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[–] 36 points 10 months ago (1 child)

What's wrong with carrying a swiss army knife? I always have it with me. It's been with me at all my dates. No tree carving, though.

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  • [–] 157 points 10 months ago (69 children)

    Why are people so weirded out by one of the oldest tools we have?

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  • [–] 56 points 10 months ago* (12 children)

    I agree.

    Boy Scouts used to get jack knives in 3rd grade.

    My pacifist mom brought me all the guns I wanted when I was a kid; by the time I was about 12 I decided guns were for little boys and put all of mine away. Never felt the need to own one.

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  • [–] 11 points 10 months ago (7 children)

    and put all of mine away

    Mines too?!

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  • [–] 12 points 10 months ago (6 children)

    The landmine is a purely defensive weapon, unlike a gun.

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Depends on how you use the gun. But that's the thing about landmines, you "plant" them rather than "use" them, and pure fate alone is the arbiter of the mine's "use." Landmines kill indiscriminately, they don't care what team you're on, how old you are, if you're even a combatant at all or just a 6yo civilian child, but a gun at least requires a person to make the decision to act or not. It is for this reason that I contend while guns can be (not always are) used morally, landmines cannot, even when they do happen to find a "correct" target.

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  • [–] 33 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    People are utterly terrified by the idea of something that could cause consequences if wielded improperly.

    Or, stated another way:

    People are terrified not just of accountability, but of potential, theoretical accountability.

    Hyperconsumerism?

    0 attention span?

    Things are supposed to all be instant, temporary and ephemeral, nothing that implies the potential of long term consequences can be considered without a level of genuine terror.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    I think a sizeable factor for the disdain is that EDC-bro that everyone knows who use their knife for everything even when the proper tool is right next to them. Or even the ones who carry an assault-type knife (like a karambit) holstered on their belt just for showing it off.

    Those specific people sorta remind me of those fedora-bros where they think of it as an status symbol.

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  • [+] -13 points 10 months ago (11 children)

    Have fun explaining to your date why you have a knife while they make this face.

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  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago (9 children)

    Huh, you must get afraid in a steak restaurant.

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  • [+] -9 points 10 months ago (8 children)

    Follow the thread, this is about whipping a knife out on a date by a tree, presumably with no witnesses.

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  • [–] 16 points 10 months ago

    It would only be concerning on the first couple dates and mostly because of the declaration of love on a first dates less so the knife. I would imagine if they're in the heart carving phase she would know he carries a knife by then.

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    Making shit up doesn't help your argument.

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  • [+] -6 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    What did I make up? The no witnesses? You're right, carving in trees on dates is usually done with lots of people around.

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  • [+] -41 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (39 children)
  • [–] 38 points 10 months ago

    Knife access is needed frequently enough to warrant at least a nice a little slip joint. You can use them to trim loose threads, open boxes, trim plastic tabs/flashings, dig out splinters, remove bee stings...

    My wife asks to borrow a knife most days, and when I'm not carrying one, she gets flustered, yet refuse to bring her own.

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  • [–] 17 points 10 months ago (11 children)

    Depends on the knife really. Even just a 1” non-locking blade on a multitool has excellent utility.

    It’s a balance between usefulness and looking like a Crocodile Dundee cosplayer. You take what’s appropriate for where you’re going.

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  • [+] -27 points 10 months ago (8 children)

    A smaller blade is less dangerous but not safe. You wouldn't give a 3 year old a multitool with an exposed knife.

    And the second part of the argument was that you don't need that utility all the time. 99% of the society can get their things done without carrying a knife around.

    Thus someone constantly carrying around a potentially dangerous tool would look weird. I'm sure a hammer would also have great versatility but when you see someone casually lugging a hammer around you wouldn't find it weird?

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  • [–] 30 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    "A toddler shouldn't have one, so there's no reason to ever carry one."

    Do you even listen to yourself?

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  • [–] 23 points 10 months ago*

    You can do 99% of things without carrying a GPS, phone, internet browser, 3 cameras, a compass, an MP3 player, a TV and contents of the Library of Congress around, but no one bats an eye about someone bringing their modern smartphone literally everywhere.

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  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

    A smaller blade is less dangerous but not safe. You wouldn't give a 3 year old a multitool with an exposed knife.

    You wouldn't let a 3 year old cook dinner for himself either. A guy owning an oven is a huge red flag

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  • [–] 30 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    When I worked at a fast food place I would bring a knife every day, because one of the things you do a lot of is opening boxes and bags and tearing them open with gloves on sucks ass. You seem to be under the impression that pocket knives are chainsaws lol

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  • [+] -10 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    You should have asked for a utility knife or box cutter. If you got hurt using your knife, the company could easily draw out and possibly dismiss a WC claim citing unauthorized equipment.

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  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago

    I had a shitty job where I was opening lots of boxes for one of my duties but no cutting implements were provided. I asked and it was gently implied that sharp implements would not be provided to anyone in the building and that brining your own was strongly frowned upon. That was...interesting

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago

    This does depend on where you live. In a dense city where you always have access to stores and services, it's not as vital. Meanwhile someone who lives and works in an isolated area would want to keep more tools on them or in their vehicle (flashlight, first aid kit, lighter, multitool/knife, etc)

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  • [–] 10 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Knives are dangerous. No argument there. Hell, my car keys can be dangerous too. But they are also utilitarian in a lot of different and innocent situations. Having a simple pocket knife is not a bad idea.

    1. Cutting open boxes
    2. Cutting wire or string or that flat plastic tie used in packing
    3. Stripping wire
    4. Dislodging items
    5. Scraping things
    6. Peeling apples
    7. Whittling

    The point is, I’d be less concerned about somebody having a pocket knife than a gun. But, that may be because I’m from the South and it’s more common down here; not that guns aren’t common, but that knives are very common.

