Hillary, go to hell.

And she wonders why people hate her guts

Go learn to suck a dick.

Go fight Donnie over Bubba's dick and shut the fuck up. Genocide is bad, mmmkay? Can't believe its hard to grasp.

The former US secretary of state described it as “serious problem for democracy”, remarking that when she attempted to have “reasonable discussions” with young people, it was challenging because “they did not know history, they had very little context, and what they were being told on social media was not just one-sided, it was pure propaganda".

Look, lady, at some point the prior history doesn't matter. The history we're experiencing right the fuck now is a single day, a single attack, by Hamas responded to by two fucking solid years of calculated extermination and nullification of the Palestinian people.

It doesn't fucking matter what happened thirty god damned years ago when the average age in Gaza before Oct 7th 2023 was fucking sixteen! Guess what Hillary you fucking idiot, 16 year olds haven't been alive long enough to have had anything to fucking do with that history!

The fucking audacity of her ass to be talking about the "history!"

Of all people, this bitch deserved to lose to Trump. She even used her connections to promote him in the media because she was fucksure she would end up in the general election against Jeb Bush. That's what you get for fucking over Bernie Sanders!

Prime example of how boomers lack media literacy skills.

She should Pokemon Go the fuck out of politics.

Hillary Clinton is literally a psychopath

That's weird because I've never been on that app, am older, and probably hold some similar views. So where are my views coming from? You just have to have a heart and then you can see things correctly. It's only fair to hold standards against everyone. Israel doesn't get a pass. Not on morality.

gee maybe you should ask your mentor, arch fucking ghoul nixon enabler Henry Kissinger for some advice IN HELL

No one likes you or your opinions, Hillary. Your time was over when you lost to Piggy. That was 11 years ago. Now just stfu.

Ah yes, because some historical context will certainly justify the genocide.

I spent two years in college studying the history of the Middle East and specifically the conflict between Israel and Palestine. I have never been on TikTok. Then where the fuck did my pro-Palestine views come from? I know the history very well and Israel has been unreasonable assholes from the beginning. Yes, Hamas and Palestine need to stop leading with violence, but when you're fighting for your country's literal existence it's a bit of a moral grey area. The whole situation is a shit show and it infuriates me that Israel has so much support from the US. Without the 800lb gorilla backing them I feel like they'd have been forced to negotiate a reasonable solution long ago. Instead, here we are with a wildly disproportionate response that is 2 years long and the US has effectively cheered them on.

Hilary and her entire generation of politicians can get fucked.

Why would context even matter? A genocide is a genocide no matter the context. It can NEVER be justified.

I have had similar discussions with a right-wing conspiracy theorist (friend of my dad) that also used to justify genocide. I do think and hope that our conversation has led to some positive change in his views. He used to get super triggered when I called what is happening is Palestine a genocide but today I think he accepts it. Or at least he no longer denies it completely. I have stood my ground and kept challenging whatever he has said.

Don't give up on the people around you! Take the discussion, challenge their views. Call out any attempt to justify genocide. You don't need to argue with these people about facts, history or whatever. Just a call out of any attempt to justify genocide is enough. Don't let them keep spreading their hate unchallenged. Violence and hate can never win.

While I concede it's not only possible, but in fact, likely that many people are unaware of the 10 volume set of War and Peace size novels which recount the history of conflict in the Middle East, I find it incredibly out-of-touch that she can't understand that the starving and murder of an entire ethnic group is considered abhorrent by a large amount of the youth.

We don't need to know every facet to know genocide when we see it. I'm so tired of the constant Israel propaganda here in the states. You'd think they were the superpower and we were completely beholden to them in every way with the amount of kowtowing our politicians do. It's insane.

I can't believe people still pay her to speak at these events. What a waste of money.

Is she seriously stuck on the whole "Israel doesn't bomb hospitals" crap?

Hillary should worry more about Bill being in the epstein files and stfu

I don't use tiktok

Am pro palestine

make it make sense

Hillary... You're barely a has-been at best, and Bill cuck at worst. Kindly fuck off into obscurity and even more irrelevance, nobody wants to hear your dog shit, conservative opinion.

Old dems should stfu

Why are these asshats so reluctant to admit that Isreal is in the wrong?!?

Hillary Clinton's mouth to blame for everyone's disdain of Hillary Clinton.

She needs to Pokemon gtfoh

Fuck you bitch. We should have had Bernie Sanders as our president, instead we got Hilary as a failed candidate

Of course it's other people who are misinformed, don't understand the context and have a one-sided view of the war. It can't possibly be her.

Make like a toad and croak. Nobody likes you Hillary.

She might be right about young people not having much context as a general rule - I've seen this kind of Dunning-Kruger thing before when someone in their teens/twenties first comes across something and they start to have some political awakening. Think of the way that some people fall into the most maximalist of positions on the spectrum and how cringe it often seems, often to later versions of that very person, LOL.

