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George Hendricks, a 69-year-old from Leesburg, a suburb of Orlando, told ClickOrlando he lost $45,000 after a scammer targeted him with a deepfake video of Musk. Deepfakes are digitally-altered videos often used to impersonate notable public figures.

Now, Hendricks tells the outlet that his wife “wants to get a divorce” over the scam.

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[+] 68 points 10 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)
  • [–] 19 points 10 months ago

    I didn't actually witness, this but one of these scam call centres called my bosses bosses well he was attending a cybersecurity conference. Unfortunately there's no actual video of the event but apparently everyone involved had a good time stringing the idiot along for about 45 minutes.

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago

    I cannot help reading that to myself with a thick Indian accent.

    See, it came to me in the voice of The Music Man.

    "Yessir! Genuine, on-time, serves you wine when you dine. This here's gonna be a package you'll be thrilled to receive. Just 48 hours and its all yours, sign on the dotted line, no that's just fine. Here, here, and here, good sir. You've got excellent penmenship and a smile to match."

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  • [–] 34 points 10 months ago (6 children)

    Does the wife want to divorce him because of the money he lost or the fact that he chose a "Musk" product?

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  • [–] 27 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Maybe it's because he's an idiot.

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  • [–] 16 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Yeah guaranteed this isn't the first incredibly stupid thing he's done - probably while ignoring the advise of everyone else - but it may be the latest or most expensive.

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  • [–] 27 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Because Elmo is famous for his donations and philanthropy...

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  • [–] 24 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Based on the title, I figured the scam was just that he was basically trying to purchase a vehicle from an illegitimate website and simply didn't receive anything. And if that were the case, I could kind of forgive the victim. But reading the article... the scammers told the victim they won a car, then asked for them to pay for shipping, down payments, and other arbitrary investments. No, I cannot forgive someone who thought Musk was asking strangers for donations.

    In the video, obtained by ClickOrlando, an AI-generated, deepfake version of Musk said: “My good friend Mr. George, I just want you to listen to what I’m telling you. I promise that you’re going to receive your package.”

    Hendricks was told he had to pay $7,500 in cash for the car’s shipping, which he sent to the scammers. He was also asked to make a $10,000 investment and was promised a $120,000 return, the outlet reports.

    After exchanging several messages with the scammers, he says he drained his accounts and sent them nearly $37,000 more.

    At one point, Hendricks even told the scammers he was concerned about their requests, the outlet reports. But then, they sent Hendricks another video message, which said: “I’d never take advantage of you or your funds. Trust me with your whole heart. God knows I have no bad intentions.”

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  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago

    It's kind of worrying that that's all it took to get him to drain his bank account. The Elon Musk deep fake was probably unnecessary, he seems like the type to fall for the very obvious Nigerian Prince scam of old.

    The old saying goes, it's impossible to fool and honest man, and I don't know if that's necessarily true or not, but it's definitely easier to con someone who genuinely thinks it's posable to get something for nothing. People like that tend to not take responsibility for their own lives and think that the world owes them something. People like that are a con man's best friend.

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  • [+] 39 points 10 months ago (1 child)
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    Honey, listen. If you'd just watch the ad, he said his brain was in the Cloud. He's omnipresent now. He can talk to any of us.

    Look! Look! I still have the link. Damn, why won't this link work? If you could just see the link, honey. He was talking to me. He said, I'd won and that I was incredibly smart. He said we've been chosen! We don't have to live in this shitty apartment anymore. He's going to take us away with him to Mars!

    HONEY! Come back! I love you and I want to live in the computer on Mars together!

    ...

    Fuck. Well, fine. I guess I'll just go find an AI girlfriend.

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  • [–] 17 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    He could've bought an actual EV for that

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  • [–] 15 points 10 months ago

    I like to think she's not leaving him because he lost the money. I like to think she's leaving him because he's dumb enough to be the type of person to lose the money.

