I feel similarly about people who voted Labour in the last UK election.

Because we don’t have a difference in political opinions. We have a difference in morality and ethics.

That exactly is the problem. They claim morality, but don't have them. They claim to be faithful Christians, but Jesus himself would probably take the whip again and drive them out for so violently abuse his teachings.

If you voted for Trump...

Sir, this is Lemmy?

There are those who chose to hedge for clout - sit it out in smug virtue, while avoiding accountability for allowing him into office.

I haven't spoken to my mother since Jan 19. She voted for this asshole (again). My partner is at risk because of my mother. I may never speak to her again. I still sent flowers on Mother's Day, however.

I'm not sure if Lemmy is the place where the right idiots will see this, but fully agreed.

i hope they suffer emotionally as well.

Only on the Internet is fundamental responsibility questioned.

You could do toxic positivity and say "any Trump voter can be redeemed. Realizing your errors of supporting trump and seeing how it affected people around you is a good start"

Right now they are coping or doing mental gymnastics

I got extremely yelled at for saying this about the last five presidents.

Yep, it's a classic Leopards Ate My Face. They got exactly what they voted for.

A couple I knew in college, basically they'd been together since childhood, moved to rural Minnesota, because conservative. They were militantly anti-mask and anti-.odern medicine. They refused the COVID vaccine and the whole family got sick several times. The husband finally died, on a respirator. His wife blames Biden. Sad.

Then it sounds like you have an absolutely normal amount of empathy as an American.
Which I should add is incredibly low, and my greatest shame of being an American myself.

If you can't feel bad for people who don't know they're victims of what may be the longest and most expensive con this nation has ever known, I don't know what else to say.

I agree that they brought it on themselves.

There are a few concepts that are getting muddled here, blameworthyness, and empathy. Both for you as the observer, and they as the subjects.

I don't think it's good to equate the two. They're distinct.

Should a laid-off oil worker struggling to feed their family be worthy of empathy from a republican voter if they themselves had voted Democrat? Would you celebrate the republican proudly declaring they had no empathy?

Would Elon Musk be celebrating your announcement now? He has declared empathy to be weakness, and you've announced that you've managed to squash yours for a large swathe of the population.

People can be to blame for their own pain. Does that mean they deserve no empathy?

And, what have you done to yourself in doing so? What human part of yourself have you killed or let whither to get to where you are now?

It's easy to be empathetic to people who are like yourself. It's more difficult to be empathetic to those different.

Regardless of blameworthyness, I don't think we should be proud of our ability to feel no empathy for others. It may be the case, but that's a personal weakness.

This is just great thinking

think about it. the Reps can use this endlessly to justify their apparent lack of empathy towards democrats

So under this framework, all the actions they are taking currently are fully justified, not only by themselves, but by the perceived "enemy"

Basically you have pigeonholed yourself into a pickle placed between 2 boulders called "a rock" and "a hard place", as you now cannot complain about anything they do as, well, that's the framework you are spouting about

So all is good with the world when you get shown no empathy

After all, in your heart of hearts, you voted for this 😉

LOL

"Well-qualified woman"

There are no qualifications for president, and if there were, neither Trump nor Harris would be suitable candidates. What kind of doofus looks at 25% unemployment and tells people to 'just be joyful' for three months of a campaign and says they won't change anything, again in full knowledge of Americans' impoverishment and Biden's unpopularity? (Not to mention her wet fart of a primary campaign in 2020.)

But if you want a woman with half a chance of winning, AOC is literally filling football stadiums in red states right now.

I have sympathy for them. Most Americans didn't vote for Donald out of ideological concerns. They voted Donald because they've gotten progressively poorer for four years while Joe Biden did nothing meaningful to help them.