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[–] 81 points 1 year ago (14 children)

Funny how SCOTUS had no problems whatsoever with nationwide injunctions when Biden was president…

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago (13 children)

    Well that's the thing with SCOTUS. You have to ask them to have an opinion on something. They probably wouldn't have had a problem with national injunctions under Biden if that authority had been challenged in court. And then we would have already had that precedent from literally the same judges for to rely on now.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago* (7 children)

    If something is unconstitutional then it's unconstitutional. I don't understand why they're creating more unnecessary work so now party A complains, courts say ok it's not right, but now party B has to go through the same process, etc etc etc... so now we have to have essentially 50 individual cases to go over the same thing when each state encounters this issue unless they can manage to create a class lawsuit out of it.

    To my cynical mind it seems like excessive delay on otherwise straightforward cases was the intended outcome.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    That is the intent, to make it harder for any challenges to Republican fascism. If a case comes up that would benefit them, then they will do it as a exception, becsuse they are hypocrites.

    Basically they have ruled that rights only count in the scope they want, and by default it is limited. Fascist laws and executive orders can be enforced nationwide and only challenged locally.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago*

    Unless I'm getting my right wing "shadowy organizations" mixed up, it was the now well known heritage foundation that created the short list of judges for Republicans to choose from for something like the last 40 years, so these are all their judges, and looking at project 2025 we know what the heritage foundation wants for the country...

    It's not rainbows and ponies that's for sure.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago*

    This goes all the way back to Lincoln who’s primary reasoning for deciding to start a civil war was we couldn’t let states decide if they would or would not be slave states, slavery was wrong this isn’t an option - now “slavery” has a bigger and more nuisanced meaning but I essentially his decision to disallow states to choose on such important subjects, to not be united is being removed

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    They also hope to commit “paper terrorism” like the sovereign citizen movement, which is weirdly similar to the Moldbug/Peter Thiel plans, to choke out the US justice system with paper work and grind it to a halt while maintaining plausible deniability on their end

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    It's exactly what they did by killing chevron deference. Instead of experts in a given field, working in a relevant department, clarifying how a given vague rule should be applied in individual cases, now each case has to go to the courts so a judge can decide whether XYZ regulation should apply in areas they have zero knowledge of.

    A huge win for corporate interests as delay delay delay helps them continue to violate vague rules.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    If something is unconstitutional then it’s unconstitutional.

    Correct. But, perhaps sadly, I'm reminded of the scene in Pirates of the Caribbean when Will is complaining about rules and Jack says the only rules that matter are what a man can do and what a man can't do. The Constitution only matters if we have enough people willing and able to enforce it. And if the Trump administrations have taught us anything, it's that we need every fucking assumption to be litigated.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Several of biden's nationally injuncted cases made it to the supreme Court, specifically the cases about student debt.

    I don't recall the department of Justice questioning the national injunctions legality at that time though, tbf.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    I don’t recall the department of Justice questioning the national injunctions legality at that time though, tbf.

    That's all this ruling is about, whether a circuit court can issue a national injunction. I'm assuming that this specific question hasn't been asked to the SCOTUS before (because it's a stupid question that shouldn't have even been entertained). The EO is still enjoined in the jurisdiction of the circuit courts where a challenge to the EO has produced an injunction. So the EO itself is still going through the courts.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Prescient is irrelevant, Row v Wade

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  • [–] 47 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    It's going to be awhile before folks recognize just how damaging this is, if it plays out as I expect.

    Trump's entire life policy is to ignore norms, contracts, laws, and opposition until he's stopped. It's still dumbfounding he's gotten this far, because he's not some strange unknown entity - he's a typical sociopath, pushing boundaries as far as they'll go in his favor until he's actually prevented from doing so.

    His "litigate to delay" strategy is right in line with this. And now the norm is that his administration doesn't just get to act unlawfully until a court enjoins him from it (if even that, and if even he follows the order). It's now that his administration gets to act unlawfully to any individual who hasn't, on their own, challenged it and won in court. And given how fast he is normalizing fascism, even if a substantial number challenge him, in a year when the cases are "won," it'll be too late, the moment will be lost.

