TLDR: now supports

• HDR
• Animated PNG files
• Exif data

I didn't realize it had gone anywhere. It's always my first choice.

Um, actually it's pronounced png

Great news! PNG has always been my image format of choice due to its relatively good compression and support for transparency.

Did it go away? I still use it as my go to format for small lossless images.

What's next?

I know you all immediately wondered, better compression?. We're already working on that. And parallel encoding/decoding, too! Just like this update, we want to make sure we do it right.

We expect the next PNG update (Fourth Edition) to be short. It will improve HDR & Standard Dynamic Range (SDR) interoperability. While we work on that, we'll be researching compression updates for PNG Fifth Edition.

One thing I'd like to see from image formats and libraries is better support for very high resolution images. Like, images where you're zooming into and out of a very large, high-resolution image and probably only looking at a small part of the image at any given point.

I was playing around with some high resolution images a bit back, and I was quite surprised to find how poor the situation is. Try viewing a very high resolution PNG in your favorite image-viewing program, and it'll probably choke.

• At least on Linux, it looks like the standard native image viewers don't do a great job here, and as best I can tell, the norm is to use web-based viewers. These deal with poor image format support support for high resolutions by generating versions of the image at multiple pre-scaled levels and then slicing the image into tiles, saving each tile as a separate image, so that a web browser just pulls down a handful of appropriate tiles from a web server. Viewers and library APIs need to be able to work with the image without having to decode the whole image.

  gliv used to do very smooth GPU-accelerated panning and zooming

I'd like to be able to do the same for very high-resolution images, decoding and loading visible data into video memory as required.

• The only image format I could find that seemed to do reasonably well was pyramidal TIFF.

I would guess that better parallel encoding and decoding support is likely associated with solving this, since limiting the portion of the image that one needs to decode is probably necessary both for parallel decoding and for efficient high-resolution processing.

APNG wasn't officially part of the spec?!

HDR PNG is huge

Yes. But does Lemmy support .png?

Ahh.

Good. Kill webp and its incompatible ass.

Took me a second to realise you're not talking about Papua New Guinea.

Possibly the final version. Quite Okay Imaging (QOI) achieved similar compression with none of the complexity. Lossy + difference = lossless formats are surely the better option where performance is not crucial. Even the fact they fffucking finally made APNG official is decades late to replace GIF, since several image formats are now literally video formats.

The future is webp. And telling software patents to burn in hell.

May webp die a horrible death in its wake!

On the "better compression" front, I'd also add that I doubt that either PNG or WebP represent the pinnacle of image compression. IIRC from some years back, the best known general-purpose lossless compressors are neural-net based, and not fast.

kagis

https://fahaihi.github.io/NNLCB/

These guys apparently ran a number of tests. They had a neural-net-based compressor named "NNCP" get their best compression ratio, beating out the also-neural-net-based PAC, which was the compressor I think I recall.

The compression time for either was far longer than for traditional non-neural-net compressors like LZMA, with NNCP taking about 12 times as long as PAC and PAC taking about 127 times as long as LZMA.

I didn't know PNG ever went away. I'm using em all the time.

HDR and EXIF are great changes.. APNG, if already being used for some apps/services, seems a logic choice. Maybe it'll finally mean the end of gifs once and for all?

What I'm more excited for though, is the improvements in compression that the article hints that are being worked on. Specially if it can beat other more modern formats that have added lossless compression like jpegxl. I feel it's best to have separate formats for lossless and lossy, to prevent the off-chance of lossyness getting through.

Not that I've seen anything wrong with what we currently have, but this is big!

Even with the new spec PNG is far behind new standards like AVIF or JPEG XL.

Now the question is… New PNG vs. JXL. Which is queen?

Everyone, go update your 2003 forum avatars.

My friend, most people weren’t using PNG in 2003, especially for forum avatars. They were glitchy on browsers (IE) for almost a decade after that.

PNG is back!

I didn't even know it was gone