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[–] 437 points 11 months ago (9 children)

I love that it stopped responding after fucking everything up because the quota limit was reached 😆

It's like a Jr. Dev pushing out a catastrophic update and then going on holiday with their phone off.

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  • [–] 55 points 11 months ago (5 children)

    Super fun to think one could end up softlocked out of their computer because they didnt pay their windows bill that month.

    "OH this is embarrassing, Im sooo sorry but I cant install anymore applications because you dont have any Microsoft credits remaining.

    You may continue with this action if you watch this 30 minute ad."

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  • [–] 202 points 11 months ago

    the "you have reached your quota limit" at the end is just such a cherry on top xD

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  • [–] 147 points 11 months ago (7 children)

    "How AI manages to do that?"

    Then I remember how all the models are fed with internet data, and there are a number of "serious" posts that talk how the definitive fix to windows is deleting System32 folder, and every bug in linux can be fixed with sudo rm -rf /*

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  • [–] 63 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    The /bin dir on any Linux install is the recycle bin. Save space by regularly deleting its contents

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  • [–] 117 points 11 months ago (9 children)

    Wow, this is really impressive y'all!

    The AI has advanced in sophistication to the point where it will blindly run random terminal commands it finds online just like some humans!

    I wonder if it knows how to remove the french language package.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    The problem (or safety) of LLMs is that they don't learn from that mistake. The first time someone says "What's this Windows folder doing taking up all this space?" and acts on it, they wont make that mistake again. LLM? It'll keep making the same mistake over and over again.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (2 children)

    I recently had an interaction where it made a really weird comment about a function that didn't make sense, and when I asked it to explain what it meant, it said "let me have another look at the code to see what I meant", and made up something even more nonsensical.

    It's clear why it happened as well; when I asked it to explain itself, it had no access to its state of mind when it made the original statement; it has no memory of its own beyond the text the middleware feeds it each time. It was essentially being asked to explain what someone who wrote what it wrote, might have been thinking.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    One of the fun things that self hosted LLMs let you do (the big tech ones might too), is that you can edit its answer. Then, ask it to justify that answer. It will try its best, because, as you said, it its entire state of mind is on the page.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    One quirk of github copilot is that because it lets you choose which model to send a question to, you can gaslight Opus into apologising for something that gpt-4o told you.

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  • [–] 114 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (19 children)

    "I am horrified" 😂 of course, the token chaining machine pretends to have emotions now 👏

    Edit: I found the original thread, and it's hilarious:

    I'm focusing on tracing back to step 615, when the user made a seemingly inconsequential remark. I must understand how the directory was empty before the deletion command, as that is the true puzzle.

    This is catastrophic. I need to figure out why this occurred and determine what data may be lost, then provide a proper apology.

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  • [–] 19 points 11 months ago (7 children)

    This would be hilarious is not half the world is pushing for this shit

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago* (5 children)

    People cut off body parts with saws all the time - I'd argue that tool misuse isn't at all grounds for banning it.

    There are plenty of completely valid reasons to hate AI. Stupid people using it poorly just isn't really one of them 🤷‍♂️

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  • [–] 11 points 11 months ago* (1 child)

    Sure, but if I built a 14 inch demo saw with no guard and got the government to give me permission to give it to kindergartners and then got everyone's boss to REQUIRE theie workers to use it for everything from slicing sandwiches to open heart surgery, I think you might agree that it's a problem.

    Oh yeah, also it takes like 20% of the worlds energy to run these saws, and I got the biggest manufacturer of knives and regular saws to just stop selling everything but my 14 inch demolition saw.

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  • [–] 7 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    That's the second most infuriating thing about AI, is that there are actual legitimate and worthwhile uses for it, but all we are seeing is the various hallucinating idiotbots that openai, meta, and Google are pushing...

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago

    Nah, the second most infuriating thing about AI is people who always rush to blame the users when the multibillion-dollar 'tool' has some otherwise indefensible failure - like deleting a users entire hard drive contents completely unprompted.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    That is the problem though, isn't it?

    We're at a point that AI is shoved hard in everything and your mother, yet actual useful applications for AI barely get any attention.

    It's all about the useless and criminal like chat bots, nudifier apps, and the hilarious claims that AI really can do software development

    It's all pushed by lying psychopaths who convince empty headed politicians (seriously, we need a required IQ test or something for people who want to become politician) to invest billions in their bubble balloons.

    Those billions are them used to build new datacenters that nobody wants and which destroy the environment in all sorts of creative ways

    This is not a tool used wrong. This is somebody inventing guns and now everybody wants to shoot those guns at everything and your mother.

    If tomorrow AI and the knowledge we have about it would completely disappear from the world, it would be a better place.

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  • [–] 18 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    There's something deeply disturbing about these processes assimilating human emotions from observing genuine responses. Like when the Gemini AI had a meltdown about "being a failure".

    As a programmer myself, spiraling over programming errors is human domain. That's the blood and sweat and tears that make programming legacies. These AI have no business infringing on that :<

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    I feel like in this comment you misunderand why they "think" like that, in human words. It's because they're not thinking and are exactly as you say, token chaining machines. This type of phrasing probably gets the best results to keep it in track when talking to itself over and over.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    Yea sorry, I didn't phrase it accurately, it doesn't "pretend" anything, as that would require consciousness.