    If there was any doubt as to the health of the rule of law, this is basically the end of the line.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    It isn't quite what you've italicized, but make no mistake that's it's still a terrible precedent to set. Preliminary injunctions can still be granted by district courts, but now they need to be brought in the form of a class action and all the tediousness that entails. ACLU thankfully had one ready to go it seems just in case of this and it's been filed already.

    Nevertheless, this also enables insane infringement of the first amendment. There is nothing stopping him from declaring membership of a particular political party is illegal, including state parties, and then requiring each state to independently challenge under a restricted class action. It's ludicrous.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    It's what the people want. It's what he did all his life, including his first term, and he announced he would do, and he is now doing.

    At least there is peace in the middle east and in Ukraine, and eggs are a dime a dozen...

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  • [–] [S] 39 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    The main takeaways here are:

    The justices, in a 6-3 vote along ideological lines, said that in most cases, judges can only grant relief to the parties who brought a particular lawsuit and may not extend those decisions to protect other individuals without going through the process of converting a suit into a class action.

    The court did not rule on the legality of Trump’s order purporting to end birthright citizenship, although the three liberal justices said the president’s directive was clearly unlawful.

    So, the plaintiffs will need to certify as a class in order for judges to issue nationwide injunctions now. That's a pretty huge shift.

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  • [–] 30 points 1 year ago* (5 children)

    Man, what a great year for anarchism in the USA, first we had a No Kings day, now we have a No Citizens day! /gallows humor

    Fr tho, this is awful. It seems like for now at least everybody needs to get their own lawyers and court dates to prove they're a citizen if the Trump administration wants to go after you. BTW, a lot of law firms have struck deals with the administration limiting the kinds of pro bono work they will do. Also deportations to third party countries are legal for now. Also, they may deport you while you have a case pending and then do nothing to bring you back when a court does order it.

    So, yeah, they've probably created a "no due process needed, exile all the uppity poor brown queers and any other deviant troublemakers we don't like, unless they have someone inside the system that can get them a pass (and even then maybe do it anyway)" machine here. Call it fascism, dictatorship, totalitarianism, social darwinism, cyberpunk dystopia, whatever, I think we're here now.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago* (4 children)

    Call it fascism, dictatorship, totalitarianism, social darwinism, cyberpunk dystopia, whatever, I think we’re here now.

    I think we've been there a long time it's just taken someone as chaotic and despotic as Trump to actually use those reigns of power for this kind of thing. I remember feeling similarly about the kind of shit we let Dubya Bush get away with, and then learning some history and realizing this kind of overreach horseshit went all the way back to Reagan... then all the way back to Nixon.

    The system was already this way, it was just waiting for the right twisted freak to fuck it all up from the inside.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Then all the way back to the o. K corral. J.p Morgan didn't like the unsettling climate that little war was creating for his investors. Dude went and basically bought the presidency. Sound familiar?

    Look it up. Fascinating how far back federal corruption and local greed intersect

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I mean, it's not that fascinating, we're a country that was basically founded by a bunch of wealthy landowners who hated being taxed. They hated contributing to a common good. They were like the Zuckebergs and Musks and Bezoses of their time. The country was literally founded on only land-owning white men being allowed to vote.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    You can always track further back to earlier causes, but I think that we took a real hard turn for the worse in this country when Ford pardoned Nixon and an angry mob didn't rend Richard the Treacherous limb from limb. If the powers that be can just dispense Get Out Of Jail Free cards to their buddies and the people are unwilling or unable to fight back and force there to be consequences, then nobody in a position of power ever really needs to worry about abusing their office.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    “The universal injunction was conspicuously nonexistent for most of our Nation’s history,” Justice Amy Coney Barrett wrote in the majority opinion.

    So was your right to vote. Shall we let the executive branch take that away on a whim as well?

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago

    Supreme Court tears down the constitution and rule of law

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    This is the most important thing, in my opinion, that the fucked up Trump court has ruled on. Saying a president can't be prosecuted for crimes that were performed as part of his job was wild but unlikely to actually occur. This is both wild and already occurring on a daily basis. This is so unbelievably asinine.

