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[–] 32 points 11 months ago* (5 children)

We compare the slop of the present to the masterpieces of the past because we don't remember the slop of the past.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    Any you'll forget about it in about two or three years.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Isn't that what they said Movies would do to you in the 30s?

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    [–] 30 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    I'll try to be generous to your meme but it's hard. I'll say I used to be like that, part of the majority who thought going to a movie meant it needed to have action, a superhero, or magic. It gets tiring and repetitive though.

    A recent example was train dreams. Me 10 years ago would have called it a snore fest. Now? I have much more respect for movies and it ripped me up inside. So this meme is very subjective on the individual

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    For me, there's 3 reasons to watch movies. 1 is to kill time because I'm bored while being too tired to do anything that requires real attention. That's mostly been replaced by YouTube. The second is because I want to experience a good piece of art. And the third is for a fun experience.

    If I'm going to a theater, it's gonna he for a big, splash film with gorgeous visuals. I ain't paying 15-20 dollars a person for a slow, contemplative film I could enjoy at home.

    At the same time, when I'm by myself at home, I'm not really into the flashy stuff, because fun is something to share with friends and family. So that's when I watch the deeper stuff.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago

    Same, if I'm spending my time I need more than the predictable super hero plot, I want something with character and heart. It's hard to find but it is out there.

    For theaters there are smaller indie ones that do play big titles. Search out your local area to find what may be around you. Those are the ones worth giving your money to. I just won't go to AMC or Cinemark anymore on my own because of how low quality it is

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  • [–] 26 points 11 months ago

    This happens a lot with old movies.

    A film comes out that's revolutionary, so every film after it copies it. Future eyes lack that context, so they just see something that looks like everything else they've seen.

    Citizen Kane is a good example. The writing, editing, and cinematography were revolutionary at the time. But, through a modern lens, it appears very ordinary because it's very similar to every copycat that followed it.

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  • [–] 52 points 11 months ago (5 children)

    See, I find, that "critically acclaimed" and "popular" usually don't go well together. However, something with just critical acclaim from people I like (and sometimes a Criterion release) tends to be some of the most amazing things I've ever witnessed.

    But to the meme's point, Tarkovsky's Solaris was boring, and hard to understand for me, so much so I didn't ever finish it. I'll have to try again maybe from a different perspective.

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  • [–] 11 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    I actually enjoyed Solaris a ton for its pacing. It’s controversial understandably, but it felt like the story was moving at a real world pace, rather than the modern approach of one moment of action to the next.

    It’s a slow burn, for sure and I wouldn’t say it’s for everyone.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago*

    Spoiler for the OP:

    Tap for spoilerThe planet is an alien organism that grants wishes.

    All the subconscious thoughts of the people on the space station Solaris come true, their fears, and anxieties as well.

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  • [–] 25 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (6 children)

    It's not just you, my friend.

    Among many movies, I felt that way about Killers of the Flower Moon and it literally took me to fall into a random convo with the girl who cleans my office at work before I found a like-minded individual.

    That movie and The Irishman were piss, but everybody insists they are masterpieces because Scorsese made them. Scorsese is just like James Cameron and Fancis Ford Coppola where they have reached an age and are so accomplished that they have lost touch with the world and are surrounded by yes men who don't dare tell them no. And so they make very long and very shitty movies that are more for themselves than they are for anybody else. At least, Cameron is able to make his avatar slop entertaining while you're watching it even if it is forgettable af.

    Killers of the Flower Moon was particularly infuriating for me because it was so clearly just Scorsese making yet another movie about white men who are shitty, while pushing the native Americans off to the wayside as supporting casts in the movie that was supposed to be about them.

    I read the book too because people kept telling me my opinion was wrong and that this was a good movie that is very faithful to the book. Well, clearly every person who claimed this, did not read the book because the book very much stays with the native Americans and their perspective and the case is treated the way it normally would when you have a conspiracy/murder mystery. You get invested in this people, you fear for them and the revelations are horrible.

