Trump can't focus long enough, even on his $400 million passion project

In October, Donald Trump traumatized all true patriots by tearing down the East Wing of the White House. The move, he claims, will clear the way for a ballroom for holding large events that are typically held in tents on the South Lawn. A debate immediately arose online over whether or not the next Democratic president should tear down the ballroom or keep it, albeit with the necessary extensive renovations to remove all the tackiness Trump brings to any project.

Two months later, it increasingly seems that such discussion was a wasted effort, as the chance this ballroom will actually be built is rapidly disappearing. Perhaps it could have if Trump had delegated the management of the project to someone competent, but that’s not what he did. Instead, the famously lazy and disorganized president decided to blow off his actual governance duties in favor of micromanaging a construction project he is incapable of handling. Finishing the ballroom in the next three years would be difficult for anyone, but it’s quickly becoming clear it will be nearly impossible for the famed real estate tycoon to pull it off.

The whole thing is a too-perfect symbol of Trump’s second administration: They are very good at breaking things, but they don’t know how to create anything of value.

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[–] 125 points 10 months ago (3 children)

The fact that Trump just randomly tore down part of the White House still makes me laugh.

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  • [–] 226 points 10 months ago (45 children)

    I bet they can't get any contractor to work on that, because the Administration has already stiffed the demolition crew and nobody wants to touch a job they will never get paid for.

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  • [–] 186 points 10 months ago (19 children)

    You need to remember just how stupid some of his base is. There are pickme's out there who will 100% jump at the chance and think surely Trump won't stiff them.

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  • [–] 117 points 10 months ago (11 children)

    I'm actually amazed how he keeps finding new suckers after decades of doing it in the private sector and almost 10 years of doing it as President. The only ones that really came out ahead are the criminals that bought their pardons. Everyone else gets screwed one way or another.

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  • [–] 23 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Same here. Even back in 2010 and 2011 when I first started to look him up I was surprised that anyone could have trusted him or taken him seriously once the 90s rolled around. He should have been remembered as that conman from the 80s who is barely hanging onto life financially today.

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago

    A lot of the work is shoddy. The businesses doing the work have some kind of quid pro quo. Financing is involved, so the real bag holders will be lenders pitched a job they can never collect on.

    There's a lot of different ways to pass the bill around in the modern economy, such that landing a $300M job on-paper can be leveraged to cheat and swindle people down the line.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    10 years doing it as President?

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  • [–] 13 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    On a personal level sure, but this isn't a job for a random one man operation.

    At the top level you need a business and as much as business leaders love Trump (who doesn't love a useful idiot) they would never risk their bottom line for it.

    All that and the fact that you would likely need a whole bunch of credentials to be building parts of the white house, or at least you likely used to.

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  • [–] 13 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Actually on second thought I'm an idiot.

    If he actually builds that stupid ballroom he would have to pay for it. Much easier to just take the donations and leave a hole in the ground.

    How could I not see such an obvious grift.

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  • [–] 41 points 10 months ago (14 children)

    I bet they can't get any contractor to work on that, because the Administration has already stiffed the demolition crew

    I wanted this to be true... https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-east-wing-demolition-congress/?collection=471833 Unfortunately it's not

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  • [–] 26 points 10 months ago (12 children)

    Wow, when did snopes become an absolutely adfucked shithole. Besides, as far as I can tell that article is focused on Congress stopping the payments being false, not whether or not they've actually been paid, which wasn't clear to me.

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  • [–] 21 points 10 months ago (11 children)

    I wonder what a demolition crew does if you don't pay them. Other tradies will typically just rip out their work, but it's not like a demo crew can easily rebuild something they tore down.

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    Thats silly. Its a lot of extra work, and a crime.

    They would file a lien on the property.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    ...so they can get paid when the property is sold? Just when do you think that's going to happen?

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    So the property that hasn't been sold in 200 years. That's the one you want to put a lien on? Would you like a shit sandwich to go with it so you at least get something?

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  • [–] 33 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    That asshole hasnt paid any bills in decades, i cant believe anyone is still dumb enough to accept a job for this conman.

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago

    Well you see there are still plenty construction contractors that happen to be republican.

    And the very fact they are republicans means they never think anything is real or possible until they personally experience it first hand.

    There is a bottomless barrel of idiots for trump to screw over because he hasn't personally fucked them all...yet

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  • [–] 20 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Also, you try finding a construction crew on the east coast he hasn't personally stiffed already

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    For real? They didn’t pay the demo crew? Or os this speculation?

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    I bet the "I bet" at the start of the statement was meant to indicate that it's not for real, just an example of one of the myriad things Trump has done over the years that might lead a contractor to be wary of taking on a job for him and which would be good rationale to avoid being next in line to be burned.

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  • [–] 53 points 10 months ago

    Trump has a track record of not paying people. Even court records to prove it. Blows my mind the demo team agreed to do this and now they’re not getting paid. No money, no worky

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  • [–] 43 points 10 months ago

    Man who failed at casinos unable to build ballroom. Who could have forseen this!?!?!

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  • [–] 36 points 10 months ago (7 children)

    Trump can’t focus long enough, even on his $400 million passion project

    Didn't it start out under $100 million?

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  • [–] 55 points 10 months ago (6 children)

    It started at $200M and as “not affecting the existing structure” and will end as a $900M donation to the Trump presidential library, which will also not be built.