    Like, $45,000? Yeah, it's a huge hit to your bank account. But money comes and goes. At the end of the day, you're still with the guy who never stopped to think.

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  • [–] 12 points 10 months ago

    I've been on a Kitboga binge and the only thing that makes scam AIs better than flesh and blood scammers is that they won't talk over you.

    However, I don't think I could get an AI to scream "DO NOT REDEEM!"

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  • [–] 10 points 10 months ago

    And I thought my wife was gullible for nearly falling for a cadburys hamper giveaway scam. But this several orders of gullible worse.

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  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    And she s right, i d also unbirth the kids if possiblr

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  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago

    Who here actually blames her lol

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  • [–] 79 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (33 children)

    She's right: she lives with a dumbass.

    I've never understood this "old people are vulnerable" thing (not to mention that 69 ain't that old): even if the scam is really good, at some point the mark is asked to make a large amount of money flow out of their bank account: anybody with the good sense the good lord gave to donkeys would have alarm bells ringing loudly between their ears. Everybody I've met in my life reacts like that.

    I might understand if the scanner impersonates a close family member really well - although if one of my children started asking me large sums of money, I would get suspicious because... well, they just don't. But Elon Musk? That guy ain't a victim, he's a moron.

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  • [–] 25 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Avoiding scams is as easy as walking a single step. Yet almost everyone has tripped at least once in their life

    We're exposed to scams all the time, all it takes is falling for one of them. Have a little empathy, because it absolutely could be you one day

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago

    It happens to soook many people. Thousands-10s of thousands of people a day. And not all of them are complete idiots, they are just stressed out/worried about some shit in a rush and make a mistake. You get a convincing enough email/text/call whatever and they call the number listed because they are worried someone got into their account.

    Shit, I think I saw an article a couple days ago saying roughly $16 billion dollars were scammed from people in the U.S. like that in 2024 alone.

    Very often the person who got scammed realizes right away but soon as that person that remoted in presses whatever button it's done. If they aren't paying attention, that $5,000 in Apple gift cards was bought with your face ID to verify it, the activation code was grabbed from the email they delete the email and end the call. They immediately redeem the activation code on a random Apple ID they have, and it's a race to use those funds up before the person scammed realizes, gets a hold of Apple, and apple flags the purchase and freezes the account it was activated on.

    Even if all the funds are still on the Apple account and frozen... The person who got scammed won't get that money back I don't believe. Apple profits from that purchase, why would they want to lose that sale. People buy Uber and other such gift cards as well. And not much is done to stop all these people getting scammed

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  • [–] 103 points 10 months ago (22 children)

    You might be surprised about this, but as people age, so do their brains. They do not function as well and sometimes develop serious issues. Stop assuming everyone has the same resources to work with. Protect the vulnerable from bad actors.

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  • [–] 23 points 10 months ago (12 children)

    As of the time of this reply, 3 people have downvoted you. I cannot fathom reading your message and thinking "Well this guy is clearly wrong! Everybody should be judged equally!"

    How they came to the conclusion to downvote you, I'll never know.

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  • [–] 19 points 10 months ago (8 children)

    It's quick, it's easy and it's free, just like pouring river water into your socks!

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  • [–] 10 points 10 months ago (7 children)

    Why would I pour river water into my socks?

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  • [–] 21 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    Because it's quick, it's easy, and it's free!

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    It's not that quick, the nearest river is about a 25 minute walk from me, I wouldn't call that convenient. Also it's raining , so I can't go now or I'll get wet.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago*

    I haven't down voted them but I was strongly inclined to do so.

    It's an argumentative comment that adds nothing to the conversation. Of course we should protect vulnerable people, but we actually already do do that. At some point someone has to take responsibility for their own susceptibility to manipulation, such as recognise you can no longer make sound financial decisions and give power of attorney to someone else. Otherwise it is their fault they're getting manipulated.