Anyway, I think the cracks on Israel being some united front on our "special relationship" with them and as far as the average U.S. citizen supporting it w/o question have been starting long before TikTok was even a thing.

And most of the people I've talked to over the years, or things I've seen others write/say online has had plenty of context. Hell, Chomsky has been out there talking about this for decades. It's just that the gatekeeping corporate media chokehold on people being able to talk to one another about this, en masse has been loosened, starting in the late 90s.

Used to be someone could yell "anti-semite" at anyone questioning us doing Israel's every whim and that was the end of the conversation. That tactic's effectiveness started to erode with the rise of the 'net. Are some of the people that obsess about Israel/Gaza and Jews/Palestinians anti-semitic? Of fucking course they are. Is everyone? Hell no.

She blamed Bernie Sanders for her failure and got with a dude in the Epstein files. Why would anyone trust her judgment??

What a fucking massive twat. No wonder bubba went gay for Trump.

Hey lady ! What the fuck happened to your face !? You look maga

I've been watching TikTok and didn't even know it.

Get bombed and tortured in an Israeli concentration camp you fucking bitch

What a useless ankle. I mean that in the Arkansas view of that word. Another hateful useless person who wont accept that their version of history is a lie. The document that gave isreal statehood also gave the same for Palestine and they have never honored it. That is the history of it you useless piece of shit. Another horrible person who has no idea how horrible they are.

Hillary Clinton is a pedophile

Speaking on Tuesday at a summit hosted by the right-wing Israeli paper Israel Hayom in New York City

She's catering to the far-right Israeli crowd under the illusion that interest group isn't popularly considered toxic & waning in influence/political power.

i mean in a way tiktok is to blame or views on palestine... because tiktok was the first time you could see actual on the ground reporting from gaza instead of the sanitized version of the conflict in the us media. this is a good thing.

Hillary Clintonberg is here to tell you that your eyes, ears, and heart are, actually, totally wrong.

Don't you have a whistleblower to suicide, Hillary?

I think you can kind of stretch it to be true if you try real hard but it's stupid to blame TikTok for this. TikTok skews younger, and this is a cause that is popular with the younger generation, so yes TikTok will trend as more supportive of this cause and will reinforce those views via algorithm and the algorithm does not necessarily have to care if things are factual or not so popular things will not always be factual. It's a lot of words to not say anything useful, so she's basically one step away from shitposting on Lemmy right now.

Her comments about not knowing the history are interesting to think about though, because I think she's mostly talking about the news coverage some of us grew up with. Remember that we used to think we could trust our news and there's been a lot of coverage on this historically. Most over around 30 have a pretty good memory of the coverage around 9/11 and the 'war on terror' and are pretty much done thinking about the conflict after finding out that the Palestinian government is ruled by Hamas and will at best say "I feel bad for the people who have to live in Palestine". It's even worse when you get to the 40s-50s range and have someone old enough to have watched the news when modern Palestine was kind of forming into it's current form in the 80s. Somewhere in between is anyone who at any point in time heard any coverage at all about the original charter Hamas was founded on, it's rough. Definitely didn't invent it and they weren't the only ones using the tactic, but for a lot of us, Hamas were also the first guys you heard about when you first learned the term 'Suicide Bombing' on the news too. I don't really want to see the numbers, but I do wonder who holds the record for the most suicide bombings they've publicly claimed responsibility for, we definitely at least knew who these guys were. Some people say you have to separate the people from their government and then the government from their past, but that statement resonates less and less depending on how old the person you're talking to is. Just an interesting retrospective. I still think the basis of the comment is kind of stupid, but it does bring to mind some interesting thoughts.

Interesting numbers, other sources out there will say much the same, but I've always felt that pew research bias is pretty minimal: https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/04/02/younger-americans-stand-out-in-their-views-of-the-israel-hamas-war/

She's not wrong about folks not knowing a lot of the history and background, but she is kind of missing the disproportionate collective punishment aspect of things. Netanyahu is forming peoples' opinions.

Hopefully, the Clintons fucking disappear soon

Is it possible she was also referring to young Jewish people believing propaganda on TikTok?

Social media influenced “not just the usual suspects, but also young Jewish Americans who don’t know the history and don’t understand,” she added.

Reader, it is.

I'm not trying to dis your post but:

Hillary Clinton is a bad person with all kinds of bad opinions. Is she still truly influencing policy, though? Is she an important bellwether on something? Or is this an article that's basically like, "Hey! Remember that shitty person who used to be in politics like a decade ago? Yeah, they're still alive, still shitty, and I bet you're sorry I reminded you they exist!"

TikTok and social media are to blame for showing people what we suppress the regular media not to!

Hey, guess what? No history excuses genocide

https://www.newsweek.com/netanyahu-arrest-warrant-list-countries-comply-icc-1990062

Is the ICC watching too much TikTok, Hillary?

Is it possible she was also referring to young Jewish people believing propaganda on TikTok?

Social media influenced “not just the usual suspects, but also young Jewish Americans who don’t know the history and don’t understand,” she added.

Reader, it is.