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[–] 71 points 11 months ago (4 children)

I have a docker compose immich that I somehow managed to kill fourteen minutes after convincing my wife to switch to it.

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  • [–] 10 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Oh yeah, I've killed mine a couple times. Usually it's because I didn't keep it updated and jumped too far ahead too quickly. Rolling it back and walking it forward fixed it for me once, another time there was something I was supposed to run first and I didn't read the release notes (that one was a really long time ago though).

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  • [–] 7 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Every part of what you just said can be encapsulated in proper packaging so you don't even need to care -- about pre/post upgrades, or even dependencies and checks before it starts.

    The lack of a proper release is the absolute only thing keeping me from using it.

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  • [–] 120 points 11 months ago* (7 children)

    Tl;dr:

    • PhotoPrism: Local AI with strong privacy but heavier setup.
    • LibrePhotos: Same, but less polished, more community-built.
    • Immich: Best self-hosted Google Photos alternative.
    • Ente Photos: E2E encrypted, low-maintenance, most "plug and play"
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  • [–] 62 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    Immich's AI search is so much better than PhotoPrism

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  • [–] 12 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Apart from me maybe thinking immich should have built in backup tools, I’ve very much found it met my needs.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago

    Personally I host all this kind of stuff using containers, only mounting the folders that need backing up. Then I just back up all my podman volumes. It's pretty nice not depending on any tools that have to be maintained or anything like that.

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  • [–] 39 points 11 months ago (8 children)

    I tried Photoprism, Ente and Immich.

    Immich is by far the best. It has got an app that really does what it should do, has an AI that actually works and is easy to host and to update.

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    Last I tried Immich its background upload was horrible.

    Some of that is definitely iOS being bad, but other apps at least semi-worked when Immich didn’t at all.

    I might try it again, though. See if it’s improved.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    When I used iOS, background upload seemed to work okay. On both iOS and Android, though, I occasionally go into the app to manually backup since both like to kill background processes to save on battery life.

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  • [+] 2 points 11 months ago (3 children)
  • [–] 35 points 11 months ago

    Immich + a backup solution of your choice. If it's worth saving, it's worth backing up. Try to follow 321 as much as possible, but having at least a second copy is a good start.

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  • [–] 21 points 11 months ago (16 children)

    Anyone with Nextcloud Memories setup? I've read it's the only one that still respects a sane files and folders setup, whereas the other options basically force you to forever use their database-based system and files are terribly organized, so you are forced to use their interface.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    Since I would recommend everyone 3-2-1. I have both a good structured photobackup AND immich.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago* (2 children)

    What do you use for 3-2-1? I try, so far I have my phone, backed up to a server HDD via SMB (Too poor for RAID-1 atm), and the very important stuff sent to a USB drive and returned to a drawer. Am I doing it right haha

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Couple of considerations for you.

    Is it a backup or a sync? Sync will sync your deletes and corrupted data.

    It's ideal that you have your USB offsite.

    I use restic and have a repo on a USB and a repo on AWS S3

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago

    I use Nextcloud Memories for uploading folders to quickly share to relatives. Love it, very straightforward for them to use.

    I also host Immich but unlike Memories not exposed, local only. I set Immich up because we found we never looked at our photos when they were just stored on a hard drive but we look at them much more now theyre easily accessible. I spent months slowly retrospectively tagging & adding geo locations to our photos in order to utilise the powerful search capability of Immich. I use the template option & set it up to match the folder structure of our photos.

    I'm using Kopia to back up the entire Immich directory including the nightly Immich-db dumps & ive also moved a backup of the backup to another drive, currently somewhere in the region of about 80+GB.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (5 children)

    I have it and immich set up. Nextcloud memories is fine, but for me the auto upload would randomly stop at some points. Overall ux with immich is better, but memories gets the job done.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    I use FolderSync to push my photos to Nextcloud. Much more reliable than their app

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (3 children)

    Does that automatically add it to the database or do you have a scan schedule?

