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[–] 69 points 1 year ago

This is the kind of consent that Ai bros want. None

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Didn't something similar happen to the woman voicing Siri? She didn't know either that her voice was used on every iPhone. But I think in her case she knew at least that she had done a generic "virtual voice" gig.

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    They do this on purpose to under pay people. If she knew she was going to be the voice on every iPhone they'd have to pay her more.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    I used to do voice work and this is depressingly common. I'd get requests to "do some simple readings for a research project" or similar vaguely phrased nonsense. Sometimes they were honest and offered a depressingly small lump sum or royalties plan. I always refused, fuck that.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    I don't think this is particularly AI issue, more like corporate greed issue. Some company have fooled her to write contract that allows them to use her audio recordings to do this without her. This happens in many different industries.

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    [–] 72 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    That's not disturbing; that's completely fucked up.

    If they want to buy data to use for AI, they can pay someone to license their voice for its use. What they've done is no different to bootlegging, but it's worse because it's personally identifiable data.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    Do they pay people for use of their voice when they get a cheaper voice actor in who sounds just like them?

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    No.

    But often those people sue and win. Midler v. Ford, for example.

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  • [–] 84 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    This is stealing her voice. It's just plain wrong.

    What I really don't understand is, even if you think AI voice is okay, why not just make an original voice? Why you got to steal somebody's voice? Or if you don't want to do that, why not just get consent for the specific thing you're doing? Don't take advantage of the fact that she previously recorded her voice as an aid for the blind and steal her voice because of some small text in a contract. That's dishonest and pathetic.

    You're the railway. Do you know how many people love and obsess over trains and railways? There are probably tons of people who would pay to hear an AI version of their voice coming from the train speakers. How did it come to this? How incompetent can you be?

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  • [–] 48 points 1 year ago

    why not just get consent for the thing that you’re doing

    I would imagine because consent would require opening the door to paying someone for use of their likeness, and if they were going to pay someone fairly they could just pay a voice actor. The whole thing is a means of getting what they want without paying for it

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    What you really don't understand is, AI making an original voice is a pipe dream. You can average out voices of many different people who all had their content stolen. Originality is outside of its training set.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago*

    There are different things we're calling AI. One is engaging in endeavors that are traditionally seen as creative, like text or image generation.

    The AI we are talking about for this story is a text to speech engine that creates a believable voice. The voice parameters may be created by a human or AI or whatever. But that creation of the parameters of a voice is not the type of AI that we are talking about in this story.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    There are probably tons of people who would pay to hear an AI version of their voice coming from the train speakers.

    Yeah, but it needs to be clear, and as much as I love Dave from the pub, he tends to mumble.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    They should have gone the other route and just had the woman from 2 point Museum/Campus so it, complete with sarcastic remarks.

    "The train is delayed, but you know that already"

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Pay the lady!

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