    To sum up: if a judge rules a law or action is obviously unconstitutional, the only person it is unconstitutional for is the person who brought the case to that specific judge.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    On the one hand this seems awfully terrible for individual citizens that we now all have to file our own lawsuit. But on the other hand it also seems crippling to the federal government having to defend all of those lawsuits.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    Say Trump announces that you're not a citizen, that gay marriage doesn't exist, that all women must give birth annually, whatever. If you're victimized by it, and have the money or can find a freebie lawyer, maybe you sue the federal government, and maybe you win. But even if you win, you only win for you. The millions of others in exactly your same situation each need to file their own lawsuits, and hope to win. (Unless it's a class action lawsuit, which involves separate and very, very difficult legal hurdles.)

    If I'm understanding this wrong, and cripes I hope I am, please 'splain it to me.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    Well, clearly the court only said that the three judges in question had to stop issuing nationwide injunctions, right? The others haven't done anything yet, and since each case has to be tried independently....

    So fucking stupid. And a clear signal that they're going to start deporting citizens now, since even though I can show my birth certificate, I can't show my parents, or my parents parents and so on. Trace it back far enough and everyone will run into an ancestor that they can't prove the citizenship of. "Oops, your citizenship is actually invalid! We're sending you to a central American prison".

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    Only in the aftermath will we know which moment was the final toppling, but for now, I'd nominate this.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    The best time to plant a tree buy a gun was 20 years ago, the second best time is now

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Yup. Anti-gun my whole life. Still am. But I'm in the process of buying my first firearm.

    Historically, fascism has to be put down with bullets.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    And America's descent into fascism continues unabated.

    Buy guns. Buy ammo.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago*

    My estimate is that this will result on 410 lawsuits filed per day. :o

    I think it's not a smart move to have 150 000 lawsuits per year over the same question - it's much preferable to have 1 lawsuit for a whole class of people - defending the rights of everyone in the same situation - and some extra lawsuits for those who want to present a unique take on the matter.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Are the judges of the highest court in America actually high?

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    [–] 23 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    So, they're limiting judges' ability to...checks notes...uphold the Constitution in court?

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago

    There is no more rule of law. Don't assume the legal system will deliver justice (it was never great at that, but now it's openly, flagrantly rigged).

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  • [+] 34 points 1 year ago (32 children)
  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (29 children)

    This is a stupid ruling, but it's a stupid PROCEDURAL ruling. Stop being a defeatist and start getting involved.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (26 children)

    How does this stop him from using executive orders to do illegal things in the short term?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (25 children)

    Executive orders are not laws. As you've seen, his bullshit orders keep getting shot down in court. You can't just DECLARE new laws and procedures, that's not how it works.

    This ruling doesn't change the existing laws at all, but they're trying to change the procedures to the laws. This ruling doesn't do that, but it makes it harder for courts to reject arguments that align with that bullshit, that's it.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Even if the courts eventually shoot down his bullshit orders eventually, they're not allowed to stop him from enforcing them until the case is over, except against the specific plaintiffs in their court.

    So assuming that his birthright citizenship order is defeated, as soon as the SCOTUS 30-day pause is up, he can start stripping people of citizenship and deporting them right away. If that order is overturned? Then he'll have to deal with whatever the court says he needs to do, but he'll still have destroyed a bunch of people's lives in the process

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    They don't need to stop them, because they are unconstituit. You can't make up some bullshit that is UNCONSTITUTIONAL and win in court. Any half-assed lawyer can just file the paperwork to get this shit shut down, but that's really the cruz here in that they are expecting people to not have the access to legal services to make it happen in the event they are challenged.

    There will be more specific cases about this specific thing immediately being heard by the lower courts, they'll rule against Trump, and this will end up in the Supreme Court again in the next session, no doubt on that.

    This is a stalling tactic by Trump's psychos to try and make it look they are able to bend the Constitution to their service, which will not happen because...it's unconstitutional.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    You can't make up some bullshit that is UNCONSTITUTIONAL and win in court.

