DISCLAIMER:This joke is homophobic. "Trump being embarrassed for people thinking he had a gay relationship makes him homophobic. Affirming that embarrassment by making it the butt of the joke makes the joke homophobic"

this article explains it well: https://newhumanist.org.uk/articles/5082/the-dangerous-stereotype-of-the-self-hating-homophobe

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[–] 95 points 10 months ago* (13 children)

Holy shit this comment section is either all bots or there's a whole section of lemmy that goes out of its way to deliberately ignore the comedic irony of this.

I hate it because it's ai. You hate it because it's "homophobic??"

As if portraying someone who hates lgbtq people as being lgbtq is anything more than making fun of them for hating lgbtq people.

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago

    …Isn’t it the same thing?

    It’s obviously AI, so it pokes fun at Trump’s shameless embrace of AI misinformation in the same way it pokes at his homophobia. It’s crude, like he is; that’s the point.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (3 children)
  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago* (2 children)

    You think Trump would cuddle and hold hands with anyone?? 😀

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    I don't know, I'm not American, news here disort Trump to make he look good (Brazil btw), my dad is a non-American MAGA now man

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago

    I'm so sorry. One of my neighbours is non-American MAGA as well, and without taking a hammer to my frontal lobe, I don't think I'll ever be able to understand how they see the world. They literally believe sci-fi fantasy shit about giants' bones and "med beds" and cloning politicians.

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  • [+] 16 points 10 months ago (3 children)
  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

    The fediverse was bound to attract the attention to troll factories. That's why its devs need to consider making it more resilient, but unfortunately I get more of an impression they just want a second reddit.

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  • [–] -1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

    It ended up being a lonely kid on the spectrum who lives at home, can't drive and thinks he has a "real job" walking dogs for his book club. Sad and funny.

    He refused therapy. Dbzero admins too. I'm almost as disappointed as their parents.

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  • [–] 22 points 10 months ago (7 children)

    There's a lot of heated statements in here but I don't see the homophobia in this post unless there's more context. In this isolated post, it seems like they're just extending the Epstein release about "Bubba".

    I won't take away from anyone who finds it offensive though. You're completely right to feel that way.

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago

    Also, it's not homophobic to say that homophobes being gay on their private lives, especially if they work to pass policy that makes it worse for gay people, are bad people. It isn't about them being gay. It's about them enjoying a thing while trying to punish others for enjoying that same thing.

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    The homophobia is that the "joke" here is "hahah trump is GAY with BILL CLINTON!"

    Gayness isnt a bad thing. Using it to be insulting to trump means in that instance its perceived as a bad thing. Thats the homophobia.

    Trump is an awful person who has done awful things. "Haha gaaay" isnt useful or funny when the man is a serial rapist, and now murderer

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    I can only speak for myself in detecting homophobia and I'm not always the best judge. I don't want to deny your experience either, I'll just say what I'm seeing:

    There were leaks earlier that someone texted about Trump gave a blowjob or something to someone called Bubba. Then people speculated it was either Bill Clinton or even the nickname of a horse (I think people were just reaching for extremes in the memes).

    Assuming the leak was real and person that sent the message was real and that Bubba was the nickname for Bill Clinton. I think people are just putting out fakes of the evidence of that?

    I don't see anyone saying it's not "manly" to be gay or that being gay is undesirable?

    Like I said, if I twist myself a bit a little too I think I can see the "haha gay people" angle. I just don't think I see it, maybe it's because I would like to think homophobia is so played out I would think they'd make a better joke or that secretly gay politicians is so common now.

    That doesn't mean you're wrong though for sure, just because I can't see it doesn't mean the author's intent isn't there.

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    The implication is that it would be embarrassing for him to have had a gay relationship.

    Trump not wanting people to think that he's gay is the other half of the homophobia, and by making that the butt of the joke, we've affirmed it.

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago

    I think I can see where you're coming from in that way.

    I'm not gay so I'm not as sensitive to these jokes. I am Asian, however, and I dislike "Uncle Roger" for what I think is similar to this. The butt of the joke is that Asian people speak funny. So I think it's similar to what you're saying. The butt of the joke is that it's embarrassing to have a gay relationship.

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    I know this is a meme space, but since there are quite a few comments about whether this is homophobic or not, I’ll leave this article here. Judge for yourself.

    https://newhumanist.org.uk/articles/5082/the-dangerous-stereotype-of-the-self-hating-homophobe

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  • [–] 70 points 10 months ago (15 children)

    Funny, but AI images are lame.

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  • [+] -73 points 10 months ago (12 children)
  • [–] 61 points 10 months ago* (9 children)

    Because, to me (humor is subjective), a person that is so hateful towards LGBTQ people that has a secret life partaking in the same thing would be funny. This image can only hurt you if you let it.

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  • [+] -52 points 10 months ago (8 children)
  • [–] 38 points 10 months ago* (3 children)

    So in your opinion, the only interpretation as to why this is funny is because gay man bad?

    Not the OVERWHELMING, BLINDING, BURNING hypocrisy of the situation? That doesn't factor into it?

    If that's the only explanation you can come up with, maybe you have some homophobia yourself.

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  • [+] -27 points 10 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago

    We understand it's AI. It was created to appear hypocritical. It would be funny if Trump were gay. Not because gay funny but because Trump being gay would be ironic. How do you not see this..?

