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[–] 101 points 10 months ago* (6 children)

As it essentially only caters to the wealthy, I am not shocked. Make it $50k, not like they won't want to climb Everest.

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  • [–] 39 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

    Yes, I'm thinking this was the real issue.

    Maybe put up a nice instagrammable leaderboard to gamify it, and so people will be driven to virtue signal, and anyone who can't looks as bad as they're being.

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  • [–] 24 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    I like how these wealthy turds still think it's impressive they "climbed" mount Everest.

    Like fuck, if you do it in a group of 100 people and you've got 10 guides carrying your bags who've done it a thousand times, and youre not even going to the highest or toughest part, im not even going to pretend to be impressed.

    Anyone who says they climbed Everest is just a self-absored rich asshole.

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  • [–] 59 points 10 months ago (6 children)

    Close the mountain. If you can't take care of it, you don't deserve to get to climb it.

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  • [–] 15 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    So it's ok to destroy the environment just so a few more people can "earn" a living being servants of the ultra rich?

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  • [–] 29 points 10 months ago*

    How much do you earn compared to the average rural Nepali, and do you ever do anything bad for the climate?

    This isn't even a climate change issue, it's just garbage that can be picked back up, and which is only ever seen by other climbers.

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  • [–] 26 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child)

    Glass houses, "friend." As an English-speaking person posting on Lemmy, your lifestyle is almost certainly 10x worse for the environment than some Sherpa's is. And you probably serve the ultra rich too, one way or another.

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  • [–] 13 points 10 months ago

    So what you're saying is we should dispose of the wealthy and spread their assets and wealth out and lift up the lives of the Sherpas and other less fortunate individuals?

    I agree. Fuck the oligarchs and the multimillionaires who zealously support them.

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    [–] 58 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    hear me out.

    only rich dumbasses climb Everest. $4000 is just the fee to climb on top of the regular fee to them.

    instead of charging a fee, make it a requirement to return with x pounds of trash or face jail time.

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    [–] 49 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    When you're paying over 50k to climb the mountain anyway, an additional 4k isn't very much.

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  • [–] 43 points 10 months ago

    Make the deposits higher, then pool the deposits of those that fail to meet the requirements. Then at the end of the year award the pooled money to the climbers who returned the most trash. As someone else said gamify it…

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  • [–] 23 points 10 months ago

    Double or triple the deposit. That might help.

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  • [–] 19 points 10 months ago* (6 children)

    Wow, never been within many thousands of miles of Everest, but I'm quite frankly shocked by that "50 tonnes" estimate. Yikes!

    I wonder at what altitude this is, like is it piled up near a bunch of camps towards the base, or higher up?

    I always pictured it more akin to a much more vertical Antarctica or something.

    That's really sad. :(

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  • [–] 17 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    Aren’t there a bunch of dead people up there too?

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  • [–] 20 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    There are. Of the 344 people who have died attempting the summit, at least 200 are still up there. You're literally in the process of slowly dying above the 8000 meter mark, which is why it's always deemed too dangerous to try and retrieve them.

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    That's only 850m shy of the summit tho. How many people make it to 8km and can't make the last ~10%?

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  • [–] 17 points 10 months ago

    A lot. The weather on Everest can turn on a dime, and if you don't turn around and start back at the first sign of inclement weather, it can blow up in an instant and murder you.

    Tons of summit attempts end with having to be abandoned just short of the finish.

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  • [–] 13 points 10 months ago

    The rich would never go near a municipal dump, much less climb a literal mountain of garbage... Unless it's located in the highest point in the world, then they'd happily pay for the privilege.

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    How much waste they take up with them?

    If it's more than 8kg, I'm guessing that the only missing requirement for the refund is to increase the number to make it that every climber brings down more than they take up.

    In other words, put every climber on the scales before they go up and unless they weigh more when they come back, they don't get their money back.

    Bonus reward for each extra kg.

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago

    From The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:

    The fabulously beautiful planet Bethselamin is now so worried about the cumulative erosion by ten billion visiting tourists a year that any net imbalance between the amount you eat and the amount you excrete while on the planet is surgically removed from your body weight when you leave: so every time you go to the lavatory there it is vitally important to get a receipt.

    Published in 1979, so nearly a half century old idea 😉

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    Tourism ministry and mountaineering department officials told the BBC most of the deposit money had been refunded over the years - which should mean most climbers brought back their trash.

    But the scheme is said to have failed because the rubbish climbers have brought back is usually from lower camps - not the higher camps where the garbage problem is worst.

    "From higher camps, people tend to bring back oxygen bottles only," said Tshering Sherpa, chief executive officer of the Sagarmatha Pollution Control Committee, which runs an Everest checkpoint.

    "Other things like tents and cans and boxes of packed foods and drinks are mostly left behind there, that is why we can see so much of waste piling up."

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