https://github.com/ublue-os/countme/blob/main/growth_global.svg

Graphs can be found here on their github. Since around mid November the active user count for Bazzite has gone up by around 16k active users.

Personally, my only wish for Bazzite is a Cosmic version 👼 I tried it out recently and it seems fairly impressive

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[–] 40 points 10 months ago

It’s not really surprising, Bazzite has been the talk of Linux internet for the last 18 or so months.

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  • [–] 69 points 10 months ago (16 children)

    I'm three of those new installs. Bazzite has surpassed every expectation I had.

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  • [–] 13 points 10 months ago (15 children)

    What's so special about this? Aside from the immutable thingy, of course.

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  • [–] 85 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (10 children)

    Probably the fact that they have many ISOs tailored for each supported hardware configuration, and they point the user to the right ISO with a clear wizard in their download page.

    Also basically it is an unbreakable gaming focused OS very close to SteamOS, that you don't have to maintain, and it comes preconfigured with Steam and the right drivers for your setup. I'm not the target audience, but I see the appeal.

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  • [–] 41 points 10 months ago (6 children)

    This, so much. I tried pop_os, mint, ubuntu, and more, but all had the problem that when I had an hour to play games, It became 55min of troubleshooting some random issue and not playing because of it.

    With Bazzite i can finally use linux and just boot, play a game, shutdown. No hassle.

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  • [–] 31 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (5 children)

    I think this is one of the big steps that make Linux gaming more accessible to the general public. Proton was clearly the first major step and Bazzite might be the second one.

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    Agreed, when SteamOS gets more general hardware supporty things will get interesting, but Bazzite is a desktop with superlative Steam support, while SteamOS is more a steam console with desktop support. When people, especially newbs, want to do desktop things with their general purpose machines, on SteamOS they're using Arch (bleeding edge, lower stability), while Bazzites get Fedora (sharp edge, higher stability and security) which should be a less painful and frustrating experience. Of course if there's a flatpak (possibly the third step) it'll be painless on either, and hey, everybody wins (except winblows) in either case.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Eh, I did 4 or 5 years on Arch, broke a lot, learned a lot, got tired of that and retired to Fedora, now Bazzite. I would recommend Arch or Cachy to someone with technical chops, which is a surprising amount of PC gamers, who wants to get up to speed fast on linux. I'll recommend ArchWiki regardless. Then there are the others who just want to game with minimal friction, for them, Bazzite. Horses for courses... Hard agree on Ubuntu.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago*

    I switched a year or two ago to Bazzite from EOS, and it (EOS) broke all of the time during large updates. If I went more than a week without updating, it was almost guaranteed to break. I used TimeShift all of the time out of necessity. I've only needed to rollback my Bazzite install once, and that was because I fucked it up. The rollback process was also incredibly easy

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  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

    This is why I chose it. Gaming living room computer that kids can't easily break. It just worked. Well, except for my idea to dual boot and have games pulling from an ntfs hdd. Bazzite hated that idea. So if you're using bazzite, make sure your games are on a Linux partition. Even though Linux is ok with ntfs for some reason beyond my expertise... Games do not like it.

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  • [–] 10 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    The immutable thing is nice, though it takes some getting used to. It's Fedora which I already love, without any of the hassle. Everything just works. I never realized how much time I was wasting until I didn't have to do it anymore. Every task I throw at it, it performs beautifully, even things I'm sure aren't going to work out of the box do. Every time, so far.

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago

    I was surprised how well it handles printers. We have an old Brother wireless laser mfp. It was pretty cool when it just saw the printer automatically, but I was really impressed with how easy scanning was.

    I started going down the rabbit hole of manually installing and configuring it, but then tested some simple terminal command and it already saw the scanner. Ran skanpage and Bob's your uncle.

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  • [–] 18 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (20 children)

    I ended up with CachyOS over Bazzite but I'm looking into the latter for my dad since I'm guessing it's more stable and easier.

    I just... Idk, I like Arch over Fedora. I blame the little pacman eating my progress whenever I install stuff in konsole. Desktop mode to desktop mode it's the same KDE Plasma I'd be using, though. Are there any other striking differences between Cachy and Bazzite?

    Edit: it was good to bring it up here, y'all are very knowledgeable on these things. It sounds to me that I need to get bazzite for my dad mostly because he won't want to fuss or work on it and that I made the right call for myself since Cachy (and Arch in general) gives more flexibility. Frankly I might not even give him desktop mode default, he strictly wants something to play from bed in full on retirement mode.