    Scorsese was like: how about we make the movie entirely about the bad guys and we have no reveals ever because we are told exactly what and how things happen from the start and treat the native Americans like they are ignorant, brain dead idiots who fall for the easiest trick in the book? Yeah, let's do that. Let's make the natives stupid and naive and have the conmen be super obviously evil and gross too, to the point that we don't understand how any of these native Americans could have ever called them friend or family. Let's race swap the only nice white man in the movie too. He was native American in real life,, but for whatever reason they made him white in the movie. I still don't know why they did that. I thought this was supposed to be authentic to real life. We do not race swap historical figures. I thought we all agreed that it was dumb when they made Anne Boleyn black. It's also dumb when we make a native American man white in a movie about how white men committed systematic murders on native Americans to get their money.

    Oh, let's also make the movie 4 hours long and throw a temper tantrum when cinemas around the world implement intermissions so that movie goers have a chance to pee and get refreshments. No no, this slop is ART and Scorsese-manchild wants you to sit through all 4 hours of his slop because it's his movie.

    Piss movie. I hated it so much and nobody agreed with me until I spoke to my cleaning lady who completely understood where I was coming from.

    The book is so much better. Such a well crafted blueprint for a suspenseful movie or TV show about a horrific chapter in native American history and how oil money attracts all the predators and vultures in the world to eat you and your family until nothing is left. Not even bone fragments.

    But no. Scorsese cannot make movies from any other perspective than that of white men with corrupt souls so, sorry, native Americans. You gotta be supporting casts in your own friggin story.

    Amazing. Piss movie. It riles me up everytime I think about it and it riles me up even more how much undeserved praise it recieved. Piss. Movie.

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  • [–] -3 points 11 months ago* (4 children)

    Thought it was good. I missed much of the hype before and after and went in blind.

    I think your anger is directed more at your expectations of it (a.k.a the ad/hype machine) than the film itself

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    I didn’t follow the hype. All I knew about the movie before going into it was that Scorsese had rewritten the script because he realized he had made a movie about white men and forgotten the native Americans. To which I now ask: what the fuck was the script like before?

    I’m glad that you liked it, but please don’t make assumptions about me disliking it because I supposedly fell for a hype train. That is not what happened.

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  • [–] -1 points 11 months ago* (2 children)

    From your long drawn out text that goes into Scorcese's filmography, I assumed you were well informed of his upcoming works and watching something because of a script re-write tends to lend itself a sense of expectation.

    I think you might be plugged into the hype machine more than you might allow yourself to believe

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  • [–] 14 points 11 months ago (10 children)

    For me it's Gravity (the one with Sandra Bullock crying in space) and the last two Nolan Batman films. I just don't understand why people like them so much.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Nah man, see... you didn't watch it right.

    First time I saw Gravity I was high as fuck on edibles and watched it on 42" plasma screen.

    Shit was like the best 90 minute theme park ride of my life lmao

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Are you including the dark knight there? I though that was the best of the three.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    See this is what I'm saying. Everyone praises Dark Knight, so I went in all excited to see what the hype was about, only to leave the film thinking "this is it"?

    It's not a bad movie, per se; I think the problem is that the hype had set my expectations sky high, and I don't think it could ever live up to expectations, no matter how good it was. But honestly just about every scene that didn't have Heath Ledger in it had me falling asleep on the couch. The cinematography was good (especially the IMAX shots) but I just wasn't interested in the plot.

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  • [–] 35 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    KPop Demon Hunters came out this year.