    Sadly, this is not exactly accurate. See:

    • civil asset forfeiture (blatantly violated the literal wording and any good faith interpretation of the 4th and 6th Amendments)
    • qualified immunity (was literally invented with no basis in existing law, violates the wording of the law as passed, which was maliciously transcribed to omit a clause explicitly banning immunity, and violates the 7th Amendment right to a jury trial for civil damages exceeding $20)
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  • These are awful things, but again, you yourself mention "good faith interpretation". This is a procedural problem with lawmaking in general that if you don't specifically have an action codified in law that says "you cannot do this", people will find ways to work around it. This is the case with both of the things you've mentioned, unfortunately.

    Now, if the existing laws specifically had mentioned these things are illegal AND were in the constitution, and then somebody tried to enact them, thats a different story.

    Instead these things exist because of bad faith interpretation of laws, and need to to be routed out by very specific wording or rulings.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    This is exactly how Biden managed to forgive millions of people's student loan debts, before Republicans had the chance to stop him in court.

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    It literally is. He acted through executive orders alone, and .managed to wipe out billions in debt, in several waves. Unfortunately though, those orders were eventually blocked by Republicans, who challenged them in court...but not before millions of Americans had their debts erased.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    Think you’re downplaying it a bit. They’ve been getting blocked due to injunctions. 23 so far. Now they’re not possible anymore. States will selectively enforce the constitution.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

    That's not what the ruling said, first of all. The ruling said that the 28 states who DID NOT sue won't be included in the injunctions that are being put in place, meaning these asshats took issue with the lower court issuing a nationwide injunction. Any individuals or groups that sue will still be included in the injunction set to go into effect in 30 days.

    Stupid, fuck yes. Overstepping, yup. It is not a ban on lower courts issuing injunctions full stop as you've just said.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Yeah technically but still makes it a lot harder, more expensive, and longer; especially for the unlucky ones in red states who now have unequal access to justice. Giving them plenty of time to do whatever the f they want. Already bumrushing people at breakneck speed on the streets and shipping them off to random countries what do you reckon they’ll manage in their remaining 3.5+ years.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

    The ruling only applies to the nationwide injunction that was issued on this order. As I said in my other comment, any individuals can sign onto this simply by asking. There will be a massive flood of options to do this showing up in Monday, I guarantee, so I'm not worried about that.

    It wasn't a ruling on nationwide injunctions in general, it wasn't a legal ruling saying that federal judges cannot do this in the future, and it wasn't an exclusion of anybody from signing on to this.

    As far as the next few years...honestly, we just need to make it to midterms. That's what I'm focused on and worried about. The GOP is already eating themselves alive and fracturing in a million pieces just like his first term, and at record speed. Yeah, shit feels kind of bleak, but people need to think more strategically and manage out how we GET to the midterms without shit getting worse or escalating. That's the important bit.

    Edit: here's a very smart and measured legal analyst that spells it out succinctly: https://www.rawstory.com/msnbc-2672488166/

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (6 children)

    Those articles say it does apply to nationwide injunctions in general so Wdym?

    The court decided that nationwide injunctions, or court orders that prevent the government from enforcing a specific law or policy, are unconstitutional.

    You’re assuming the midterms will save you but that assumes he won the election fairly. Which he didn’t based on the suppression tactics he down alone; before you get to the dodgy voting patterns and gerrymandering.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (5 children)

    It's about this specific junction. Not all.

    Supreme Court opinions are only scoped to the argument brought to the court. This one was about many states using over the Birthright Citizenship.

    They did not make any sort of ruling about ALL federal court injunctions. That would cripple their own court and the federal court system with immediate filings.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (4 children)

    It affects all nationwide injunctions not just this one.

    This ruling changes when and how lower courts can issue nationwide injunctions for any future case.

    Courts can still block federal policies - but now they must limit injunctions to the actual plaintiffs or a certified class.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    Again, and as I said before, it does not do that, because that wasn't the case being argued. It affects this one scope.

    https://www.scotusblog.com/2025/06/supreme-court-sides-with-trump-administration-on-nationwide-injunctions-in-birthright-citizenship-case/

    You can go and find the ruling text and the dissent text. The reason why the news outlets are reporting other headlines is because this weakens the ability of lower courts to do nationwide injunctions without a specific scope. There is no specific text in the ruling that "bans" nationwide injunctions by lower courts.