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  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago* (5 children)

    AFAIK CachyOS still demands a little involvement in the OS. Like, you have to watch the logs when you update, you need keep context in mind, like knowing you're running KDE and an Nvidia card and so on. But I feel like Bazzite would be more usable to someone who doesn't know (and doesn't need to know) what a filesystem or a discrete GPU are.

    But in terms of stability, CachyOS has been rock solid for me. The cadence that Arch + CachyOS devs fix stuff has been utterly perfect.

    So I say if your dad is more 'software curious,' give him CachyOS. If he doesn't like messing with computer stuff, give him Bazzite.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    It's unfortunate that years as a tech guy at his job has made him less software curious, so probably bazzite then. Rather, I guess when it's your job to fix things, tinkering isn't fun anymore.

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago

    I second this, it's why I went with Bazzite on my main rig - it just needs to work and be reliable. The last thing I want to be doing in my spare time is funking around trying to fix anything that happens to break.

    All my other devices run whatever I feel like so I can scratch that curiosity-itch but they get reinstalled if anything major breaks and I can't fix it in a reasonable amount of time

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago* (1 child)

    Ah.

    Well one catch I’ve found outside of CachyOS is that if something isn’t working right, it’s easy to create a ton of work for yourself trying to fix it. An example would be fighting your system trying to roll a package forward for a fix, which then gets out of sync with your distro, which requires more manual fixing since you’re the one maintaining it now…

    The Arch/Cachy ecosystem, on the other hand, tends to encourage more usage of system packages, and fixes stuff quick. Usually waiting a day or a few days + a pacman -Syyuu fixes what was wrong.

    If your Dad is a software engineer, it’s possible he might fall into that trap with Bazzite. It kinda just depends on his habits/personality, though from what you describe this may not be a huge danger.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago

    Him 20-30 years ago probably would have. This is a man who, when I was a kid, made a custom UI for msdos so my brother and I could play games easier. He wouldn't just tinker, he'd probably be contributing.

    Old age and alcoholism has kind of robbed him of that, though. At this point he'll probably just ask me to fix it if it goes wrong, lol

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago*

    I went from Arch to Fedora idk, I think over a decade ago and haven't looked back, not sure how things are nowadays, but I switched again this year from Fedora to Bazzite and I love it. Sure, you've got to learn to do things a little differently, but so far it's been great. And it forced me to use distrobox, which honestly I should have done sooner, it's absolutely great.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    I’ve been using Fedora for while but I decided to try Bazzite and for the most part it’s been a great out of the box experience. I didn’t have to mess with NVidia and Wayland as much as I did with vanilla Fedora.

    It is a little wonky compared to other distros. I don’t like the way some features are managed, but for a new non-Linux user, they won’t know the difference. I highly recommend it for people that just want to jump on Steam and go.

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago

    Most people don't want to tinker. They just want a machine that works without hassle or need to think much about how everything works, or risk breaking something... But also without the bloat or the walled garden of Apple.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago* (1 child)

    That’s a good point overall and definitely something to consider.

    However, I don’t think it applies to Bazzite specifically because they’ve had such a meteoric growth rise in popularity over the last year. They have more resources to make that stuff.

    But, I don’t think most people in modern hardware need to do much for Bazzite to get going. I think unless they want to play Windows games, they shouldn’t need to do anything weird.

    Bazzite handled all the annoying setup for Wayland and the Nvidia drivers. Bazzite also manages the updates without a user needing to know how the terminal works. (I personally don’t like that, but it’s probably good for new users).

    Bazzite also has fairly robust documentation, which is probably not the case for most Atomic Distros. They also have pretty decent support on social media and in their discord server.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago

    Bazzite also manages the updates without a user needing to know how the terminal works. (I personally don’t like that, but it’s probably good for new users).

    Should be noted that this is entirely optional. I update manually through the terminal with "ujust update"

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago

    I'm in the same boat, my main gaming pc is still bazzite for now (I use it like a HTPC) but eventually when i can be bothered I'll be on cachy os as I've really enjoyed being able to use the arch-iness on my other devices that have it.

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago

    I'm no expert but I didn't have any trouble compiling and running a native Linux FPS game in an Arch distrobox on bazzite to test a bugfix.

    I'm just good enough with Linux to know my way around and to break stuff when I have unfettered access to mess with the base system. Bazzite saves me from myself.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago

    I think the most important advice is to use a separate disk/SSD for your home directory so if you screw something up or if you want to change directions, you don’t lose your files. Some of my vendor contracts actively require that I do just this.

