Actually, it's 5 4 10 12 2 9 8 11 6 7 3 1 for me, but too lazy to edit the image

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[–] 1 point 1 year ago

5 4 10 2 12 9 6 7 8 11 3 1

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Sure but the clock doesn't tell time any differently—now it's just displaying wrong, instead.

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  • [–] 84 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

    Which language provides the most random alphabetically sorted sequence?

    Data
    |  N | Eng | Dut | Ger | Tur | Chi | Lex |
    |----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----|
    |  1 |   8 |   8 |   8 |   6 |   8 |   1 |
    |  2 |  11 |   3 |   3 |   5 |   2 |  10 |
    |  3 |   5 |   1 |   1 |   1 |   9 |  11 |
    |  4 |   4 |  11 |  11 |   9 |   6 |  12 |
    |  5 |   9 |   9 |   5 |   4 |   3 |   2 |
    |  6 |   1 |  10 |   9 |   2 |   4 |   3 |
    |  7 |   7 |  12 |   6 |  10 |   7 |   4 |
    |  8 |   6 |   2 |   7 |  11 |  10 |   5 |
    |  9 |  10 |   4 |   4 |  12 |  12 |   6 |
    | 10 |   3 |   5 |  10 |   8 |  11 |   7 |
    | 11 |  12 |   6 |   2 |   3 |   5 |   8 |
    | 12 |   2 |   7 |  12 |   7 |   1 |   9 |
    

    Sourced from comments in thread (English from image, Dutch from !Vinny_93@lemmy.world, German from !TJA@sh.itjust.works , Turkish from some rando, Chinese from !idealotus@lemmy.world, Lexicographical from !monogram@feddit.nl)

    Plot with Correlation Scores

    We will compute the pearson correlation (r-statistic) score by comparing the base number (column 1) with the corresponding language column. We will also compute the Serial correlation, by creating staggered columns that measure how close a number is in a sequence to the one before it.

    Staggered Table

    cat alphabetic.tab \
        | awk '{print $0"\t"prE"\t"prD"\t"prG"\t"prT"\t"prC"\t"prL;prE=$2;prD=$3;prG=$4;prT=$5;prC=$6;prL=$7}' \
        | tee alphabetic.tab.stagger
    

    Plot Code

    gnuplot -p -e '
      set xlabel "Base Sequence";
      set ylabel "Alphabetic";
      set xtics 1,1,12;
      set ytics 1,1,12;
      set title "Alphabetic Number Plot with Correlation Score";
      set rmargin 25; set key at graph 1.5,0.9;
      set size ratio 0.45;
    
      stats "alphabetic.tab.stagger" using 1:2 name "E";
      stats "" using 1:3 name "D";
      stats "" using 1:4 name "G";
      stats "" using 1:5 name "T";
      stats "" using 1:6 name "C";
      stats "" using 1:7 name "L";
      
      stats "" using 2:8 name "ES";
      stats "" using 3:9 name "DS";
      stats "" using 4:10 name "GS";
      stats "" using 5:11 name "TS";
      stats "" using 6:12 name "CS";
      stats "" using 7:13 name "LS";
    
      set label 1 sprintf("%10s  %6s  %6s", "", "Base", "Stagger") at graph 1.07,0.95;
    
      plot "" using 1:2 with lines lw 3 title sprintf("%10s  %+.3f  %+.3f", "English", E_correlation, ES_correlation),
           "" using 1:3 with lines lw 3 title sprintf("%10s  %+.3f  %+.3f", "Dutch", D_correlation, DS_correlation),
           "" using 1:4 with lines lw 3 title sprintf("%10s  %+.3f  %+.3f", "German", G_correlation, GS_correlation),
           "" using 1:5 with lines lw 3 title sprintf("%10s  %+.3f  %+.3f", "Turkish", T_correlation, TS_correlation),
           "" using 1:6 with lines lw 3 title sprintf("%10s  %+.3f  %+.3f", "Chinese", C_correlation, CS_correlation),
           "" using 1:7 with lines lw 1 title sprintf("%10s  %+.3f  %+.3f", "Lexicon", L_correlation, LS_correlation)
    '
    

    It looks like Dutch has the lowest (near 0) correlation to both the base sequence and it's own staggered sequence, with Turkish mirroring it's staggered randomness somewhat.

    The least random alphabetic sequences are English and German.


    Updated: Added chinese and staggered analysis.

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  • [–] 40 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    Acht, drie, een, elf, negen, tien, twaalf, twee, vier, vijf, zes, zeven.

    8, 3, 1, 11, 9, 10, 12, 2, 4, 5, 6, 7

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    I don't even know 100% that this is Dutch, but Dutch so often reads and sounds like someone German who doesn't know English trying to speak English and I love the language because of it ❤️

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Acht, drei, eins, elf, fünf, neun, sechs, sieben, vier, zehn, zwei, zwölf

    8, 3, 1, 11, 5, 9, 6, 7, 4, 10, 2, 12

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    altı beş bir dokuz dört iki on onbir oniki sekiz üç yedi

    6 5 1 9 4 2 10 11 12 8 3 7

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  • [+] 28 points 1 year ago (4 children)
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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Okay, here's the challenge: Make it always tell the correct time 8:30 should point to the 8 with the little hand and the 6 with the big hand. And 8:35 shoudl point to the 7 with the big hand.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Was thinking the same thing. This has to be possible, within reason of course

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I could get it done with a couple stepper motors, an Arduino, probably a couple hall effect sensors.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    In that case, I am officially challenging you. But if you do end up doing it. My instance is shutting down on Monday, so you won't be able to tag me :(

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    Make an account elsewhere and comment on this post.

    Challenge accepted.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Interestingly it would be right twice a day

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    It's 9 o'clock somewhere!

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    Thanks, i hate it :)

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Portuguese

    cinco, dez, dois, doze, nove, oito, onze, quatro, seis, sete, três, um

    5 10 2 12 9 8 11 4 6 7 3 1

    cinco, dez, dois, doze, meia, nove, oito, onze, quatro, sete, três, um

    5 10 2 12 6 9 8 11 4 7 3 1

    (six can be "seis" or "meia")

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    What time is it?
    It's Beer O'clock!

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    If a mechanical clock or watch was like that it would be one hell of a fascinating movement

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    The numbers are sorted by their English spellings.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    I was equally confused initially, but then I looked at the clock in my house and realized that the number up top is the highest number, 12, and not 0. So the first number in the ordering is at the position of the 1 of a normal clock.

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  • [–] -5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    You're missing the lack of logic, aka you're not missing shit, OP has some soul searching to do.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    What lack of logic? The numbers on the clock are sorted based on the alphabetical order when they're spelled out in English. Just like with a real clock, the top number is the highest, not the lowest. That seems quite logical to me

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago*

    Cinq Deux Dix Douze Huit Neuf Onze Quatre Sept Six Trois Un

    5 2 10 12 8 9 11 4 7 6 3 1

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago*

    Ah yes its nearly 8:03 o’clock

    Or nearly 56 minutes to 11:08

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