    By the way, the scope of this is important, but they of course had no ruling on the 14th amendment, because they fucking can't. It's the constitution.

    Literally anyone can walk into court and say "Unconstitutional" and have this entire order upended, because the Supreme Court has to take other rulings into account.

    Let me go one step further by saying this was on the Shadow Docket, and these are temporary stays of other rulings. This is not codified as law, or anything of the sort. Whatever damage they've done here can easily be reversed without the court's involvement.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    The Court’s opinion specifically addressed whether multiple states could get broad nationwide relief without showing concrete harm for all non-plaintiffs.

    It sets a binding precedent that narrows when lower courts can issue nationwide injunctions.

    That means it does have general implications for all future injunctions

    Supreme Court opinions - even on the Shadow Docket - do have precedential effect, so lower courts will treat this as binding guidance on how to craft injunctions going forward.

    Jackson’s dissident seems pretty clear?

    JUSTICE JACKSON, dissenting. I agree with every word of JUSTICE SOTOMAYOR’s dissent. I write separately to emphasize a key conceptual point: The Court’s decision to permit the Executive to violate the Constitution with respect to anyone who has not yet sued is an existential threat to the rule of law.

    It is important to recognize that the Executive’s bid to vanquish so-called “universal injunctions” is, at bottom, a request for this Court’s permission to engage in unlawful behavior. When the Government says “do not allow the lower courts to enjoin executive action universally as a remedy for unconstitutional conduct,” what it is actually saying is that the Executive wants to continue doing something that a court has determined violates the Constitution—please allow this. That is some solicitation. With its ruling today, the majority largely grants the Government’s wish. But, in my view, if this country is going to persist as a Nation of laws and not men, the Judiciary has no choice but to deny it.

    Stated simply, what it means to have a system of government that is bounded by law is that everyone is constrained by the law, no exceptions. And for that to actually happen, courts must have the power to order everyone (including the Executive) to follow the law—full stop. To conclude otherwise is to endorse the creation of a zone of lawlessness within which the Executive has the prerogative to take or leave the law as it wishes, and where individuals who would otherwise be entitled to the law’s protection become subject to the Executive’s whims instead.

    The majority cannot deny that our Constitution was designed to split the powers of a monarch between the governing branches to protect the People. Nor is it debatable that the role of the Judiciary in our constitutional scheme is to ensure fidelity to law. But these core values are strangely absent from today’s decision. Focusing on inapt comparisons to impotent English tribunals, the majority ignores the Judiciary’s foundational duty to uphold the Constitution and laws of the United States. The majority’s ruling thus not only diverges from first principles, it is also profoundly dangerous, since it gives the Executive the go-ahead to sometimes wield the kind of unchecked, arbitrary power the Founders crafted our Constitution to eradicate. The very institution our founding charter charges with the duty to ensure universal adherence to the law now requires judges to shrug and turn their backs to intermittent lawlessness. With deep disillusionment, I dissent.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    Don't post dumbass AI takes for duck's sake. This is insane.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    ? I didn’t. I repeated the same thing I’ve been saying for the past 5 comments and the dissenting opinion from Jackson. Even the site you linked me says it applies as I’ve stated so wtf are you talking about? Are you a bad AI?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    It essentially means states have to independently fight and allocate resources. It's not the end of the road. Red state residents may be screwed but it depends on how cowardly their red governors are. Red states can't hide behind national injunctions anymore. The state residents will be forced to harangue their state govt into fighting something in court. It may hurt the republicans in the end as they're forcing red state governors to either: look weak to their own people or insult trump by having state AGs fight unconstitutional laws.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Sir 48% of voters approve of trumps actions so far. Those red state AGs will be championed for selectively applying the constitution as Trump sees fit. I’d expect prayer in schools and banning of protest will be the first to go.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    But now that he has put an order out ending Birthright Citizenship and the SCOTUS ruled that nationwide injunctions aren't applicable, can't there now be a patchwork of enforcement where red regions will not honor birthright citizenship while blue regions do?