    It sounds like a cheesy kids' movie. It even kinda looks like one. Or, at least, before it got super popular when everybody realised "hey, this movie is actually really good" and started playing the soundtrack nonstop between viewings. And not just little kids, middle-aged people like it, too. I've been watching and loving movies for about 40 years, and I remember seeing Mortal Kombat (1995) in theaters, and being just floored by that opening. Cheesy yes, but techno music with sound bytes from the game (the Super NES/Genesis game!) while flames roasted the dragon logo? Movie intros usually aren't that cool. Movies aren't meant to be a thrill ride. They play the long con. KPop Demon Hunters was the first one in a long time (I guess 30 years) that gave me the same feeling. I felt it when the first song hit. Then the scenes with the light flashing in the plane windows. I knew I was in for one hell of a ride. I've seen it four or five times now, and it doesn't get old. It may not be good like a Scorcese or Tarantino movie, but it's fun, and that's good. It's more fun than all the recent-ish Star Wars movies. I remember when those were fun. Someone lost the memo.

    Movies don't have to be good if they're fun. A lot of people liked Minecraft, Five Nights at Freddy's, The Emoji Movie... I haven't seen any of them. But KPop Demon Hunters looked pretty stupid, too, until I gave it a chance. If a movie makes you forget about the bad shit in the world for a couple hours, it's done its job. Let's stop asking much more than that from movies. Sure, I have a niche I absolutely love (smart/weird flicks like I Origins, Predestination, Donnie Darko... even if they're pseudo-intellectual, if I can dig into it, I love that shit) but a fun dumb movie is cool in my books.

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Well shit. I might just have to watch Kpop hunters. I kept seeing it but I didn't care enough to look into it.

    I know the exact feeling with watching Mortal Kombat because I watched it in the theaters and thought it was great.

    "Your soul is mine.". Cutt to techno music 🎵🎶🎵🎵🎶

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago*

    Kpop Demon Hunters initially looks like a girlie movie that was shoehorned into being an action flick.

    It's a drama, interspersed with enough comedy and action to make you forget that it's a drama. The story isn't anything special, but it has well-done emotional beats backed by a soundtrack that elevates it. It is absolutely worth watching. (And the animation is fantastic.)

    Don't go into it expecting a cinematic masterpiece; it's made for kids. It is also, however, a kid's movie that is intended to entertain the adults who take their kids to see it.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago

    I watched it with my wife. I can see how it became popular, especially the music, but it's not for me. I didn't like the movie due to the music.

    The animation, however... I'm honestly excited for the sequel JUST for the animation!

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  • [–] 8 points 11 months ago

    Hey now, Crash came out like twenty years ago.

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  • [–] 8 points 11 months ago (8 children)

    A few of my friends recommended Eraserhead. It felt like David Lynch was seeing what he could get away with.

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  • [–] 9 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Eraserhead isn’t a movie to be enjoyed, it’s a movie to be regretted, for the rest of your life….
    fun fact: that’s a real horse embryo

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago

    Another fun fact: it was based on Lynch's feelings of becoming a father to a baby with deformed feet. His daughter's feet are ok now, they have a good relationship and she became a film director too!

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  • [–] 7 points 11 months ago

    I absolutely love David Lynch, but Eraserhead is not the first, second nor third Lynch movie I would put on at any given time. I love the radiator girl segment in the film. The rest is forgettable.

    I'm more of a Mulholland Drive fangirl. It is one of the best movies ever made in my humble opinion.

    Someone also mentioned Elephant Man which is likewise a stellar movie.

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago (3 children)
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    You'd think so, but then he makes The Elephant Man and The Straight Story. Both pretty grounded and simple to follow scripts with not too much Lynchness to them. I honestly don't know what to make of Lynch.. he was a man of contrast.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (1 child)

    I saw someone suggest The Elephant Man as the best way to introduce someone to Lynch, and after watching it, I totally get it. Amazing film.

    Unfortunately, it's next to impossible to find these days and I was only able to watch it after finding a torrent.

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  • [–] 7 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Not sure if memes are allowed here. Apologies if they aren’t.

    We allow memes occasionally. Tagged post under "Humor".

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  • [–] 12 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    I watched "Hugo" because it was so critically acclaimed. It had all the awards. Critics loved it.....

    Most boring, pretentious, film-school self-masturbatory slog I've ever watched.

