misinterpretation here though. My ratio is more "upvote-oriented" than yours. Unless you mean aggressive with upvoting, which perhaps, I may be.

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    This is the upvotes/downvotes they did on other people’s stuff, or others did on their stuff?

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  • [+] 21 points 10 months ago (4 children)
  • [–] 21 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

    True neutral. Who's gonna fight such a nice balance?

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    I mean... You have the options to upvote, to down vote and to not click a button. I haven't seen 742 posts that were so terrible that I had to decide to down vote them.

    Down voting other opinions just because they do not match mine brings useless negativity. I don't think, we need that on Lemmy.

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago

    I love this website wth.

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago

    I tend to downvote hateful content and disinformation. So is it "hatorade" to downvote hateful content and straight up lies?

    Though more often I reply back to tell people to tell them to try not to be so hateful and then I get downvoted. I cry myself to sleep every night when that happens :P

    While you're judging people, someone else may be judging you. If you're motivated by upvotes maybe consider going to reddit?

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago

    My ratio is much better than on Reddit. Have I changed or better community? Maybe both

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago

    Me:
    Total post upvotes: 3591
    Total post downvotes: 308
    Total comment upvotes: 15627
    Total comment downvotes: 2862

    I seem to upvote posts about 10 times as much as I downvote them, but comments only about 5 times as much. I need to get upvoting more comments.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago

    List of votes for humanspiral@lemmy.ca:

    • Total post upvotes: 6445
    • Total post downvotes: 99
    • Total comment upvotes: 8436
    • Total comment downvotes: 984
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    I guess I'm not that grumpy.

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    I can't even figure out how to comment on this stupidity.

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  • [–] 12 points 10 months ago* (12 children)

    Personally I factor this in with bans on my communities. I very rarely ban, but I do if I notice people like this, who I dub "downvote trolls". They don't participate (or when they do it's negatively), the just downvote constantly.

    Now I'm fine with downvotes, I downvote, I think it's healthy to say "I don't like this content". However if all you do is downvote (especially in a specific community) then I view a ban as a win win. We don't have to deal with your negativity and obviously you don't enjoy being here anyway from your voting patterns, so everyone wins.

    For my communities I have a pretty healthy ratio. If you downvote 80% of the content, you're on my radar. I won't ban you on that data alone, but seriously 4 out of 5 votes on the community are on average down then why are you there?

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  • [–] [S] 11 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Personally, I agree (we would never do this in a large community for the record). But yes, there are people who think that they can "kill" a small community with downvotes because they don't like the topic.

    The sad thing is, it's true. In a community where most posts have under 5 or so votes, one person coming in and systematically downvoting every post will keep people from seeing it who may be interested. If someone doesn't like a topic, they can block the community, but when they take steps to prevent others from seeing it, that's toxic. It's bad for the health of the platform.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    Exactly my use case, I'm on a couple communities that I'm sure there are people out there don't like, but for the few of us who do really like the community we enjoy it. Those who don't enjoy it are welcome to block us or not subscribe to us, but they insist instead on downvoting every single post because they personally don't like it, ruining the experience for the actual people who do care about the community. You're also right that it's a small community, we're not talking about Ask Lemmy, we're talking about a small community with less than 100 people. Where a post may get a few up votes

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  • [–] 12 points 10 months ago (9 children)

    Content from all communities shows up on my feed, like most others'. Confused mods, possibly like you, seem to get angry when the see people regularly downvote content that they seem to be low-quality, even when those people are doing so without regard of the specific community.

    If you don't want to deal with downvotes in a community, you might be better off moving it to an instance that does not support downvotes.

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    A bit of selfresponsibility would help both sides tho - if you browse /all, you get /all, so instead of downvoting stuff you are not subscribed to and where you might be missing the context of the community, it would be best for you and the others to just filter the community instead of downvoting every single time.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    I ignore stuff that's simply irrelevant to me; I downvote slop and actual garbage in an attempt to help make everything better for everyone.

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  • [–] 0 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    One man's garbage is another man's treasure.

    If you browse by all and end up always negatively interacting with a community it's reasonable to get removed from that community

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    No, there's some objective garbage out there.

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  • [–] -2 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    And this is why you get uninvited from participating in communities you don't like. An opinion isn't objective simply because it is your opinion

    https://lemmy.world/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&userId=121184

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago

    That's not at all what I'm talking about. Random downvotes are a constant, those don't matter to me. However if you really hit 80% downvotes in my community alone, then to me I'm doing you a favor. You should have just blocked my community, so I'll do it for you. It is honestly difficult to get that high or a downvote rate.

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago

    If I had to guess, I also have more downvotes than upvotes, if you exclude my own content, which I’m pretty sure is counted for some reason.

    I don’t really tend to upvote much, I didn’t on Reddit either and I should probably work on that. On the other hand, while I don’t go through profiles to mass downvote, some users are tagged and deserve to be downvoted on sight ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago

    Probably Spez trying to down vote everything here to make Reddit look better lmao

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    [–] 5 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Ah yes. Penis measuring. But instead of measuring penises we're measuring something even more arbitrary.

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