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[–] 141 points 11 months ago (17 children)

Doesn't seem like she is doing this but watching a coding tutorial with a topless girl presenting it would be much more fun. I wonder if there is a market for this

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  • [–] 114 points 11 months ago (4 children)
  • [–] 72 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    True story.

    A while back I needed to learn how to tie a necktie in a double Windsor knot. Looked for some videos.

    Found one with a hot girl in lingerie showing me how.

    I watched it twelve times, then found another video with an old man demonstrating.

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  • [–] 63 points 11 months ago (5 children)

    Decades ago ago there was a series of videos of girls teaching calculus. For example they had a girl lay down on her back and then described how to use integrals to determine the area of her boobs.

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  • [–] 34 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Reminds me of a math rhythm my older brother taught me when we were teens

    You subtract the clothes
    You add the bed
    You divide the legs
    And then you multiply

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  • [–] 12 points 11 months ago (3 children)
  • [–] 103 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    The channel is real:
    pornhub.com/zara-dar

    (And I don't want that other site in my history, so I'm not looking it up.)

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  • [–] 101 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Hey, musicians, Pornhub pays better than Spotify!

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  • [–] 61 points 11 months ago* (5 children)

    WTF I had no idea the CPM had gotten that low. $1 per thousand views for however many ads are in each video is practically nothing.

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  • [–] 30 points 11 months ago

    The more resistant to clicking ads we get the less each ad is worth to the corporate ad buyer and the more ads the services want to jam in to get their profits.

    The part I struggle to understand is why corporate ad buyers are okay with the fraud that the big tech companies seemingly routinely get caught on. Famous example being pivot to video on Facebook where they just cooked the books to sell the concept.

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  • [–] 60 points 11 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] 26 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

    The fourth stage is to run away with the money, leaving stockholders and investors with a failed company in their hands which they can't bring back from the dead because both users and business partners hate it.

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  • [–] 7 points 11 months ago

    stage 5: revolution - overthrow the oppressive corporate system; nationalize all monopolies, split them into different smaller companies, give those companies to the workers who will collectivize them. seriously!

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  • [–] 56 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

    I know there are gamer girls on sites like Fansly and OnlyFans that stream their gaming sessions in the same way they would on Twitch. I wonder what the engagement and income is for them on those sites versus Twitch or YouTube.

    EDIT: I just watched Zara Dar's PornHub video on Loss Functions. Her delivery is a tad robotic but the content is informative.

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  • [–] 107 points 11 months ago (6 children)

    Maybe she'll get flagged for appropriate content.

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  • [–] 35 points 11 months ago (5 children)

    Hope not, that would be a crushing blow! Since I generally boycott YT, I checked out Zara Dar's What is a Neural Network. It's a good overview, and well presented. Ah, a look there's a part 2. It would be great if she could hit 1M views on ProhNub, as a result of this post. Only 207K over the past year, with 2K updoots.

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  • [–] 13 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    Since people are probably not going to PH to search for this, I wonder if she gets views from people with some kind of autoplay.

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  • [–] 46 points 11 months ago* (8 children)

    Hence articles like this bother me:

    https://www.axios.com/2025/12/13/joy-reid-leaving-corporate-media

    YouTube, Instagram and TikTok…

    That’s the trap. These mega platforms feel like “liberating” creative outlets, but they take basically all the ad revenue and hand out scraps; the absolute bare minimum to keep creators around. And that ratio shrinks as the monopoly grows.

    Yet creators, even journalists trained to sniff out profiteering, go in blind to that.


    And yes, I get it. “Just don’t use them,” is much harder said than done.

    …But they could be a little more critical of their platform, like this lady.

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  • [–] 12 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    It's just hype. They parade around people that "made it" with their revenue programs. The 99 or so % that never make any, or even lose, money in the process are never shown.
    A close friend of mine invested a 4-figure amount into travels, gadgets and all sorts of stuff to show off... while being unemployed. Had a huge, organic crowd of followers, too, on several platforms. Tried everything, but never saw a single cent in return.

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  • [–] 7 points 11 months ago*

    Yeah.

    Hence most that "make it" do it through external links, like sponsors, OnlyFans, merch, blog/newsletter subscriptions and such.

    Yet the platforms are trying to squash that. Just the other day, I witnessed the official YouTube Android TV app skip a video's sponsor.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (1 child)

    Where then? What’s free with a shot at getting views/revenue?

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago*

    That's what I'm saying.