    The plot was either boring or incoherent. There a boy in a train station? And now there's a steampunk robot who... draws movies or something? And some old dude in a shitty apartment has a bunch of obscure history films? What tf are we doing? And the robot is magic now?

    The only reason it got high marks is so every critic to wax themselves about how bigbrain cultured they are. The totally got all the niche nods/ode/references and it totally justified their bullshit college degrees.....

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  • [–] 10 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    You watched a children's adventure comedy movie and surprised it's a but nonsensical? Unless the critics sold it as something it's not, I think this one is in you 😄

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    I watch very few movies but when I do, my opinon of it generally the opposite of the critic's review on Rotten Tomatoes.

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago

    II hate bitching about RT scores but some of them are just staggering to me.

    28 years later is one of the worst movies I have ever seen and it is highly rated on RT.

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago (5 children)

    Our breakfast television has a movie critic straight out of the feuilleton. Any movie that people actually go to is automatically bad, and there is not enough praise for art house films that makes people fall asleep in the cinema and never even make it to TV or streaming.

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    Frankenstein was pretty damn good imo.

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  • [–] 12 points 11 months ago (6 children)

    It was, and that is one of the worst movies I've seen from Guillermo Del Toro IMO. If you enjoyed his adaptation of Frankenstein, you're doing yourself a disservice if you haven't seen Pan's Labyrinth or The Devil's Backbone. Depends on if you're okay watching subtitled, though.

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago

    Or motherfucking Pacific Rim. That movie is literally just "big robot go boom" and it's fuckin awesome.

    Crimson Peak was pretty meh imo. The visuals were interesting, and I liked the designs of the ghosts.

    I haven't watched Frankenstein yet but I want to. Stupid Netflix.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    I'll admit I haven't seen Pan's yet and I will be watching it this Friday after remembering about it. My first child was born in 2019 which is probably why it fell off my list.

    I really enjoyed his adaption of Pinocchio a couple years ago.

    I did watch Chronos yesterday for the first time, and while it's quite dated now the overall premise and story still stands out to some degree.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago*

    Don't forget Pinocchio. In my opinion, that is the best Del Toro movie. Practically flawless and it is a crime that Netflix didnt put it in cinemas and that they refuse to put it on DVD or bluray. Fuck them for real.

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  • [–] 0 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    I thought the cgi was pretty lackluster for a 2014 movie. Looked like a ps2 cutscene at times. But I still enjoyed it. The werewolves were hot.

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  • [–] 8 points 11 months ago* (8 children)

    I'm bitter and old, AND movies have gotten worse. All those things are true.

    I have better now luck with TV shows. Currently, Pluribus is good.

    I'm on here now, because I couldn't find anything to watch tonight. I'm hoping One Battle After Another is good, we'll see. Often, I turn off a new movie less than 15 minutes in.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (7 children)

    I watched Point Break last night for the second time. Great film. Very unaware of how gay it is though, and I wonder what 90s mainstream audiences thought of it

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago (6 children)

    we just thought it was an awesome, underrated bro movie. bro as in brothers and male relationships.

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  • [–] 0 points 11 months ago* (5 children)

    A lot of male asses being shown, and guys who hold eye gazes longer than can be deemed non-romantic.

    Also "young, dumb, and full of cum" isn't something you typically say to a new hot shot. You say they're "full of spunk".

    Edit: Oh shit, it's all been gay all along. The whole damn english language!

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    full of spunk is a bit outdated of a phrase, but it still checks out.

    it's art, you're welcome to interpret it how you like! i'm just saying, i was there, that's how we interpreted it. since you asked.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

    Oh absolutely, it's a great film! Just watching with a modern lens kind of makes you miss that innocence in filmwriting where macho hotshots "testing" each other comes across now more like closeted bromances than what was perhaps intended.

    I kind of feel like a modern remake would lose that bromance edge, and would turn it more into a standard action film which would ruin the magic of the original.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Recently I went on IMDB and created a list of highly fan rated movies from the past 2 years. So far they have been hard to watch.

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