    Just because of victim is over the age of 40 doesn't mean that they're mentally infeebled. This attitude ignores the underlying issue which is that quite a lot of people are just quite stupid.

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  • [–] 11 points 10 months ago

    We do protect the vulnerable from bad actors, when anybody tries to make large transfers of money the banks are required to check the validity of the transaction but ultimately if the individual insists what's the bank supposed to do. It's their money.

    There is only so much that it is possible to do, and beyond a certain point you have to accept that scams are either going to happen or just take people's ability to control of their own money away from them, neither are particularly good options.

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  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago

    You make a great point - not all of us have the same capacities and there need to be protections in place to prevent people falling for scams - but I just don’t know where the line is between personal responsibility and collective responsibility. Like, for society to function, we all need to assume some amount of collective responsibility to protect others but that can’t be at 100%. People need to take some amount of personal responsibility for their actions, otherwise we slide towards a society with no learning and no repercussions which is a recipe for disaster and collapse.

    It’s a tenuous relationship, and extremely context-dependent, so I don’t think that there is an objective and quantitative answer to the question. Would make an interesting philosophical/ethical debate though.

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago (6 children)

    And yet we let them vote and run the country.

    We can't even agree to revalidate their driving ability because that would be disrespectful.

    They don't get to have it both ways.

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    Stupid young people are allowed to vote too. And for good reason. Tying ability to vote to a check of capability is easily, and historically broadly, abused

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (4 children)

    Stupid people of all ages are allowed to vote. We're specifically talking about diminished mental capacity.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago

    That's exactly what he's saying. How do you test for "diminished capacity" we've had arbitrary tests like that in the USA before. It didn't go well for certain "types" of people. It's a very slippery slope. That's why it's a right for for all citizens, even if they are dumber than a potato. Creating an arbitrary age limitation introduces a new landmine no politician in their right mind wants to step on.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (2 children)

    And is stupidity not within that category?

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago

    Old people spent almost all their lives living in a different world, where you could trust and believe in certain things. That world has dissolved just as their brains got too old to adapt to the change. It's hard for everyone to keep up, but for some people it's impossible. My father in law is like that, his smartphone is always full of crap because if he sees a popup advert telling him he needs to install something, he'll do as he's told. He can't tell the difference between an advert and a system message. He grew up in a world where most of the time you could basically trust what people were telling you, especially if it looked official. Modern technology and media has no consideration for such vulnerable people, except for finding ways to exploit them.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    Once you get into non-standard investments (so not stocks/etfs/CDs/etc.) things get a lot murkier a lot quicker. At some point you are just trusting some person with a lot of money. I mean look at Bernie Maddoff, he was just some guy promising a return on investments.

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  • [+] -15 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    It's simple: Boomers grew up in a world where money was handed out for free just for being white. The ideas of hard work, financial responsibility, or the value of a dollar were lost on the whole generation. They don't think twice about sending $25,000 to some random person because that's how they got that money in the first place (50 years ago, which they used to buy their first house (now their fourth rental property)).

    Hope this helps

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    that $45,000 can be used for something useful, like yk covering the tuition fee of a university for a year or to make me travel places.

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  • [–] 16 points 10 months ago

    I’m (not) sorry but if you are capable of falling for this scam you are living in an actual fucking dream world and are a danger to the community

    In a just world those scammers wouldn’t exist but this guy also wouldn’t recklessly revel in obvious delusions of grandeur

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    But now she can't afford it!

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  • [–] 26 points 10 months ago* (31 children)

    He’s an idiot…but his wife is also likely a gold digger?

    …but at the same time he’s old and shouldn’t be expected to be tech savvy. I’m always worried about the viral nonsense my elderly mom falls for. If mom didn’t have a son like me drilling it into her head that everything is fake…theydve got her money by now.

