Just fucking end first past the post already!
Stop treating the symptom and rip out the cause.
Just fucking end first past the post already!
Stop treating the symptom and rip out the cause.
This is so fucking hilarious. MAGA tried to illegally game the system, and brag about it at the same time, so California and others tried to match them, only legally.
Now the illegal MAGA plan gets shut down, while the legal Democratic plan moves forward. It looks like the Dems have stolen a MAGA plan, and improved on it, and will now beat MAGA with their own plan. Every single Blue state should do this. If suppression is good for MAGA, let's see how they like discovering that they created a two edged sword.
More of this, PLEASE.
Nope, that's the kind of thinking that let MAGA rise and take over.
Dems need to accept that they have to fight fire with fire. They don't have lie, cheat, steal, commit treason, be in the blackmail club, be/support pedophiles, etc., they just have to b play Hard Ball.
That's what MAGAs did during their larval Republican stage. McConnell played Hard Ball better than anyone, while Dems just forfeited the game entirely. It's time for them to get back on the game, and ruthlessly play Hard Ball by every obscure and arcane rule.
That's how you get more apathy and less people voting. Yes democrats have a problem with playing nice and not getting anything passed but they also have a larger identity problem of what they stand for and why people should vote for them, this is way more the reason Kamala lost then soft democrats as shown by the lack of turnout. If democrats don't stand for democracy, what are they standing for?
Also the more prevalent this becomes the more they will use it against there left flank as well. The less there is a threat of a third party emerging due to gerrymandering, the more centrist the democrats can go and the more they can ignore the left.
How do we push for accurate districting with the current over representation of conservatives from broken districting who will fight tooth and nail against accurate districting (where they will lose all power because they’re the regressive minority).
Unless you get burglarized every other night.
"We can't because then the Repugs will play dirty" is not an excuse. They have shown countless times that they will play dirty anyway. Grow a fucking spine.
California's prop 50 won't happen if Texas' plan doesn't happen. Prop 50 specifically states that it's a response to Texas's illegal gerrymandering attempts and is exacted only of Texas' attempt is not stopped
Actually, they removed the trigger language from Prop 50 shortly before the vote. So it is actually going more like what the person you're responding to had said.
Nice. So the 5 blue districts we just added in California aren't just canceling out those red seats, they're just adding 5 blue ones.
Now Illinois, Minnesota, and New York should step up.
Red states have been shamelessly gerrymandering for so long, that they have very few options for improvement left. The only reason they see a window now is because SCOTUS has shown a willingness to accept race-based suppression, which they wouldn't before. But they been so close for so long, that their moves are still limited.
But Dems have remained stupidly committed to fair play all along, despite it not being returned. So they have lots of potential to gain some seats and deny other seats to MAGA, and the Dems should exploit that potential RUTHLESSLY. The MAGAs surely would, if the courts would let them. Why should the Dems protect MAGAs from themselves, especially since THEY started it? This was a fight they started, and Ds should finish it, Ender-style.
afaik those laws only kick in if texas goes through with their plan
California’s law is only Mutually Assured Destruction. It applies in response to the gerrymandering of other states.
The only provision in the California law that makes it reasonable is that it’s time limited.
They pulled the reciprocity clause out at the last minute after Texas passed it's bill.
Womp womp.
Its probably for the better. Short of a clause triggered by eliminating the congressional district system entirely in favor of proportional voting, the idea of "counter-gerrymandering" clause is a major legal hazard'
The supreme court, for instance, might zero in on such a clause and cynically say California is 'violating the 10th amendment rights of other states' instead of having to find a way to strike it out under 14th amendment provisions (an amendment which the current supreme court hates)
This will probably just get appealed to the supreme court so they can further gut the civil rights act.
A low-key hilarious artifact of the prohibition of racial gerrymandering and acceptability of political gerrymandering is that Republican-gerrymandered maps are pretty much ALWAYS gonna be more overtly racially biased than Democratic-gerrymandered maps.
By which I mean: staunchly Republican supporting areas tends to lean heavily white, while staunchly Democratic supporting areas tend to be much more cosmopolitan and racially heterogeneous.
The thing is that, afaik, coincidentally gerrymandering by race isn't sufficient to get the map thrown out. It has to be intentionally gerrymandered by race, with evidence to support such an assertion.
And the incredible thing is that Republicans can't keep their damned racist mouths shut, and they keep incriminating themselves by either saying the quiet part out loud or getting so specific with their gerrymandering that it's no longer plausible that it's just a coincidence.
They'd get away with it if they were smarter (but then, if they were smarter they wouldn't be racists)
thats why they are get all upset with CRT too, its racial legal discrimination against POCs , more to agains tblacks. eventhough this is a legal concept taught in grad school.
Which is great until SCOTUS finishes fully gutting the Voting Rights Act next year.
I'm amused that if this does get stopped by judges, and the other one recently reportedly blocked for the same reason in another state, that if California redistricts their maps it's really going to be the GOP shooting themselves in the foot.
You just gotta love the naked corruption in front of your eyes and then still saying how free you are
You just keep appealling till someone lets it happen.
It's basically a game of hot potato where you don't want to be unlucky when the game ends, but nothing else matters. Pass it too early and you'll get it back, just with less time on the clock.
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