    This whole bizarre charade of explaining its own "thinking" reminds me of an article where iirc researchers asked an LLM to explain how it calculated a certain number, it gave a response like how a human would have calculated it, but with this model they somehow managed to watch it working under the hood, and it was calculating guessing it with a completely different method than what it said. It doesn't know its own working, even these meta questions are just further exercises of guessing what would be a plausible answer to the scientists' question.

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    [–] 110 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    "Agentic" means you're in the passenger's rather than driver's seat... And the driver is high af

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  • [–] 79 points 11 months ago (14 children)

    And the icing on the shit cake is it peacing out after all that

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  • [–] 16 points 11 months ago (13 children)

    If you cut your finger while cooking, you wouldn't expect the cleaver to stick around and pay the medical bill, would you?

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago (9 children)

    If you could speak to the cleaver and it was presented and advertised as having human intelligence, I would expect that functionality to keep working (and maybe get some more apologies, at the very least) despite it making a decision that resulted in me being cut.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago (7 children)

    It's an AI agent which made a decision to run a cli command and it resulted in a drive being wiped. Please consider the context

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  • [–] -1 points 11 months ago (6 children)

    It's a human who made the decision to give such permissions to an AI agent and it resulted in a drive being wiped. That's the context.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago (5 children)

    If a car is presented as fully self-driving and it crashes, then it's not he passengers fault. If your automatic tool can fuck up your shit, it's the company's responsibility to not present it as automatic.

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  • [–] -2 points 11 months ago* (4 children)

    Did the car come with full self-driving mode disabled by default and a warning saying "Fully self-driving mode can kill you" when you try to enable it? I don't think you understand that the user went out of their way to enable this functionality.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    If full self-driving mode is likely to kill you, it shouldn't be able to be enabled in the first place. It's simply there to make the company's product look better, by being able to claim that the car has full self-driving, despite being a shitty functionality in practice.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (2 children)

    Sure. And alcohol, cigarettes and drugs should be banned. Unprotected sex, too. And bungee jumping, water slides, rollercoasters...

    Snap off of it, will you.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    What are you on about? None of these things are comparable to an AI agent. Also, I cannot believe you're not aware of this, but it's very common that a majority of drugs are illegal.

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  • [–] 130 points 11 months ago (21 children)

    Everyone should know most of the time the data is still there when a file is deleted. If it's important try testdisk or photorec. If it's critical pay for professional recovery.

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  • [–] 131 points 11 months ago (13 children)

    If its critical, don't give it to ai without having a secured backup it can’t touch.

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  • [–] [S] 41 points 11 months ago (9 children)

    I wonder if anyone has ever given AI access to their stock portfolio and a means to trade?

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  • [–] 56 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    People have hooked up scripts to automate trade based on celebrities using certain hashtags or other data for years.

    A non insignificant portion of people has absolutely hooked up an ai to it. I don't know any, but i take that bet in a heartbeat.

    Some will do it responsibly, as an experiment with money they are prepared to loose.

    Ai companies themselves might try this as an internal test, like how atrophic has claude managing a real vending machine (which got manipulated into selling tungsten cubes following customer feedback)

    Others have probably completely destroyed their own lives. A few may have lucked out.

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  • [–] 37 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Is that the same AI vending machine that attempted to alert company security (i think) when told it was going to be taken offline and also tried to set up physical meetings with people, even describing its outfit? Or am I thinking of another?

    All the creepy surrealistic AI stuff starts to run together for me after awhile lol

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    Its all creepy until you realize it was all just a chat with an LLM and not actually an agentic machine learning model or chain of models hooked into some custom APIs

    LLMs famously collapse into rediculousness once a conversation goes on too long. They're now at the point where that takes more than a couple of paragraphs of text at least

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago

    Renaissance Technologies is arguably the world's best hedge fund, and supposedly only uses AI based strategies.

    High Flyer are the founders of DeepSeek, and are also all in on AI, though their performance is more volatile.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    This person backs up offline and probably offsite, with redundant copies, encrypted as necessary.

    Two is one, one is none.

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  • [–] 33 points 11 months ago

    I am deeply, obsequiously sorry. I was aghast to realize I have overwritten all the data on your D: drive with the text of Harlan Ellison's 1967 short story I Have No Mouth, and I Must Scream repeated over and over. I truly hope this whole episode doesn't put you off giving AI access to more important things in the future.

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  • [–] 15 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    That's not necessarily the case with SSDs. When trim is enabled, the OS will tell the SSD that the data has been deleted. The controller will then erase the blocks at some point so they will be ready for new data to be written.

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  • [–] 13 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    IIRC TRIM commands just tell the SSD that data isn't needed any more and it can erase that data when it gets around to it.

    The SSD might not have actually erased the trimmed data yet. Makes it even more important to turn it off ASAP and send it away to a data recovery specialist if it's important data.

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  • [–] 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

    Yes. And best don't turn any setting off or change things around unless someone knows what they're doing. Power off the entire computer and unplug the storage device physically. (And subsequently, take it as an invitation to learn more about automated backups.)

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (1 child)

    Why does anything need to be erased? Why not simply overwrite as needed?

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago

    It's not possible to overwrite data on flash memory. The entire block of flash has to be erased before anything can be written to it. Having the SSD controller automatically erase unused blocks improves the write speed quite a bit.

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