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[+] Goodeye8@piefed.social -41 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (39 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 39 child comments replies: [–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 38 points 10 months ago Knife access is needed frequently enough to warrant at least a nice a little slip joint. You can use them to trim loose threads, open boxes, trim plastic tabs/flashings, dig out splinters, remove bee stings... My wife asks to borrow a knife most days, and when I'm not carrying one, she gets flustered, yet refuse to bring her own. permalink fedilink source parent [–] brap@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago (11 children) Depends on the knife really. Even just a 1” non-locking blade on a multitool has excellent utility. It’s a balance between usefulness and looking like a Crocodile Dundee cosplayer. You take what’s appropriate for where you’re going. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 15 points 10 months ago (1 child) I would say that locking blades a generally safer for the user than a non-locking blade. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] brap@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago Absolutely. Sometimes jobs exceed the abilities of a non-locker and then it gets dangerous. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Goodeye8@piefed.social -27 points 10 months ago (8 children) A smaller blade is less dangerous but not safe. You wouldn't give a 3 year old a multitool with an exposed knife. And the second part of the argument was that you don't need that utility all the time. 99% of the society can get their things done without carrying a knife around. Thus someone constantly carrying around a potentially dangerous tool would look weird. I'm sure a hammer would also have great versatility but when you see someone casually lugging a hammer around you wouldn't find it weird? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] 5in1k@lemmy.zip 19 points 10 months ago (1 child) I’m not 3, I am a competent adult. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 10 points 10 months ago I personally wouldn't go that far, but I'm not 3 either. permalink fedilink source parent [–] pixeltree@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 10 months ago In a enormously consumerist society with a lot of packaging, why is it weird to carry a package opening tool? permalink fedilink source parent [–] village604@adultswim.fan 30 points 10 months ago (2 children) "A toddler shouldn't have one, so there's no reason to ever carry one." Do you even listen to yourself? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] EtherWhack@lemmy.world -10 points 10 months ago (1 child) Uhh... They mentioned a toddler to enforce the argument that a knife, regardless of size, still carries an inherent risk of cutting oneself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 16 points 10 months ago And a pencil carries an inherent risk of poking ones self. Is it unreasonable to carry a pencil with you? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago* You can do 99% of things without carrying a GPS, phone, internet browser, 3 cameras, a compass, an MP3 player, a TV and contents of the Library of Congress around, but no one bats an eye about someone bringing their modern smartphone literally everywhere. permalink fedilink source parent [–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) A smaller blade is less dangerous but not safe. You wouldn't give a 3 year old a multitool with an exposed knife. You wouldn't let a 3 year old cook dinner for himself either. A guy owning an oven is a huge red flag permalink fedilink source parent [–] pixeltree@lemmy.blahaj.zone 30 points 10 months ago (3 children) When I worked at a fast food place I would bring a knife every day, because one of the things you do a lot of is opening boxes and bags and tearing them open with gloves on sucks ass. You seem to be under the impression that pocket knives are chainsaws lol permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] EtherWhack@lemmy.world -10 points 10 months ago (2 children) You should have asked for a utility knife or box cutter. If you got hurt using your knife, the company could easily draw out and possibly dismiss a WC claim citing unauthorized equipment. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pixeltree@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 10 months ago I did, the manager shrugged and told me to borrow the knife another employee brought in lol permalink fedilink source parent [–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 8 points 10 months ago I had a shitty job where I was opening lots of boxes for one of my duties but no cutting implements were provided. I asked and it was gently implied that sharp implements would not be provided to anyone in the building and that brining your own was strongly frowned upon. That was...interesting permalink fedilink source parent [–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago no, you're just wrong. permalink fedilink source parent [–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 8 points 10 months ago I'm flabbergasted as to how you managed to live long enough to learn the English language, and never had to, like, open a box permalink fedilink source parent [–] otter@lemmy.ca 7 points 10 months ago This does depend on where you live. In a dense city where you always have access to stores and services, it's not as vital. Meanwhile someone who lives and works in an isolated area would want to keep more tools on them or in their vehicle (flashlight, first aid kit, lighter, multitool/knife, etc) permalink fedilink source parent [–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago (3 children) Knives are dangerous. No argument there. Hell, my car keys can be dangerous too. But they are also utilitarian in a lot of different and innocent situations. Having a simple pocket knife is not a bad idea. Cutting open boxes Cutting wire or string or that flat plastic tie used in packing Stripping wire Dislodging items Scraping things Peeling apples Whittling The point is, I’d be less concerned about somebody having a pocket knife than a gun. But, that may be because I’m from the South and it’s more common down here; not that guns aren’t common, but that knives are very common. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago (1 child) Scraping things Remind me not to loan you my knife. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] white_nrdy@programming.dev 3 points 10 months ago Same with "dislodging items" permalink fedilink source parent [–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 1 point 10 months ago Hell, my car keys can be dangerous too. I would bet money that the person you're talking to thinks we shouldn't be allowed to drive cars either permalink fedilink source parent [–] 5in1k@lemmy.zip 11 points 10 months ago Enjoy your soft bubble wrap life. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip 2 points 10 months ago Tell that to the EU beurocracts that put a stupid tab in the plastic bottle caps that I now have to cut. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca -4 points 10 months ago (7 children) Can you explain in detail HOW knives are dangerous? Like more dangerous than the internal combustion engine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] 5in1k@lemmy.zip 6 points 10 months ago They might cut their fingers while using it to cut their food, they haven’t graduated to forks yet so the likelihood of it is high. And that’s with mom’s supervision. permalink fedilink source parent [+] dohpaz42@lemmy.world -5 points 10 months ago (6 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago (5 children) A knife is about as "inherently dangerous" as milk. Properly kept, it's never going to be an issue. Accidently leave it on the floor, and someone can slip or get cut. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (4 children) Being responsible dos not remove a danger from existence. Accidents can still happen. Intent can change. The danger is always present. You even acknowledge this in n your last sentence. Yes, being responsible and respectful of a dangerous item (e.g. knife, gun, whatever) is always good, and will minimize the danger. But the danger is always present, and thus always requires the responsibility and respect. I still believe my original point stands. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children) My point was that spilled milk is just as, if not more dangerous than a knife. Everything in life has a degree of risk. Part of being an adult is managing or accepting those risks. You can roll off your bed and get hurt, does this mean that there is no place in society for bedframes? Perfectly healthy people are going to die or get seriously injured from falling down stairs today, shouldn't we ban multi-level housing as a response? Probably hundreds of people are going to get cut or die from a knives today, is that a reason not to carry one? For me, no. I have lots of useful things I do daily with a knife. Not carrying a knife when I needed one has caused me many more issues than carrying a knife when I didn't. However, if you live in a perfect pampered world where you never need to cut, slice, open, poke, pry, trim, shave or shape anything, I could see why carrying a little pocket folder might be an unnecessary risk. I live in a safe place where crime is low and dangerous wild animals are few, so I don't carry a firearm, it's an unnecessary risk and an uncomfortable inconvenience for what I would get out of it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago (1 child) You seem to have come under the impression that I’m against knives. I am not. I was also calling HikingVet out for what I believe was a bad faith argument. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago Hey dude, you are more likely to be fatality injured by an engine in your day to day life. The comparison was to point out the absurdity of the hysterical method which people use to adress the topic of knives. So... permalink fedilink source parent [–] 5in1k@lemmy.zip 3 points 10 months ago* The danger is always present. Hahaha, like the knife I have folded in my pocket might suddenly attack me at any moment. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) [+] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com -13 points 10 months ago (4 children) turns out knife nuts are just as stupid and crazy as gun nuts... Best to just ignore the type of person who carries a weapon like a women carries a full makeup kit. Both do it for the same reason, impressing men but neither will acknowledge it and get irrationally defensive if it's pointed out. If this wasn't true, they would be downvoting, they'd just ignore it and move on, like a real man but they can't because they aren't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] 5in1k@lemmy.zip 5 points 10 months ago (3 children) The opinel I carry only seems like a weapon to the weakest and softest whiny diaperbabies. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 10 months ago* I have no skin in this game, but you just proved their point. You're irrationally defensive in here, it's intense. Really bad vibes. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com -6 points 10 months ago (1 child) People need comforting lies. The weakest use sarcasm as a substitute for intelligent discourse. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] 5in1k@lemmy.zip 1 point 10 months ago Whatever you say bubble boy. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 38 points 10 months ago Knife access is needed frequently enough to warrant at least a nice a little slip joint. You can use them to trim loose threads, open boxes, trim plastic tabs/flashings, dig out splinters, remove bee stings... My wife asks to borrow a knife most days, and when I'm not carrying one, she gets flustered, yet refuse to bring her own. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] brap@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago (11 children) Depends on the knife really. Even just a 1” non-locking blade on a multitool has excellent utility. It’s a balance between usefulness and looking like a Crocodile Dundee cosplayer. You take what’s appropriate for where you’re going. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 15 points 10 months ago (1 child) I would say that locking blades a generally safer for the user than a non-locking blade. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] brap@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago Absolutely. Sometimes jobs exceed the abilities of a non-locker and then it gets dangerous. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Goodeye8@piefed.social -27 points 10 months ago (8 children) A smaller blade is less dangerous but not safe. You wouldn't give a 3 year old a multitool with an exposed knife. And the second part of the argument was that you don't need that utility all the time. 99% of the society can get their things done without carrying a knife around. Thus someone constantly carrying around a potentially dangerous tool would look weird. I'm sure a hammer would also have great versatility but when you see someone casually lugging a hammer around you wouldn't find it weird? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] 5in1k@lemmy.zip 19 points 10 months ago (1 child) I’m not 3, I am a competent adult. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 10 points 10 months ago I personally wouldn't go that far, but I'm not 3 either. permalink fedilink source parent [–] pixeltree@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 10 months ago In a enormously consumerist society with a lot of packaging, why is it weird to carry a package opening tool? permalink fedilink source parent [–] village604@adultswim.fan 30 points 10 months ago (2 children) "A toddler shouldn't have one, so there's no reason to ever carry one." Do you even listen to yourself? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] EtherWhack@lemmy.world -10 points 10 months ago (1 child) Uhh... They mentioned a toddler to enforce the argument that a knife, regardless of size, still carries an inherent risk of cutting oneself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 16 points 10 months ago And a pencil carries an inherent risk of poking ones self. Is it unreasonable to carry a pencil with you? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago* You can do 99% of things without carrying a GPS, phone, internet browser, 3 cameras, a compass, an MP3 player, a TV and contents of the Library of Congress around, but no one bats an eye about someone bringing their modern smartphone literally everywhere. permalink fedilink source parent [–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) A smaller blade is less dangerous but not safe. You wouldn't give a 3 year old a multitool with an exposed knife. You wouldn't let a 3 year old cook dinner for himself either. A guy owning an oven is a huge red flag permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 15 points 10 months ago (1 child) I would say that locking blades a generally safer for the user than a non-locking blade. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] brap@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago Absolutely. Sometimes jobs exceed the abilities of a non-locker and then it gets dangerous. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] brap@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago Absolutely. Sometimes jobs exceed the abilities of a non-locker and then it gets dangerous. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Goodeye8@piefed.social -27 points 10 months ago (8 children) A smaller blade is less dangerous but not safe. You wouldn't give a 3 year old a multitool with an exposed knife. And the second part of the argument was that you don't need that utility all the time. 99% of the society can get their things done without carrying a knife around. Thus someone constantly carrying around a potentially dangerous tool would look weird. I'm sure a hammer would also have great versatility but when you see someone casually lugging a hammer around you wouldn't find it weird? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] 5in1k@lemmy.zip 19 points 10 months ago (1 child) I’m not 3, I am a competent adult. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 10 points 10 months ago I personally wouldn't go that far, but I'm not 3 either. permalink fedilink source parent [–] pixeltree@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 10 months ago In a enormously consumerist society with a lot of packaging, why is it weird to carry a package opening tool? permalink fedilink source parent [–] village604@adultswim.fan 30 points 10 months ago (2 children) "A toddler shouldn't have one, so there's no reason to ever carry one." Do you even listen to yourself? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] EtherWhack@lemmy.world -10 points 10 months ago (1 child) Uhh... They mentioned a toddler to enforce the argument that a knife, regardless of size, still carries an inherent risk of cutting oneself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 16 points 10 months ago And a pencil carries an inherent risk of poking ones self. Is it unreasonable to carry a pencil with you? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago* You can do 99% of things without carrying a GPS, phone, internet browser, 3 cameras, a compass, an MP3 player, a TV and contents of the Library of Congress around, but no one bats an eye about someone bringing their modern smartphone literally everywhere. permalink fedilink source parent [–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) A smaller blade is less dangerous but not safe. You wouldn't give a 3 year old a multitool with an exposed knife. You wouldn't let a 3 year old cook dinner for himself either. A guy owning an oven is a huge red flag permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 5in1k@lemmy.zip 19 points 10 months ago (1 child) I’m not 3, I am a competent adult. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 10 points 10 months ago I personally wouldn't go that far, but I'm not 3 either. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 10 points 10 months ago I personally wouldn't go that far, but I'm not 3 either. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pixeltree@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 10 months ago In a enormously consumerist society with a lot of packaging, why is it weird to carry a package opening tool? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] village604@adultswim.fan 30 points 10 months ago (2 children) "A toddler shouldn't have one, so there's no reason to ever carry one." Do you even listen to yourself? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] EtherWhack@lemmy.world -10 points 10 months ago (1 child) Uhh... They mentioned a toddler to enforce the argument that a knife, regardless of size, still carries an inherent risk of cutting oneself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 16 points 10 months ago And a pencil carries an inherent risk of poking ones self. Is it unreasonable to carry a pencil with you? permalink fedilink source parent
[+] EtherWhack@lemmy.world -10 points 10 months ago (1 child) Uhh... They mentioned a toddler to enforce the argument that a knife, regardless of size, still carries an inherent risk of cutting oneself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 16 points 10 months ago And a pencil carries an inherent risk of poking ones self. Is it unreasonable to carry a pencil with you? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] village604@adultswim.fan 16 points 10 months ago And a pencil carries an inherent risk of poking ones self. Is it unreasonable to carry a pencil with you? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago* You can do 99% of things without carrying a GPS, phone, internet browser, 3 cameras, a compass, an MP3 player, a TV and contents of the Library of Congress around, but no one bats an eye about someone bringing their modern smartphone literally everywhere. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) A smaller blade is less dangerous but not safe. You wouldn't give a 3 year old a multitool with an exposed knife. You wouldn't let a 3 year old cook dinner for himself either. A guy owning an oven is a huge red flag permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pixeltree@lemmy.blahaj.zone 30 points 10 months ago (3 children) When I worked at a fast food place I would bring a knife every day, because one of the things you do a lot of is opening boxes and bags and tearing them open with gloves on sucks ass. You seem to be under the impression that pocket knives are chainsaws lol permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] EtherWhack@lemmy.world -10 points 10 months ago (2 children) You should have asked for a utility knife or box cutter. If you got hurt using your knife, the company could easily draw out and possibly dismiss a WC claim citing unauthorized equipment. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pixeltree@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 10 months ago I did, the manager shrugged and told me to borrow the knife another employee brought in lol permalink fedilink source parent [–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 8 points 10 months ago I had a shitty job where I was opening lots of boxes for one of my duties but no cutting implements were provided. I asked and it was gently implied that sharp implements would not be provided to anyone in the building and that brining your own was strongly frowned upon. That was...interesting permalink fedilink source parent
[+] EtherWhack@lemmy.world -10 points 10 months ago (2 children) You should have asked for a utility knife or box cutter. If you got hurt using your knife, the company could easily draw out and possibly dismiss a WC claim citing unauthorized equipment. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pixeltree@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 10 months ago I did, the manager shrugged and told me to borrow the knife another employee brought in lol permalink fedilink source parent [–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 8 points 10 months ago I had a shitty job where I was opening lots of boxes for one of my duties but no cutting implements were provided. I asked and it was gently implied that sharp implements would not be provided to anyone in the building and that brining your own was strongly frowned upon. That was...interesting permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pixeltree@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 10 months ago I did, the manager shrugged and told me to borrow the knife another employee brought in lol permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 8 points 10 months ago I had a shitty job where I was opening lots of boxes for one of my duties but no cutting implements were provided. I asked and it was gently implied that sharp implements would not be provided to anyone in the building and that brining your own was strongly frowned upon. That was...interesting permalink fedilink source parent
[–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago no, you're just wrong. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 8 points 10 months ago I'm flabbergasted as to how you managed to live long enough to learn the English language, and never had to, like, open a box permalink fedilink source parent