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  • [–] 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

    As a queer person who started their antifa activity over twenty years ago defending LGBTQ marches baseball bat in hand I find this post fucken hillarious.

    This dosnt even register at such levels for me but around my parts a lot of gay humour is based around use and abuse of slur terms, also to take them back, as was done with "gay" or "queer". Hardly anyone but closeted selfhating guys and the instagram raised youth would have a problem with implying a right wing politician is gay. Preferably in their "gayest" voice to a bunch of terriefied normies. It also might be true for a key figure of our national politics, but that's another story.

    Because most of the staunchest homophobes are gay man with very serious problems with it, followed by weak minded guys trying to be more manly it makes sense to hit that. Addressing and poking fun at that from our, known to be overly "correct" side puts them out of balance, causes rifts, suspicion and rises pressure in their own groups leading to more conflicts and divisions, therby limiting their reach. In my country we had stirred such gossip on purpouse and involuntarily outed some of far right leaders, so now the suspicion persists in their ranks. Their weapon was turned against them.
    Even if you have more issues with such aproach then people who'd been oppressed most their life: it is in fact a war comrade, and you better get around to what that actually means. No one gets out of one both morally impeccable and alive.

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  • [–] 15 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Trump being embarrassed for people thinking he had a gay relationship makes him homophobic

    Affirming that embarrassment by making it the butt of the joke makes the joke homophobic

    Hope that helps.

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  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago

    This is love

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago

    With the amount of lies spewed out of dumps piehole, this is just straight up real in comparison.

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  • [–] 19 points 10 months ago*

    I'm a lesbian. I do not take offense to this image. It's ironic because Trump is so homophobic, and it's also a play on words regarding the legislation referred to as the "Big beautiful bill." You're either a bot, a Trump bootlicker, or you have a touch of the 'tism if you can't understand irony or puns.

    Yes, it's AI. We all know it's AI. That doesn't make it less funny.

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago (19 children)

    Oh, there are rules what can be funny and what can't...

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  • [+] -17 points 10 months ago (18 children)
  • [–] 16 points 10 months ago (17 children)

    You are all over this post. You need to relax. The people here are NOT the people who are doing the bad things out there. Life is easy if you let it be.

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  • [–] 11 points 10 months ago (13 children)

    An "anarchist" giving it all to try and police everyone in the thread is hilarious.

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  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    To be fair anarchy is a political philosophy advocating for a society without rulers, governments, or hierarchical authority, replacing them with voluntary cooperation, free associations, and self-governance based on equality and liberty.

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  • [–] -4 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Yes, that's the irony. Thanks.

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    What?

    That they don’t take orders from someone in authority but they think it’s okay to tell your equals what to do?

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  • [+] -9 points 10 months ago (7 children)
  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago* (3 children)

    You know I stopped reading your replies, right? You need some help, and venting on a public forum isn't it.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Pretty sure there were quite a few exceptions to our unwavering solidarity and mutual aid, as McKinley, a bunch of factory owners, Spanish putchists, Ukraininan whites and reds, Chinese monarchy loyalists might have noticed before their deaths. Or how exactly do you expect to "stomp out" "any behavior that treats another human as less valuable"? Also lovely that you'd do it "in order to adhere to anarchist principle", follow us or die, am I right comrade?

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  • [+] 1 point 10 months ago (1 child)
  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    Yeah, do we go with killing fields for all uneducated products of conservative patriarchal cultures? Like, do we have to exterminate some ~5 billion people right away, or is education an option? Also, you ready to do the killing? What you waitng for?
    Or is empty radicalism with no actual education on the basics of the ideology you claim to follow enough for you? Please do read some (even basics on the militant side like Bakunin, Machno, Malatesta et all) and come back with any actual understanding of what we're up against before trying to lecture others, and def. before sentencing them to death.

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  • [+] -41 points 10 months ago* (17 children)
  • [–] 24 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    The punchline is that they are sleeping together despite every other indication being that they hate each other. It would be equally funny if he was rumored to sleep with hillary clinton, and in fact those jokes were really common in the 2016 election. here are some examples

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  • [+] -7 points 10 months ago (12 children)

    Why? Becasue dbzer0 is a bottom-shelf instance with "anything goes" attitude. They're aggressively pro-AI and lax on moderation. They're also a shelter for tankies masquerading as lefties.

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  • [–] -1 points 10 months ago*

    Meanwhile they also protect shitheel trolls like Universal Monk by banning anyone that calls out his multiple sock puppet accounts.

    Apparently it’s “bad jacketing” to direct people to factual information, and ask others to prove shit that never happened.

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  • [+] -22 points 10 months ago (10 children)
  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago* (6 children)

    Sorry, I don't care what you'd take.
    You asked a question, I answered.

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  • [+] -18 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (5 children)
  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

    yeah, I figured a shitstain like you wouldn't care.

    I don't think you did...

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Wtf, did they call you a shitstain and then edit their comment to soften it without noting that?? That's so slimy...

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  • [+] -14 points 10 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child)

    oh fuck off.

    I just think that's slimy dude 🤷‍♂️ you should own your words.

    but, I'll gladly fuck off and leave you to all the fun you're having. Happy Monday! ✌️

    Edit: oh, looks like they did go back and edit it to actually make it more aggressive than it originally was. Again, didn't note it. This kind of thing totally removes the context of conversations, it's weird behaviour.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago* (2 children)

    Love that ratio bud! By the way, you REALLY need new material. You’ve been crying about that shit for ages now.

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