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    I don't use Memories, but yes, uploading photos with FolderSync to Nextcloud (via WebDAV) does add them to the Nextcloud database. They show up as new photos in the recent activities list.

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  • [–] 13 points 11 months ago

    Another vote for immich here, works great and let's me shade albums with other accounts on my server.

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  • [–] 10 points 11 months ago (8 children)

    I started using photoprism. But their viewer doesn't show my 3D side by side stereo photos. Immich brings a better viewer that gets out of the way and it also has multiple users. The immich multiple user accounts function a bit weird. My family photos need to be shared as external libraries while our phone photos cannot be shared unless you share accounts. They did some decisions around handling multiple users that is not fabulous. I used photoprism for awhile but just a few months on immich I can tell its going to be a better experience.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (7 children)

    How do you take stereo photos?

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  • [–] 7 points 11 months ago (6 children)

    I 3D printed a special lens to do that. It basically holds 4 mirrors to catch two images on the same sensor slightly apart ~2.75" apart or so.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    Sounds cool! I love 3D. Is there a guide online at all?

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    There isn't an online specific place for 3D printing optic assemblies but there are plenty of places to read about stereo photos. There's even a software called stereophotomaker that helps you crop and adjust the photos you take.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (1 child)

    So you designed the mount yourself?

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    Yeah its pretty simple yet very much not trivial. You can get images that are relatively fine by just making one from cardboard even. All you need is 4 mirrors. Two pairs for one side and two for the other. The non trivial part is how to fill the whole sensor frame and what specific angles to use for your specific lens. I'm using a 40mm lens full frame. 35mm can see the inside of the adapter so that's not good. It gets worse with the wide lenses on your phone, but you can still get an image you can crop. And its its really freaking cool to see your kids and family in 3D on your phone on a finished image. Unfortunately my family runs from the camera and doesn't get the 3D effect at all..and doesn't even want to try. But whatever. Maybe one day when I'm long gone, one of their kids will find an old rusty SD card and discover the awesome thing that 3D is. I don't understand why all the 3D headset makers haven't jumped on this with a standard....simple, have all new phones get 2 cameras, and then create the software to take the images or video. Finally have that video in a standard format for all viewers. There's plenty of smart people that can do this.

    Oh and yes, you can do 3D video and it kicks wide angle viewed video so so much. It's phenomenal to watch my kid slide down a slide in 3D. I know it sounds stupid but man....the possibilities for the right open minded community are endless.

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  • [–] 8 points 11 months ago

    One more vote for Immich. While I don't like how it's not easy to create albums from existing folder structures out of the box, the search and face recognition is amazing for a free self hosted app.

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    It wasn't mentioned in the list, but I like Photoview; it uses your existing file structure (rather than its own structure or a database), works with read-only access, accepts external syncing like Syncthing, and can handle multiple users. Not sure how it compares on features, but I just wanted something basic anyways, so I'm happy with it.

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    Wow these all sound so much better than Proton's photo backup. In the words of @mhzawadi@lemmy.horwood.cloud , it's pants.

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  • [–] 12 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    Proton reinventing the wheel is so stupid.

    They should use what's out there and improve it. Like including simplelogin. They should use immich, make it private, and include it in their setup. They even suck for calendar. You can't integrate it anywhere. Integrating email is difficult as well. They want to become the next tech silo. I am somewhat stuck with them for now but I may move to tuta if I can

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  • [–] 11 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Why is this even a point of discussion? Immich, period. It's like people NEED to make it more difficult and laborious than it has to be.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago

    For those who want a minimal no bullshit alternative: lychee is your best bet !

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago

    I selfhost immich in a netcup VPS. They have a 2tb VM for about 22 euros a month via a black Friday sale

    I'm on a 1tb arm plan for about 10 euros a month.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    I use nextcloud, the builtin photos app is pants. But memories is amzing

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    Does anyone know if any of these systems will interpret a Google takeout export from Photos? The data separation is brutal, I haven't found something to pull it together yet.

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  • [–] -2 points 11 months ago

    The short description seems to be written by a LLM, why?

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