    What don’t understand is why isn’t social media fucking complicit for allowable these ads? Back in the 80s you couldn’t tell a white lie in a TV commercial or else you’d get fined…but YouTube and Facebook aren’t even required to have actual people checking the ads people post on their site?

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  • [–] 36 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    I don't see where his wife is a gold digger. According to the article, he's fallen for repeated scams and, the way they work is that once you've fallen for one scam, they sell your information to other scammers as an easy mark. As her spouse, he probably has access to all her money; if they get divorced, she'll at least be able to protect her half of their assets.

    [Notice that it doesn't say his wife wants to leave him, just get divorced.]

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  • [–] 12 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    I feel like it's not just being tech-savvy though. He seems to lack basic common sense.

    Why would you assume that a free car giveaway would necessitate you paying transfer fees, why wouldn't that have already been pre-arranged. After all it's a Tesla car presumably Tesla the ones who are going to deliver it. Additionally why would the competition be exclusive to a niche Facebook group and not a national campaign. It all just seems very obviously a scam.

    My parents aren't particularly tech savvy and often send me AI garbage but they wouldn't be easy marks because both of them have critical thinking skills, or at least my mother does. But my dad has learnt to do what he's told.

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  • [+] -9 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    I said he was an idiot AND she’s a gold digger.

    She married this dumbass, ffs…she’s probably not cool.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    What aspect of any of this makes you think she's a gold digger the article never says virtually anything about her except she wants to divorce.

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  • [–] 16 points 10 months ago* (6 children)

    his wife is also likely a gold digger?

    Would you stay married to that dumbass? That stupidity is unforgivable.

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  • [+] -12 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    She married that dumbass in the first place…maybe because he had money shrug.

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  • [–] 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

    You don't know anything about how they earned their money or manage it other than he wasted a considerable amount of their wealth near or probably past retirement.

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  • [–] 0 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    After exchanging several messages with the scammers, he says he drained his accounts and sent them nearly $37,000 more

    Gold diggers don't go for 69-year-olds with 45k to their name

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago*

    I’m not super committed to this…but we know nothing about her and the only thing we know about her is she didn’t love him and left when the money was gone. I like fiction, so I can fill in the rest:

    She obviously “dug her gold” long before he was 69. She was a meth head…10s of thousands was like millions to her. It’s Florida, after all. She married a moron in the first place, she’d been stealing his money for years. Him being stupid wasn’t surprising...it was just a pretext for her to bail and take half of what was left because, with no cash, there was no point in staying.

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  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago (6 children)

    I dunno. My mom is his age and taught us how to build crystal radios when we were kids for fun. She still does it every few years with the grandkids as they grow up. She's still sharp as a whisk.

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    She's still sharp as a whisk.

    Whisks are not sharp. Do you mean whip? Or am I missing the joke?

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    True but it's an idiom, so I'd be more confident of the meaning. I thought they might be making a pun.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago* (4 children)

    Pfft, I would divorce my husband if he fell for a Musk grift, and it has nothing to do with gold digging. It would, however, mean that my husband kept hidden for a long time (which is impressive, I gotta say) just how big of a fucking moron he is and I won't be married to that. And he should be avoiding anything to do with Musk like the plague anyway.

    Also, it would mean that he made the decision to throw away a bunch of money without even talking to me about it (because I would veto the hell out of it), which means he's an asshole.

    Both good reasons to divorce someone imo.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    But would you marry an idiot in the first place?

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Cutting someone loose who makes terrible financial decisions is not gold digger behavior. They are likely retired and have limited resources to worry about and he just blew a big chunk of that. This also doesn't speak well of his intelligence overall so maybe this was a long time coming.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    You don't have to be tech savvy to realise the adage "if it sounds too good to be true...". I would have thought Americans of all people would develop armour against scams. But even a modicum of due diligence like asking relatives, or googling his situation might have protected him.

    I should add that my dad is 80 and housebound and gets scam calls all the time and bats them off like flies so being old is not an excuse.

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