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  • [–] -4 points 10 months ago (7 children)

    Can you explain in detail HOW knives are dangerous? Like more dangerous than the internal combustion engine.

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago

    They might cut their fingers while using it to cut their food, they haven’t graduated to forks yet so the likelihood of it is high. And that’s with mom’s supervision.

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  • [+] -5 points 10 months ago (6 children)
  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    A knife is about as "inherently dangerous" as milk. Properly kept, it's never going to be an issue. Accidently leave it on the floor, and someone can slip or get cut.

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  • [–] 0 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    Being responsible dos not remove a danger from existence. Accidents can still happen. Intent can change. The danger is always present. You even acknowledge this in n your last sentence.

    Yes, being responsible and respectful of a dangerous item (e.g. knife, gun, whatever) is always good, and will minimize the danger. But the danger is always present, and thus always requires the responsibility and respect.

    I still believe my original point stands.

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  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

    My point was that spilled milk is just as, if not more dangerous than a knife. Everything in life has a degree of risk. Part of being an adult is managing or accepting those risks. You can roll off your bed and get hurt, does this mean that there is no place in society for bedframes? Perfectly healthy people are going to die or get seriously injured from falling down stairs today, shouldn't we ban multi-level housing as a response? Probably hundreds of people are going to get cut or die from a knives today, is that a reason not to carry one?

    For me, no. I have lots of useful things I do daily with a knife. Not carrying a knife when I needed one has caused me many more issues than carrying a knife when I didn't. However, if you live in a perfect pampered world where you never need to cut, slice, open, poke, pry, trim, shave or shape anything, I could see why carrying a little pocket folder might be an unnecessary risk. I live in a safe place where crime is low and dangerous wild animals are few, so I don't carry a firearm, it's an unnecessary risk and an uncomfortable inconvenience for what I would get out of it.

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  • [–] -1 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    You seem to have come under the impression that I’m against knives.

    I am not.

    I was also calling HikingVet out for what I believe was a bad faith argument.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago

    Hey dude, you are more likely to be fatality injured by an engine in your day to day life. The comparison was to point out the absurdity of the hysterical method which people use to adress the topic of knives. So...

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  • [+] -13 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    turns out knife nuts are just as stupid and crazy as gun nuts...

    Best to just ignore the type of person who carries a weapon like a women carries a full makeup kit.

    Both do it for the same reason, impressing men but neither will acknowledge it and get irrationally defensive if it's pointed out.

    If this wasn't true, they would be downvoting, they'd just ignore it and move on, like a real man but they can't because they aren't.

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    The opinel I carry only seems like a weapon to the weakest and softest whiny diaperbabies.

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    [–] 22 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (7 children)

    Whenever I see this, I think of an Encyclopedia Brown story. I don't remember the whole story, but somehow culpability for the crime he was investigating was proven by initials that had been carved in a tree long ago and thus were now high up on the tree, as it had apparently grown considerably in the interim.

    He proved that this was fraudulent, as trees grow from the top rather than the bottom, so the initials would have been at roughly the height at which they were initially placed.

    edit: Grammar.

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  • [–] 11 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    Dude I loved the concept of Encyclopedia Brown but so many of the resolutions revolve around the most obscure of knowledge. Like yeah you get to figure out who don it but holy crap relying on knowing the exact dimensions of a US dollar bill to identify the coin collector as the culprit is quite a stretch for 8-12 year olds

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  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Wasn't knowing obscure knowledge the concept of Encyclopedia Brown?

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    I meant it's the whole you have to try to figure out who was lying before reading the last part. I'm realizing as I type this it could've entirely not been an intentional part of the reading experience of those books and just something my mom inserted when she was reading them to me

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago

    The problem with the encyclopedia brown crime-solving was that everything was predicated on being guilty until proven innocent. Almost every single one of his 'cases' was never really solved, the perp usually just confessed as soon as a single lie was 'proven.'

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  • [–] 18 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    *at least one of them

    You've never gotten into a romantic knife fight with your beloved? Way more exciting than wrestling.

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  • [–] 17 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Has this person never heard of swiss army knives?

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  • [–] 69 points 10 months ago (14 children)

    Some reason? I always carry a knife.

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  • [–] [S] 24 points 10 months ago (2 children)
  • [+] -27 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (10 children)

    Why the fuck would someone need to carry a knife at all times?!?

    Edit: Geez guys okay okay it was a joke dammit!!

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  • [–] 30 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    They're useful if you spend a lot of time outdoors or in almost every blue collar job.

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  • [+] -28 points 10 months ago (1 child)
  • [–] 16 points 10 months ago*

    When I worked at a fast food place I would bring a knife every day, because one of the things you do a lot of is opening boxes and bags and tearing them open with gloves on sucks ass.

    Especially breaking down the goddamn soft drink bag boxes. Those things are glued up tighter than fort knox.

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  • [–] 11 points 10 months ago

    Because every day im forced to drive an incredibly unsafe machine that has the highest chance of anything i interact with to kill me. A machine so unsafe that in the event of a collision, the safety systems could kill me. My knife has a seatbelt cutter and a glassbreaker, as do every one of my knives. Why would you not carry a knife? Do you carry your keys? Or your wallet? Do you out on clothes every day? You act like its some difficult process to grab my knife when i grab my keys.

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago

    Knives can come in many varying sizes and form factors, and can be specialized for usage in many practical and commonly encountered situations.

    Utility knives take this concept further and often feature multiple additional, opposable heads geared toward other common household uses, such as screw driver heads, bottle openers, nail files, or even little teensy weensy scissors.

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  • [–] 14 points 10 months ago

    It's kind of a compliment.

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