    You have to use YouTube, Tiktok, whatever. But at least be a little more self aware and vocal of the platform's pitfalls.

    And to be clear, some content creators already are. But it needs to be the majority. They need to remind every single viewer "this place is a trap, a bloodsucking leech, and we're here because we have no choice." Just subtly enough to avoid deranking, of course.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    They are liberating creative outlets in the sense that they offer a platform and tools for creative expression (barring some ToS rules) for free. You can post a creative video that may be seen by thousands without needing to sell ownership to some company. They play ads to pay for its associated costs and yes, to turn a profit, while giving a small portion to the creators as an additional incentive. But they are not intended to replace regular income in a meaningful way. I have never heard of anyone suggesting that trying to do so is a good idea, including the big name content creators that by exception do manage to earn a living from it.

    If you think it should be a reliable way to make money, I would say you have the unfair expectation for it. I would compare it to complaining that a service that teaches you how to knit is only sufficient for hobbyists and rarely allows one to build a successful company selling clothes. That's just beyond the scope of what it's there for.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago*

    See, this is technically true. But that is not how (say) YouTube presents itself.

    They market professional creators, and algorithmically prioritize them. They set up extensive systems for them. They divert away from external linking, and create systems to explicity keep people withing their ad ecosystem. To regulators, YouTube argues that it's still that same site to post "creative videos" to, like the cat video site it was a long time ago. Yet in the same breath, they turn around and do everything they can to crowd out professional journalism and media, to promite it across services, even viewing it as their "attention competition."

    They're having their cake and eating it.

    Discord's the same. They depict it as private chat for gamers and friend groups, when it's really host to larger interest communities, and eating similar sources alive.


    Hence I disagree.

    YouTube is setting the expectation for creators to make money, while arguing exactly what you're arguing in court. And this:

    I would compare it to complaining that a service that teaches you how to knit is only sufficient for hobbyists and rarely allows one to build a successful company selling clothes.

    This is true! Yet YouTube wouldn't be caught dead saying it, as it would cost them attention.

    And that's not okay.

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  • [–] 39 points 11 months ago

    Having to use a VPN to learn about neural networks feels somewhat dystopian.

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  • [–] 203 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    good work censoring one of the names

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  • [–] 99 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    She's literally a public figure posting for money. You can see her name below. Obviously the person who censored it doesn't understand the topics of her content.

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  • [–] 34 points 11 months ago

    To compare this to music streaming, I have a couple of tracks with ~4 million listens, and they each made ~$20.

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  • [–] 18 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Her name is crossed out in the post, but not her screenshots….

    Weird.

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  • [–] 20 points 11 months ago

    Also why we hiding the name of the YouTuber? Presumably they actually want people to find their content otherwise they wouldn't have uploaded it.

    This self-censoring epidemic is getting stupid.

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  • [–] 18 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    She's very suggestive in her choice of dress in most of these videos that are on her pornhub though, so there's that.

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  • [–] 31 points 11 months ago (5 children)

    This is another sign of how youtube's story of "we've never made a profit" is bogus. More and more organisations are advertising on youtube, youtube is pushing the limits on the amount of advertising that viewers can stand & at the same time they've started paying creators less.

    It looks like they've really started abusing their market position in the last few years: more income and less expenditure. And it's probably no coincidence that there are no financial figures for youtube alone.

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  • [–] 9 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    Someone did the math and estimated YouTube would cost $2bn in cloud costs (i.e. no creator payments) if hosted on AWS.

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  • [–] 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

    I found an estimate of annual expenditures of 3.25 billion, without content payouts, but with engineering/legal/moderation costs. As 2024 revenue I found back 36 billion from advertising & 14.5 billion from subscriptions. Forbes had an article where Google claimed to have paid out $70bn in 2021-2023 to content creators, this number probably includes subscriptions. In those 3 years youtube had an ad revenue of 89.5 billion, but I have no number for subscriptions. These are all very opaque numbers. Based on these opaque numbers, I'd guesstimate youtube's profit margin at 42%, which I find excessive.

    $36bn ad revenue + $14.5bn subscriptions: https://www.businessofapps.com/data/youtube-statistics/

    $3.25bn annual expenditures: https://www.clrn.org/how-much-does-youtube-cost-to-run/

    $70bn payed out to creators from 2021 to 2023: https://www.forbes.com.au/news/innovation/youtube-70-billion-creator-payments/

    Edit, how I got to my guesstimate of 42%:
    36bn ad revenue in 2024. An average of 30bn ad revenue in the 3 years prior. Estimation for the subscription income in those 3 years: 30/36 x 14.5 x 3=36 billion. 73bn expenditures & 126bn income = 53bn profit. 53/126 = 42%.

