I'm gonna delete the account after selling my Quest 2 for the Steam Frame

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[–] 164 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (21 children)

I backed the original Oculus Rift, and felt massively betrayed when they sold to Meta. :(

For years since I've been waiting for A VR solution that plays nice with Linux and is at least somewhat privacy-respecting, and I have been absolutely unwilling to buy a Quest device or anything else. I want to play VR but I'm not willing to sell my soul for it. So it's been an unhappy but conscious boycott from me.

I too then am super looking forward to the Steam Frame because it's the device I need to get back into VR and feel happy and excited about it, rather than disgusted.

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  • [–] 33 points 10 months ago (15 children)

    This has been such a depressing trend over the last few decades.

    Fresh bright-eyed startup with a passionate creator develops some interesting and innovative product.

    Gets bought out by FAANG, turns to shit and stops working properly or gets discontinued, and primarily functions as a spyware device.

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  • [–] 14 points 10 months ago (8 children)

    That's just the inevitable endgame in a capitalistic society. Most startups' end goals at inception are to sell out to a corporation.

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  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    I think the cure is identifying that it's all bullshit every time

    I mean that's great but it doesn't stop everyone else from falling for it, and you having to pay the price accordingly.

    I guess this is how I arrived at calling myself an "anti-technology technologist"

    I just call myself a Luddite at this point. Any technology developed outside of FOSS just completely disinterests me. Everything else is assumed to be malware.

    I got into cycling a few years' back. But of course technology is coming for bicycles too and all my riding buddies are just so amped about it and can't understand why I want absolutely nothing to do with it.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago

    Most people's goals are to not have to work for a living. Selling a successful startup allows for that to happen. Unfortunately, the startup needs to start making money after someone pays a lot of money for it, and we all know what happens next.

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  • [–] 16 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    That makes it sound like these startups have no choice in the matter. The funny thing is, you don't have to sell your company to an enormous evil corporation if you don't want to.

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  • [–] 18 points 10 months ago

    Depends on who your initial investors are and the contract you signed with them. They can and will force a sale if their RoI isn't met in a specific time-frame, or if the buyout price reaches a certain valuation.

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Partly true but Amazon has been known to make dupes of a product and sell it at a loss to drive the competitor out of business. I'm sure that threat lingers in some peoples' minds.

    They probably also promise the management team "you'll still have creative control after we buy you". Then turn around and replace each of them one by one

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago

    Yeah, I worked for an amazing company for 13 years, a big corporation bought it, and now I have my own business and my soul back. Same shit, "you'll still have full operating control" and then they moved everything to India.

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  • [–] 11 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Same, still got the devkit 1 and 2 in my cellar.

    Really looking forward to the Steam Frame to finally get standalone VR without Meta involvement.

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  • [–] 85 points 10 months ago* (3 children)

    It's infuriating, really.

    Add 1 Jan 1970.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago

    I just pick random shit. Pretty sure Steam thinks I'm 113 years old.

    Admittedly this did backfire once when a company wanted my birthday to verify my ID to unlock an account. They were surprised I lied and I was surprised people don't.

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    [–] 55 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    I just set mine to the beginning of time: Jan 01, 1970.

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  • [–] 49 points 10 months ago*

    Thankfully I haven't had to use any Meta products for a while now, and as far as Alphabet is considered I'll turn 126 years old on 01/01/2026 and live where my country's parliament building is. Because fuck them, that's why.

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  • [–] 31 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    I can't even access any Fakebook crap, because I have blocked any Zuckerbot service since a long time. It don't exist anymore for me in the web.

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    [–] 30 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    I deleted Facebook 12 years ago. Just join me on the fediverse like Mbin or Mastodon.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago

    Mastodon is pretty awful still. Microblogging in general is awful but Mastodon has some particularly (in my opinion) awful fundamental design decisions. I don't want to hate on them, so I won't discuss what those things are. I appreciate that it exists and hope it does see more adoption but it's just not for me, and I don't know that it ever will be.

    Add to that that I've never spoken to a human IRL that even knows what it is, and it's not because I don't ask. And that makes social media pretty unsocial.

    Facebook has a ridiculous number of things you can do with a single account. On fedi those things all require different accounts and require people to follow all those different accounts. Bonfire looks like it may be a potential solution for that in the future.

    Not saying that Facebook is great, at all, but that fedi isn't really a suitable alternative.

    At the end of the day people obviously just don't care enough about any of these problems and have no self-respect and I've just pretty much sequestered myself from society entirely.

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  • [–] 25 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    on that note I finally deleted facebook. Goodbye meta!

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  • [–] 22 points 10 months ago (6 children)

    Just lie and make up a fake birthday

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  • [–] 14 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    And a fake name.

    And a fake face.

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago* (2 children)

    I don't think they care if its your real birthday. They just want the data. Deny them the data, don't use the service.

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  • [–] 21 points 10 months ago

    Oh, goody! Maybe they'll send me a present! Can I send them my address, too, so they know where to mail it? Meta is so nice!

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  • [–] 20 points 10 months ago (7 children)

    I've had an account under a nickname for coordinating dog meetups for ages. One day the account was suddenly blocked without prior notice and the only way they would let me in again is by giving them my ID, which would not help as the account was under my nick and I would never give them my ID anyway. They didn't even let me delete that effing zombie account without identifying my name as real or even just change the Nick to something FB recognises as real name.