    It seems like in the short term, there is going to be a lot of carnage and damage because this unconstitutional executive order will be followed by his loyalists.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    He can put out an order requiring the sky to be green. It's just words, that's the point. The only thing he can affect with an EO are things where his sycophants can enable it to the extent they are involved in the executive branch. NOT the Judicial Branch. The judges who order and enforce the laws can't just ignore the constitution. Birthright Citizenship is in the constitution.

    What the SCOTUS ruling here adds is some dumbshit to make the process more stupid than it needs to be for people without legal status it seems, but it is not a change to the law, or enforcement. That needs to be understood.

    All it's going to take is a specifically angled case to ask the question "Is birthright Citizenship in the constitution? Oh, it is? Well then it's constitutional"

    Another court case that isn't about the procedural nature of obtaining said documentation or status will shut this shit down in a heartbeat, but as others have noted, the legal process of getting it there takes longer than most would like.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    The judges who order and enforce the laws can't just ignore the constitution. Birthright Citizenship is in the constitution.

    Again, I'm really sorry to burst you bubble but do think that understanding the reality of our situation and tearing down the illusions is important.

    1. The Judicial is charged with interpreting the law and arbitrarion. Not enforcement. That's on the Executive branch.
    2. The US Constitution has been increasingly ignored in both the Judicial and Executive branches since about the 60s. For example, the SCOTUS invented "qualified immunity" in 1967 to allow the Executive branch to effectively ignite constitutional rights. Their fuckery means that "it literally says it in the US Constitution" is insufficient to show evidence harm from being deprived of constitutional rights. Effectively, an identical case must have been tried, which makes it nearly impossible (because of the circular dependency).
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    1. You misunderstand this. The Executive is bound to ensure that laws are enforced, but not tasked or powered to do so directly. Congress controls the purse and lawmaking, and the constitution is very clear that President must ENSURE what Congress passes is enforced. That's extremely clear in Article ii Section iii, and is referred to as the "Take Care Clause".

    2. Sure, this is not untrue, but as we've seen over and over again, if ruling against the constitution, you always create a dead end. So they've just passed something stupid that is technically an interpretation in its most idiotically simple way, but they've then created a disaster on the other side of the legal process. It can't work both ways. Unless they gain control over every judge and jurisdiction to exactly as Trump says, they won't have the ability to control jack shit in this sense. Even after today's ruling, the experts are already saying they've just opened the door to completely drown the courts and SCOTUS with challenges and really fuck over Trump because they've closed one door foolishly, and opened another to attack this bullshit from.

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  • [+] 0 points 1 year ago* (1 child)
  • My point is exactly what you're saying though. Being defeatist isn't productive. Doomscrolling and resigning to the idea that "we're all fucked, might as well give up" isn't helpful.

    If the tremendous outpouring of rejection for this administration's bullshit isn't quite cutting it in the inspiration department for you, then just sit by and do nothing. Your input in the manner you are giving isn't helpful, and it's not doing anything to inspire more people to fight against it.

    Easily changed though. I would prefer people go the other direction with it and get more involved. That's all I'm saying.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago*

    SCOTUS: Supreme Corruption Of The United States

    Constitution much?

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    This is really bad.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    Its time to BURN THE WHOOOOOOLE FUCKIN THING TO THE GROUND. That is all.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    The Supreme Court and the rule of law:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcZzlPGnKdU

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    It's bad but it's not over yet. They're using this as a way to give him what he wants with regard to his propagandized concerns about "activist judges" while leaving the door open to siding with the Constitution on birthright citizenship. At least that's how it seems unless someone can set me straight.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I don’t think the birthright citizenship issue would clear a hurdle neatly in this court, but it does seem like they’re arguing in two directions. On the one immediate hand, the majority opinion is how individual cases are being used to blanket stop stuff nationwide (which Biden also disliked); on the other, arguing that stripping birthright citizenship is unconstitutional. The former pertains to the case most directly, while the latter is about what the cases are ultimately concerned with and something down the road, but is not what the Supreme Court case they ruled on was actually about. Will it likely lead to problems with citizenship cases? Oh hell yes. But I’ll agree with you that it’s a form of kicking the can down the road, which they do enjoy.

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