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  • [–] 27 points 11 months ago (9 children)

    You gotta get a million views to earn a thousand bucks?!

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  • [–] 40 points 11 months ago (6 children)

    That has been true for a while. Ever since "the adpocalypse". I'm surprised you missed it because it felt like every YouTube creator was complaining about it for an entire year ( which I'm not really against, I just don't give a shit about YouTube inside baseball).

    That's why every video now has " brought to you by... Whatever" in the middle of it.

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  • [–] -4 points 11 months ago (5 children)

    YouTube creator was complaining

    Yeah I don't invest much time into addressing youtuber complaints. But I'll take what you said at face value.

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  • [–] 20 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    They're working class in the entertainment industry, their complaints are as valid as any other laborer.

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 child)

    It's also a machine that thrives on manufacturing drama for clicks. And I just won't engage in the 'meta drama' around any community.

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  • [–] 7 points 11 months ago

    Working conditions and payment disputes are not "meta drama" and more than a "community" it's an industry of freelancers. You may not care for it but independent entertainment is a huge part of our culture right now, in terms of hours watched per day and revenue generation. It's a parallel arm of the gig economy, uncontracted workers entirely at the mercy of huge media companies and the fickle public.

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  • [+] -8 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    I thought being a creator on youtube was about tricking people into doing massive amounts of video editing for very little pay.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago

    Absolutely true. There isn't a single content creator that knows how to edit their videos. This demanding task can only be done by people who don't create content. For every successful content creator, there are three broke editors adding JL cuts in iMovie.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    A $1 CPM (per thousand impressions) is actually pretty good for a platform like Pornhub where I assume most people are logged out/incognito etc. on an adult content.

    If YouTube is really only paying out $0.34 CPM to that creator, that is atrocious. They must be getting like 20% rev share.

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  • [–] 12 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Are there any video essays on PornHub? Bonus if they're actual port with actual information.

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  • [–] 8 points 11 months ago

    I'm just imagining a world where YouTube is so shit and pays so poorly that most content creators move to pornhub, and it becomes a respectable place to go to learn stuff and watch video essays, more than porn

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  • [–] 12 points 11 months ago

    omfg i remember running into this video like about a year ago. legit good study material :^] (no but fr better than some of my professors). There are also cybersecurity guides but ehh.. they all stopped posting.

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  • [–] 20 points 11 months ago

    All you need to know in 1 visual, and yes that's monthly, not yearly :

    from https://substack.com/home/post/p-160984454

    Compare that to the average teacher in most countries, including countries like Finland or Luxembourg which pay their teachers quite well.

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  • [–] 16 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    i really wish someone would makes a great youtube alternative that pays $1-5 cpm, but DOESN’T shut down like blip or vidme. it DOESN'T have to be a cooprative, but it should. seriously!

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  • [–] 10 points 11 months ago* (1 child)

    Storing videos, and streaming them without latency is a huge problem. Specifically if you also have to process for different resolutions and such for different devices.

    Edit: I don't know how true it is now, but in the past YouTube would have local servers and specific agreements with ISPs for higher bandwidth for them in many countries.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago

    It's also quite expensive. YouTube only broke even for over a decade after Google got their hands on it, and Google can afford to host the servers, and manage distribution themselves.

    A new player would find it much harder in today's landscape. When YouTube was made, it had the advantage that of not having that many viable competitors. That's no longer the case today.

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  • [–] 7 points 11 months ago

    Dunno if my math is wrong, but i think she made more money from youtube than pornhub. So for this particular case youtube is still better besides the low cpm. So im not sure where we going with that. PH ca. 33$ and YT ca. 340$

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  • [–] 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

    Just watched the whole video. She explains chemistry so well

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago

    Almost 3x higher pay per million views, but that specific PH video has less than 5% of the total views of YT

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    Not available in several states.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago* (2 children)

    per 1 million views

    What is the average view count on something like this... do they commonly reach multi-million view counts?

    Edit: Yes, I'm an old man.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago

    knowledge is so sexy[

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago

    Wait , what !?

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago

    maybe upload the videos onto vimeo?

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    1 mil views is a lot. I'd have to pay more than 1k to get that many people to watch one video

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    They low this? Also, helps that she is well endowed, which may not have been her intention.

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