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  • [–] 12 points 10 months ago (6 children)

    They'll ghost you even if you do give them everything they ask for. I can't even make a new account under my real name or anything close to it anymore.

    It sucks it's the only realistic platform for discovering and getting info from interest groups in my area.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    the only realistic platform

    you know of, I don't know where you live (nor do I want to) but alternatives do exist and if not you can self host some.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (4 children)

    Ah shit you're right! They're going to love having their social media on stevesbasement.social. So accessible to the general public!

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (3 children)

    Your sarcasm and learned helplessness help BigTech. I didn't say it was easy, I said it was feasible.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago* (2 children)

    I'm not denying it's technically feasible. I do deny learned helplessness. I have limited energy in life. Using it on making a change I'm not passionate about is a recipe for severe burnout. If i get more involved and find there's sentiment towards a migration away from FB then I'd spend some energy on building and facilitating that. Barging in and making demands isn't an effective way to build community. You can introduce ideas and develop them over time to show that it comes from care for and dedication to the org.

    So yeah it's unrealistic on the time scales I'm concerned with.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (1 child)

    When you generalize your position about your available time and technical knowledge as the limiting factor for everybody you are not saying it's impossible for you, you're saying it's impossible for anybody and everybody. That's the problem. It's like saying "I don't like this food" versus "It tastes bad!". For you they are equivalent, for others they are totally different. I'm not saying you, or anybody else, should learn about self-hosting (federated) social platforms then set some up, what I'm rejecting instead is giving up pre-emptively on the behalf of others because it's giving power back to BigTech.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    I haven't generalized anything beyond the extents of

    1. my area geographically
    2. The groups in my area which i interact with
    3. An individuals weight within a community over time.

    I have not said it's impossible to do for me and have made no claim on the ability for others to do it.

    I'll give you so much as i didn't append "for me" or "in my situation" to every sentence, but the statements lay within the context provided in the rest of the post.

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  • [–] 20 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    I went as far as scanning my passport for these @ssholes and they still banned me 😂 to this day I have no clue why

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  • [–] 16 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    December 7, 1941.

    How to tell the techs you're lying without telling the client

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    [–] 16 points 10 months ago

    Delete your facebook accounts

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  • [–] 15 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    Don't they already have shadow profiles on all of us, even if we don't use Facebook? I long ago figured that they're able to get ahold of all the info they want on us without our consent. Is tracking our habits and relationships not enough? Even if the idea is to use this as age verification, I highly doubt Facebook's as clueless as to not have a ballpark estimate on all of us by now. (Or did the introduction of AI break things so bad that they can no longer deduce the sort of data they want? Hey, I can dream.)

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    I've heard that, but I've searched for my name on Facebook and I never find anything about myself. My wife has a Facebook account, she has the app on her phone and tablet, and I've had cause to use it. Like she'll tell me to go into her messages and get a recipe or something. I don't read them, but we don't keep secrets from each other. Anyway, I'll be bored in a car ride and I'll start looking up my coworkers, and laugh at the dumb shit they post (that could identify them/their location to strangers). Once in a while I'll look myself up. I'm not a public figure, per se, but I do have imitators, so if you look my name up, first and last, a couple profiles will come up, but they have nothing to do with me and they don't have any information that matches mine. I don't know if those are the "shadow profiles" people talk about, but they are not a threat to me.

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  • [–] 11 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    I've heard that, but I've searched for my name on Facebook and I never find anything about myself

    Yeah, you won't. That's why they're called shadow profiles. But if one day you do sign up you'll find Facebook already knows who all of your friends are and what your interests are, etc.

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    [–] 13 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    My birthday is always January 1st of 2000. It used to be in 20th century but I didn’t want to give away my real age.

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  • [–] 13 points 10 months ago

    wtf I deleted my account a year ago.

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  • [–] 13 points 10 months ago

    First they forced giving phone number, now DoB...

    Btw they purged me for not providing them my phone number.

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  • [–] 12 points 10 months ago

    Was unaware of the steam frame, thanks for putting them on my radar! Wonder how they'll fare as a monitor replacement for dev work. I've seen people use the apple goggles for that because they're pretty high res. Seemed pretty cool

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    I understand there's arguments about "this is not new, they've been working on VR for a decade" - fine, but it's Zuckerberg, who apparently never does anything in good faith (see: the Winklevoss twins, Whatsapp, Snapchat, Libra, etc)

    I'm sure they only have VR in order to onboard people to blue app. People have gotten banned and their only recourse is to buy an Oculus. Convenient.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago*

    Wasn’t that the obvious deal from the beginning? You buy the subsidized hardware and ignore Facebook’s gravity as long as you can. That’s the catch for the low price.

    Anyone who thought otherwise is, well, thinking wishfully.

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  • [–] 10 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    A good opportunity to ditch Meta if you're still using it for some reason.

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  • [–] 10 points 10 months ago

    just set it to the January 1st of whichever year would make you 13 when you registered your account 😏 (I remember a platform deleting the account of someone when they, years later, revealed that they were under 13 when they registered)

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    This is why tech giants want to dissolve governments and the regulatory agencies.

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago

    I'll sell them my birth date information. They already got their filthy lucre from buying and selling my name all over the place, why shouldn't I get a cut from things I own?

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