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  • [–] 13 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    Plot twist: the Trump Presidential library is built in place of the East Wing

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  • [–] 18 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Plot twist 2: The library will only be a small shelf because Trump is effectively illiterate and he will pocket the rest of the money.

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  • [–] 15 points 10 months ago* (1 child)

    In a just world the library would be filled with the Epstein files and all of his executive orders with explanations about how they were illegal attempts to legislate from the oval office.

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  • [–] 65 points 10 months ago (28 children)
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    This reads as way too competent a plan and scheme for Trump's admin.

    I can't decide which is scarier, that Trump's admin is so incompetent they can't build a ballroom, or competent enough to plan and build a project like this while hiding it from the public

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  • [–] 19 points 10 months ago

    Too competent for Trump, absolutely. But there are some pretty scary competent people behind him, whispering in his ear. As the video details, the people he's hired to work on his "ballroom", also happen to be some of the world's leading experts on building super secure, military grade data centers. There's not a lot of overlap between those things, so it's hard to imagine that it's just a random coincidence.

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  • [–] 18 points 10 months ago (8 children)

    LOL.

    If you wanted a secret underground-anything why would you put it under the freakin whitehouse?

    ... and of all things a data centre, which would work the same if it were under sydney harbour, or you know... not underground at all, or well... just any of hundreds of existing data centres.

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  • [–] 18 points 10 months ago (6 children)

    The article does give a reason, it says it's to allow "executive oversight." As if Trump is going to waddle on down there and work on the servers himself.

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  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    That's super thin. Plenty of things have executive oversight and are not physically under the white house.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (4 children)

    That's opposite of the logic suggested. The logic is that anything at the pres. place must be theirs. "Is there anything at / under the white house that is -not- under executive oversight?" is the relevant question.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    I dont really follow.

    I mean i bet Trump loves that Saudi plane, but that's not at the white house?

    There's much better places to keep important things.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago* (2 children)

    I think it makes the case much stronger if it's literally at his house. What if some gov. bureau decides they should have oversight on this data center?

    There are lots of things not at the president's house that he still has oversight over, but but it's only some things. However, he does have oversight over everything at his house (I presume, as a knowonothing). It would break tradition to have some other gov. agency to oversee something at the president's house.

    That's the implication I draw when asking "why is this datacenter at the WH?". Not that I think it is a good or correct argument. Just one they would use.

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago

    Exactly, why the hell would they put it underneath the whitehouse itself? There's already a bunch of existing underground infrastructure there that they would need to work around and all to put their super secret datacenter under the single most likely to be bombed building if the country were ever attacked. Even if they wanted a new datacenter it would make way more sense to build it offsite and just tunnel a few deep redundant data lines to the whitehouse.

    As far as the whole secure underground datacenter thing, we already have them. Nobody I know has ever been inside it but Google runs a secure underground datacenter somewhat near where I live. It's basically a bunker full of servers burried deep into bedrock exactly like that "article" talks about. Most people don't even know it's there. I only know it exists because I know one of the guys that worked on some of the specialized HVAC equipment for it. Of course thats the only one I personally know about but I highly doubt it's the only one in the country.

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  • [+] 12 points 10 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    The 14th amendment being nullified by SCOTUS won't provoke much more than some peaceful protests that, at least around here, get minimized by the media. People like my neighbor, a Mexican-American (who fought in Iraq), will be using their dual citizenship to leave, but that's about it.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Good luck getting hardware in this market

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  • [–] 0 points 10 months ago (6 children)

    Not sure why she shoehorned crypto in there.

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    Because data centers also make great crypto mines. And guess who's currently trying to build their very own crypto empire?

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  • [–] 0 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    Nah. Crypto mining needs specific asic hardware. AI needs completely different chips.

    None of Trumps meme coin grifts require Proof of Work.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    ASIC tech is used in both AI and crypto mining. The reason they work well together is because of the power and cooling infrastructure required for both. Most data centers are designed and equipped to handle either / or.

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  • [–] 0 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    No no. The specific ASIC chips used for bitcoin mining are useless for anything else.

    Also Mining rigs use less energy, don't run hot so require less water than AI GPU servers.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (1 child)

    I think you're missing the point. Data centers can run whatever chips you want. It's not about the specific chip...it's about the power and cooling systems needed to run them. You can set up a data center to run anything, in any combination.

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  • [–] -1 points 10 months ago*

    You miss the point. Trump is not covering up a $300m operation with a shoddy ballroom story to run some bitcoin mining hardware. He can host those machines anywhere.

    The writing of tether and paxos (not bitcoin) are ruining a decent article.

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  • [–] 84 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    They are very good at breaking things, but they don’t know how to create anything of value.

    Typical fascists. It's all grandiose and talk. If one reads the history of Nazi and fascist policies, they tend to wing it. Fascism is a reaction and antithesis to rationalism. In that sense, why would they have a plan at all? Okay, maybe with Heritage Foundation, they have a plan, but overall it is about regression which ultimately doesn't make sense apart from being an emotional reaction to caring about lgbt, migrants and social welfare.

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  • [–] 26 points 10 months ago

    Not unexpected. He handed all kinds of government jobs to the terminally incompetent.

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  • [–] 18 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    I think there's a pretty good argument laid out in this video that the ballroom is a literal cover for a bunkered database

    https://youtu.be/VbJ4ilDvGyc

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  • [–] 17 points 10 months ago

    "There is no real direction here, neither lines of power nor cooperation. Decisions are never really made – at best they manage to emerge, from a chaos of peeves, whims, hallucinations and all around assholery."

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