I think we're beginning to see a serious shift about how people view Linux. I do think valve being on Linux will significantly legitimizes it, and drivers will become much more accessible for it. In the next decade I think we will see a big migration of gamers to Linux. Being on Linux myself, the experience is even more streamlined and less glitchy than just a year ago, just because of the widespread adoption of OS's like steamOS and bazzite.

They’ve promised that exact same thing for like at least three major windows versions.

The reality is that mostly people aren't going to leave Windows, so if Valve and Linux force Windows to improve it's still a win.

While I mostly agree with this, every time I see this mentioned it reminds me that MS-DOS Windows was not very popular, until a Microsoft employee offered to port Doom to DOS Windows, because he saw that if games ran on a platform people would use it and migrate naturally, that employee was called Gabe Newell. So I do have some hope that there's some bigger migration, and in fact we've seen the numbers steadily rising, and these sort of things tend to be exponential, so I wouldn't be surprised if it picks up speed.

Pvp doesn't work yeah, everything else does

Because I'm more curious about why things are the way they are just like the author, and would like to understand this with more data points, only making the comparison more helpful. I'm not saying author "should" consider impact of shader compilation, but I'm saying had they done, we'd understand the difference better.

They added asus vs Lenovo drivers data points, which alone tells us that driver optimization is responsible to a great extent. All I'm saying here is more data is more helpful.

Maybe even after taking care of that, the difference is huge, which will tell us its not enough to have precompilation of shaders. Maybe it does reduce the gap, telling us that potentially dx11 games might tend to do similarly.

Saying "RTX 5060 is better than 9060 XT" with 5 games tested is one level of comparison, but if they are grouped into RT and non RT games, games with 8gb and 16gb VRAM requirements, games with and without nVidia partnership, isn't that just more detailed and an even better comparison point?

Unless you use an RT kernel, Linux is not a realtime OS and certainly not a true one.

Because, you know, terms have a meaning.

While the bloat exists, even debloated windows wouldn't match proton because that's not the only reason. Despite bloat there are two games in this test the actually do similar or better than SteamOS. This means there's a confounding reason for the difference, not the bloat.

I recently switched from windows (with a debloat scrpit ran on it) to linux mint and I was shocked at how much faster it booted. When I turn my pc on I usually get up and do something else for a bit (not because windows is THAT slow but because I could spend the minute it takes to turn on to make lunch or something) and linux booted before I was out of my chair.

Methodology is important to a robust result. It's weird that you take issue with their considerations there.

It's not a slight, as I said it's a doubt, not criticism. I'm not saying "did the author EVEN ..."

Ray tracing is my guess

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Hogwarts legacy, which is a exe, runs on proton but not on windows 10. I'd say proton runs better than windows.

They're not only being better optimized on Windows which results that running them through Proton is better. In a lot of cases Windows versions actually run, while native Linux don't, because there's no single stable API (ABI? Idk) on Linux and games break when you update your system.

Proton is amazing, but it’s entirely overhead translating library/system calls to Linux.

That is not at all true.

but that’s a separate statement about games being better optimized on Windows.

Is that though? You can't say X is better than Y when you're changing multiple variables. If windows had a proton equivalent and both games ran through it then yes that would be a direct comparison. But you can't say X + Y is better than Z (by itself)

DXVK is a part of proton that also is available on windows. DXVK alone can get you double digit performance improvements on games. And that's not getting into all the one off tweaks users can do to proton to optimize the game. Enabling pre compiled shaders gave a huge performance boost for Elden Ring.

But have you tried Outlook (NEW) and Teams (NEW)?? Microsoft made changes to deeply integrate copilot into them, while making the UI unintelligible and broken as well. It's a much more authentic Windows experience

I was using Teams on Firefox and I've been thinking that FF is the problem that Teams's working horribly, but man, it works horrible on chromium as well

We don't know that yet. Allegedly some old Xbox console only games like prototype and the darkness are showing up on the PC Xbox app so who knows