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  • [–] 15 points 10 months ago (7 children)

    How do you know how many active users?

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  • [–] [S] 20 points 10 months ago* (6 children)

    fedora distros have a thing called countme that pings their servers so they can measure general trends in how many people are using the OS and the various spins, which can be helpful for determining what to focus on. some amount of the userbase opt out of it

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  • [–] 10 points 10 months ago (5 children)
  • It is on by default, but can be disabled in your repo config: https://dnf.readthedocs.io/en/latest/conf_ref.html

    The feature works by adding a flag to one random http request to a fedora repo every week. Fedora then aggregates the http logs that have been flagged to derive their metrics. You can opt out of sending the flag, but if you're querying fedora repos then you still end up in their http log.

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  • [–] 12 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    It appears as though it is...

    But saying it pings their servers isn't quite a fair statement as it's not some background service that opens a network connection, it sounds to me at least like it's data that is sent to the Fedora repos once a week when you update your system?

    Clients (DNF, PackageKit, …) have been modified so they add a countme variable in their requests to mirrors.fedoraproject.org once a week. This ends up in our webserver log data which lets us generate usage statistics.

    Would be glad to be corrected on this though as I am a long time Fedora user now and I'm not overly fond of my data being collected by big corpo; it's why I left Windows in the first place 🙄

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  • [–] 13 points 10 months ago*

    I feel like people lately go a bit overboard when it's about protecting their "data".

    As far as I see all it does is just send one single number that shows that there is someone using this specific operation system and it does not include any personal or unique to the user information.

    In my opinion this does not even qualify as "my data"

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  • [–] 15 points 10 months ago* (14 children)

    Sample size of 1, here.

    Bazzite was my initial entry-point into Linux, but I bounced off it within 48 hours as its immutable nature made it impossible for me to install the native PIA VPN client and for the life of me I couldn’t get the OpenVPN to play nice.

    Currently on CachyOS, and seems to run just fine - giving an end user just enough rope 😅

    Plus it’s Arch underneath the hood too, so I can still cheekily say that I run Arch!

    ETA: I wonder if/how long I would count as part of this Bazzite cohort?

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  • [–] [S] 5 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    you can layer vpns via rpm-ostree install [.rpm location]

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  • [–] [S] -3 points 10 months ago* (3 children)

    mullvad is a better choice anyways. you can also download a wireguard config and load it directly into the network manager

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    While I agree, it's a pretty lame thing to say "This doesn't work for your use case? That's because your use case is wrong" If the distro doesn't support PIA, then that is an issue with the distro, not the user.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago

    Yeah, getting PIA running without the native client has been a bit rough. These days I've just gotten use to starting a terminal as soon as I log-in, but I probably need a more permanent solution. maybe it'll be switching to cachy as well.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago* (2 children)

    PIA has OpenVPN or IPsec profiles (I forget which) that can be imported into NetworkManager. You just have to put in your account info.

    I don't think every location has one...but a lot do.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (1 child)

    There are apparently OpenVPN profile you can import, but as I said in my earlier comment - I just couldn’t get it to work (connection attempts would just time out).

    I still have like ~18 months of PIA left (joined under a 100% cashback offer), but will likely switch to Proton or Mullvad afterwards - as they both seem to work better under Linux from what I’ve read.

    I’m sure over time I’ll tinker more under the hood over time, but for now - I’m just trying to ease myself into Linux with pre-configured installers when particular apps aren’t available through the Cachy Package Manager.

    30-odd years of Windows usage has dulled my IT skills!

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    PIA VPN

    huge binary blob

    Holy mother of blob, Batman

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (1 child)

    I barely know what I’m looking at! 😅

    Pretty sure I tried poking around that file on Bazzite also to see if I could locate the RPM to try and do a manual terminal install - but gave up after a few minutes.

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  • [–] 14 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    It's a little strange how these numbers are relatively far off from what the Steam Hardware Survey suggests. On there, Linux is 3.2% of the userbase and Bazzite is 5.5% of that, so Bazzite is about 0.176% of the total userbase. Steam has about 70 million daily active users, so Bazzite's share of that would be about 120 000.

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  • [–] 13 points 10 months ago

    I’ve been using Bazzite for a while and mostly happy with it. So from 2026 and on, I’ll start donating a Windows license amount of money to Bazzite and other fundementals every year. Because fuck Windows, that’s why.

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