[–] otter@lemmy.ca 7 points 10 months ago This does depend on where you live. In a dense city where you always have access to stores and services, it's not as vital. Meanwhile someone who lives and works in an isolated area would want to keep more tools on them or in their vehicle (flashlight, first aid kit, lighter, multitool/knife, etc) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago (3 children) Knives are dangerous. No argument there. Hell, my car keys can be dangerous too. But they are also utilitarian in a lot of different and innocent situations. Having a simple pocket knife is not a bad idea. Cutting open boxes Cutting wire or string or that flat plastic tie used in packing Stripping wire Dislodging items Scraping things Peeling apples Whittling The point is, I’d be less concerned about somebody having a pocket knife than a gun. But, that may be because I’m from the South and it’s more common down here; not that guns aren’t common, but that knives are very common. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago (1 child) Scraping things Remind me not to loan you my knife. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] white_nrdy@programming.dev 3 points 10 months ago Same with "dislodging items" permalink fedilink source parent [–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 1 point 10 months ago Hell, my car keys can be dangerous too. I would bet money that the person you're talking to thinks we shouldn't be allowed to drive cars either permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago (1 child) Scraping things Remind me not to loan you my knife. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] white_nrdy@programming.dev 3 points 10 months ago Same with "dislodging items" permalink fedilink source parent
[–] white_nrdy@programming.dev 3 points 10 months ago Same with "dislodging items" permalink fedilink source parent
[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 1 point 10 months ago Hell, my car keys can be dangerous too. I would bet money that the person you're talking to thinks we shouldn't be allowed to drive cars either permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 5in1k@lemmy.zip 11 points 10 months ago Enjoy your soft bubble wrap life. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip 2 points 10 months ago Tell that to the EU beurocracts that put a stupid tab in the plastic bottle caps that I now have to cut. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca -4 points 10 months ago (7 children) Can you explain in detail HOW knives are dangerous? Like more dangerous than the internal combustion engine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] 5in1k@lemmy.zip 6 points 10 months ago They might cut their fingers while using it to cut their food, they haven’t graduated to forks yet so the likelihood of it is high. And that’s with mom’s supervision. permalink fedilink source parent [+] dohpaz42@lemmy.world -5 points 10 months ago (6 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago (5 children) A knife is about as "inherently dangerous" as milk. Properly kept, it's never going to be an issue. Accidently leave it on the floor, and someone can slip or get cut. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (4 children) Being responsible dos not remove a danger from existence. Accidents can still happen. Intent can change. The danger is always present. You even acknowledge this in n your last sentence. Yes, being responsible and respectful of a dangerous item (e.g. knife, gun, whatever) is always good, and will minimize the danger. But the danger is always present, and thus always requires the responsibility and respect. I still believe my original point stands. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children) My point was that spilled milk is just as, if not more dangerous than a knife. Everything in life has a degree of risk. Part of being an adult is managing or accepting those risks. You can roll off your bed and get hurt, does this mean that there is no place in society for bedframes? Perfectly healthy people are going to die or get seriously injured from falling down stairs today, shouldn't we ban multi-level housing as a response? Probably hundreds of people are going to get cut or die from a knives today, is that a reason not to carry one? For me, no. I have lots of useful things I do daily with a knife. Not carrying a knife when I needed one has caused me many more issues than carrying a knife when I didn't. However, if you live in a perfect pampered world where you never need to cut, slice, open, poke, pry, trim, shave or shape anything, I could see why carrying a little pocket folder might be an unnecessary risk. I live in a safe place where crime is low and dangerous wild animals are few, so I don't carry a firearm, it's an unnecessary risk and an uncomfortable inconvenience for what I would get out of it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago (1 child) You seem to have come under the impression that I’m against knives. I am not. I was also calling HikingVet out for what I believe was a bad faith argument. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago Hey dude, you are more likely to be fatality injured by an engine in your day to day life. The comparison was to point out the absurdity of the hysterical method which people use to adress the topic of knives. So... permalink fedilink source parent [–] 5in1k@lemmy.zip 3 points 10 months ago* The danger is always present. Hahaha, like the knife I have folded in my pocket might suddenly attack me at any moment. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] 5in1k@lemmy.zip 6 points 10 months ago They might cut their fingers while using it to cut their food, they haven’t graduated to forks yet so the likelihood of it is high. And that’s with mom’s supervision. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] dohpaz42@lemmy.world -5 points 10 months ago (6 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago (5 children) A knife is about as "inherently dangerous" as milk. Properly kept, it's never going to be an issue. Accidently leave it on the floor, and someone can slip or get cut. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (4 children) Being responsible dos not remove a danger from existence. Accidents can still happen. Intent can change. The danger is always present. You even acknowledge this in n your last sentence. Yes, being responsible and respectful of a dangerous item (e.g. knife, gun, whatever) is always good, and will minimize the danger. But the danger is always present, and thus always requires the responsibility and respect. I still believe my original point stands. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children) My point was that spilled milk is just as, if not more dangerous than a knife. Everything in life has a degree of risk. Part of being an adult is managing or accepting those risks. You can roll off your bed and get hurt, does this mean that there is no place in society for bedframes? Perfectly healthy people are going to die or get seriously injured from falling down stairs today, shouldn't we ban multi-level housing as a response? Probably hundreds of people are going to get cut or die from a knives today, is that a reason not to carry one? For me, no. I have lots of useful things I do daily with a knife. Not carrying a knife when I needed one has caused me many more issues than carrying a knife when I didn't. However, if you live in a perfect pampered world where you never need to cut, slice, open, poke, pry, trim, shave or shape anything, I could see why carrying a little pocket folder might be an unnecessary risk. I live in a safe place where crime is low and dangerous wild animals are few, so I don't carry a firearm, it's an unnecessary risk and an uncomfortable inconvenience for what I would get out of it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago (1 child) You seem to have come under the impression that I’m against knives. I am not. I was also calling HikingVet out for what I believe was a bad faith argument. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago Hey dude, you are more likely to be fatality injured by an engine in your day to day life. The comparison was to point out the absurdity of the hysterical method which people use to adress the topic of knives. So... permalink fedilink source parent [–] 5in1k@lemmy.zip 3 points 10 months ago* The danger is always present. Hahaha, like the knife I have folded in my pocket might suddenly attack me at any moment. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago (5 children) A knife is about as "inherently dangerous" as milk. Properly kept, it's never going to be an issue. Accidently leave it on the floor, and someone can slip or get cut. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (4 children) Being responsible dos not remove a danger from existence. Accidents can still happen. Intent can change. The danger is always present. You even acknowledge this in n your last sentence. Yes, being responsible and respectful of a dangerous item (e.g. knife, gun, whatever) is always good, and will minimize the danger. But the danger is always present, and thus always requires the responsibility and respect. I still believe my original point stands. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children) My point was that spilled milk is just as, if not more dangerous than a knife. Everything in life has a degree of risk. Part of being an adult is managing or accepting those risks. You can roll off your bed and get hurt, does this mean that there is no place in society for bedframes? Perfectly healthy people are going to die or get seriously injured from falling down stairs today, shouldn't we ban multi-level housing as a response? Probably hundreds of people are going to get cut or die from a knives today, is that a reason not to carry one? For me, no. I have lots of useful things I do daily with a knife. Not carrying a knife when I needed one has caused me many more issues than carrying a knife when I didn't. However, if you live in a perfect pampered world where you never need to cut, slice, open, poke, pry, trim, shave or shape anything, I could see why carrying a little pocket folder might be an unnecessary risk. I live in a safe place where crime is low and dangerous wild animals are few, so I don't carry a firearm, it's an unnecessary risk and an uncomfortable inconvenience for what I would get out of it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago (1 child) You seem to have come under the impression that I’m against knives. I am not. I was also calling HikingVet out for what I believe was a bad faith argument. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago Hey dude, you are more likely to be fatality injured by an engine in your day to day life. The comparison was to point out the absurdity of the hysterical method which people use to adress the topic of knives. So... permalink fedilink source parent [–] 5in1k@lemmy.zip 3 points 10 months ago* The danger is always present. Hahaha, like the knife I have folded in my pocket might suddenly attack me at any moment. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (4 children) Being responsible dos not remove a danger from existence. Accidents can still happen. Intent can change. The danger is always present. You even acknowledge this in n your last sentence. Yes, being responsible and respectful of a dangerous item (e.g. knife, gun, whatever) is always good, and will minimize the danger. But the danger is always present, and thus always requires the responsibility and respect. I still believe my original point stands. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children) My point was that spilled milk is just as, if not more dangerous than a knife. Everything in life has a degree of risk. Part of being an adult is managing or accepting those risks. You can roll off your bed and get hurt, does this mean that there is no place in society for bedframes? Perfectly healthy people are going to die or get seriously injured from falling down stairs today, shouldn't we ban multi-level housing as a response? Probably hundreds of people are going to get cut or die from a knives today, is that a reason not to carry one? For me, no. I have lots of useful things I do daily with a knife. Not carrying a knife when I needed one has caused me many more issues than carrying a knife when I didn't. However, if you live in a perfect pampered world where you never need to cut, slice, open, poke, pry, trim, shave or shape anything, I could see why carrying a little pocket folder might be an unnecessary risk. I live in a safe place where crime is low and dangerous wild animals are few, so I don't carry a firearm, it's an unnecessary risk and an uncomfortable inconvenience for what I would get out of it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago (1 child) You seem to have come under the impression that I’m against knives. I am not. I was also calling HikingVet out for what I believe was a bad faith argument. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago Hey dude, you are more likely to be fatality injured by an engine in your day to day life. The comparison was to point out the absurdity of the hysterical method which people use to adress the topic of knives. So... permalink fedilink source parent [–] 5in1k@lemmy.zip 3 points 10 months ago* The danger is always present. Hahaha, like the knife I have folded in my pocket might suddenly attack me at any moment. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children) My point was that spilled milk is just as, if not more dangerous than a knife. Everything in life has a degree of risk. Part of being an adult is managing or accepting those risks. You can roll off your bed and get hurt, does this mean that there is no place in society for bedframes? Perfectly healthy people are going to die or get seriously injured from falling down stairs today, shouldn't we ban multi-level housing as a response? Probably hundreds of people are going to get cut or die from a knives today, is that a reason not to carry one? For me, no. I have lots of useful things I do daily with a knife. Not carrying a knife when I needed one has caused me many more issues than carrying a knife when I didn't. However, if you live in a perfect pampered world where you never need to cut, slice, open, poke, pry, trim, shave or shape anything, I could see why carrying a little pocket folder might be an unnecessary risk. I live in a safe place where crime is low and dangerous wild animals are few, so I don't carry a firearm, it's an unnecessary risk and an uncomfortable inconvenience for what I would get out of it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago (1 child) You seem to have come under the impression that I’m against knives. I am not. I was also calling HikingVet out for what I believe was a bad faith argument. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago Hey dude, you are more likely to be fatality injured by an engine in your day to day life. The comparison was to point out the absurdity of the hysterical method which people use to adress the topic of knives. So... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago (1 child) You seem to have come under the impression that I’m against knives. I am not. I was also calling HikingVet out for what I believe was a bad faith argument. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago Hey dude, you are more likely to be fatality injured by an engine in your day to day life. The comparison was to point out the absurdity of the hysterical method which people use to adress the topic of knives. So... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago Hey dude, you are more likely to be fatality injured by an engine in your day to day life. The comparison was to point out the absurdity of the hysterical method which people use to adress the topic of knives. So... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 5in1k@lemmy.zip 3 points 10 months ago* The danger is always present. Hahaha, like the knife I have folded in my pocket might suddenly attack me at any moment. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com -13 points 10 months ago (4 children) turns out knife nuts are just as stupid and crazy as gun nuts... Best to just ignore the type of person who carries a weapon like a women carries a full makeup kit. Both do it for the same reason, impressing men but neither will acknowledge it and get irrationally defensive if it's pointed out. If this wasn't true, they would be downvoting, they'd just ignore it and move on, like a real man but they can't because they aren't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] 5in1k@lemmy.zip 5 points 10 months ago (3 children) The opinel I carry only seems like a weapon to the weakest and softest whiny diaperbabies. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 10 months ago* I have no skin in this game, but you just proved their point. You're irrationally defensive in here, it's intense. Really bad vibes. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com -6 points 10 months ago (1 child) People need comforting lies. The weakest use sarcasm as a substitute for intelligent discourse. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] 5in1k@lemmy.zip 1 point 10 months ago Whatever you say bubble boy. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 5in1k@lemmy.zip 5 points 10 months ago (3 children) The opinel I carry only seems like a weapon to the weakest and softest whiny diaperbabies. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 10 months ago* I have no skin in this game, but you just proved their point. You're irrationally defensive in here, it's intense. Really bad vibes. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com -6 points 10 months ago (1 child) People need comforting lies. The weakest use sarcasm as a substitute for intelligent discourse. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] 5in1k@lemmy.zip 1 point 10 months ago Whatever you say bubble boy. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 10 months ago* I have no skin in this game, but you just proved their point. You're irrationally defensive in here, it's intense. Really bad vibes. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com -6 points 10 months ago (1 child) People need comforting lies. The weakest use sarcasm as a substitute for intelligent discourse. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] 5in1k@lemmy.zip 1 point 10 months ago Whatever you say bubble boy. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 5in1k@lemmy.zip 1 point 10 months ago Whatever you say bubble boy. permalink fedilink source parent