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[–] 159 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (13 children)

On a serious note, having been that guy, this is the worst experience ever.

15 years of slowly being convinced being who I was, was wrong. 15 years of being told she was normal, what I wanted wasn't. 15 years of isolation. 15 years brainwashing. 15 years of ever building self doubt.

Then she cheated on me.

Somehow I haven't been in grippy socks yet. Pretty fucking close though with the outpatient stuff I do. Been on one date with someone else.

Edit: A greentext post of all places to get this wonderful support. 🥲

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  • [–] 38 points 1 year ago* (8 children)

    I was in it for 5 years. I wouldn't have made it another decade. Glad you're on the other side. I hope you can find your emotions, the ones that you have somewhere inside that really care for you in a way you haven't felt all this time.

    Also therapy if you can afford it and find one that clicks with you. It's frustratingly helpful in that it doesn't feel like you're doing much but the reinforcement and structure is everything.

    And definitely more dates!

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    I'm doing some particularly frequent therapy at the moment. Medication management, occupational stuff.

    So far I've only met one person on the apps. So I'm working on finding stuff to go to to meet more people. It's a small city, so kind of limited. Can't move because of a kid. That makes it way harder to date too.

    But one thing I'm trying to remind myself - I'll be in my 40s when my son is 18. I figure I can probably really safely leave him at home way before that. So maybe in 5 years or so. I had a teacher in his 50's marry another teacher in her late 20s (and they are still together 15 years later) so I'd say there's still time.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    I don't get why relationships are such a hsrd requirement for people.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    You can be blind to the problems you're facing for a long time. For me it was a combination of her perpetuating abusive behaviors from her youth and me not understanding boundaries and my own avoidance. Outside of that it was right around 2020 so i had a lot of distractions and instability. It took me a long time to realize that the relationship had these problems.

    My point is that taking so long to end it had to do with anything except a relationship being a requirement. I do want to be in a relationship but for intimacy, solidarity, vulnerability, company etc... The status doesn't play into it at all.

    If those don't make sense to you then that's just as normal. If you're confused by them then look into aromanticism.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (3 children)

    Nah, I have been AeroAce for a long time, I realized that I can't really depend on other people, and that outside opinions don't really matter.

    I have notes specifically for what I think I did wrong, and will ask others as needed. Otherwise, time and energy are the only real limits.

    EDIT: Specifically, I'm not AeroAce, I just see it as selfish desire that I'm not entitled to.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    No one is entitled to another human being. Relationships are about mutual interest.

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  • [+] 62 points 1 year ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 child)
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  • [–] 47 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Meanwhile, my wife enables my executive dysfunction, saying things like "oh, just do it tomorrow." I have to explain to her, if I don't do it now, it won't get done for a month. Saying it out loud like that seems to give me the motivation to do it now.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Hope this works for you for a long time.
    Tho it's good that your wife understands the mechanics behind it.

    (Or maybe she already does and you maybe sometimes need the 'tomorrow' & she is looking out for you/managing your dysfunction better than you might think?)

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    Not wanting to be a lazy shit that lets her do all the housework is 99% of my motivation. But when I get the motivation to do the dishes it has to be now or it'll be never.

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  • [–] 39 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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    Don't look for the easy way out of your own maturity. Nobody can tell you who you are better than you. Look for someone who wants to build you up, not control you.

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  • [–] 36 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Having a partner in life makes a huge difference to motivation. I dont really agree with this idea of them leveraging things to force you to act that sounds like a living hell. These things should come naturally as you desire being the best version of yourself for your partner.

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  • [–] 59 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Not swearing is a big fuckin ask.

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago* (13 children)

    What does "sit like a man" mean ?

    Don't cross your legs ? 😅

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    There are different styles of crossing your legs. If you put one knee over the other, that style is often seen as feminine. Compare this with putting one ankle over the other knee (so the top leg is roughly flat) and that is seen as the masculine way.

    I do both. Which one depends on the situation.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Lmfao what

    One knee over the other is feminine? That's fucking wild because I do it, my brother does it, my dad does it and my mom doesn't.

    Guess I better start wearing a kilt and "sitting like a real man" lmfao

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago* (4 children)

    It's totally a thing, at least in public perception. For example, in Fortnite, there's an emote called "Have a seat." Here's two of my skins doing it: https://i.ibb.co/Fb9BRS9J/IMG-20251109-155653-COLLAGE.jpg

    Notice anything? Spike and Chun-Li do totally different animations because they have different gender presentations.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    What the flip

    Oh well just another thing that masculinity is wrong about.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    It's just about bone structure at the hips, it's more comfortable for us to sit legs apart.

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  • [–] 71 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Fake: anon has girlfriend

    Gay: motivated by sticks

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago

    That's just a sub.

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  • [–] 81 points 1 year ago

    Children need a parent, and some adults never pass that stage.

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  • [–] 34 points 1 year ago

    As long as they're consenting adults I guess

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago

    Fuck, I love being single and living by myself.

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  • [–] 25 points 1 year ago

    Yeah, no. That is not what I signed up for.

    We do lift each other up, it's not a one way thing. Can advise, and do, and he does with me too. So sure, I am willing to make suggestions and he always wants me to do stuff like style his wardrobe, do all the interior design, etc., yeah I'm down, my eye is better. He plans all the trips, his mom was a travel agent.

    But would not dream of using sex as a lever, because I want sex for sex.

    And I sure as fuck don't want another kid, I want a partner.

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  • [–] 54 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    That's not a girlfriend it's a second mother.

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    Pretty common phenomenon. And it works for some people, there are men who need hand holding and women who want to nurture (or vice versa). I think it would be healthier for OOP to recognize it for what it is though, and also that it's not a universal experience. For example I'd be miserable as either party in that relationship.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Anon learns the joys of being a pet

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago

    I agree that if your partner really wants to build you up, that it can help getting honest feedback from your significant other; i have changed a lot of things to make living together work better. But the way anon describes it sounds insufferable and more like he likes being dominated; also, it can put you under constant stress if the demands are unreasonable or don't respect your needs.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago

    Something similar kinda happened to me. I was socially inactive. She was very social and regularly meeting up with friends and brought me along with her. I get on with her friends very well actually. She also encouraged me to arrange time so she can meet my friends, too. She really turned my life around. Then she was forced to leave the country because she couldn't get a visa to stay, as the visa rules were tightened - despite her having a job and a master's degree.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago

    I don't need someone telling me not to be a slob to get things done, but having someone around all the time makes me more aware of my better behaviours and function better.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Are those divorce bells I'm hearing?

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Why would they divorce? It sounds like OOP is doing everything his girl wants.

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  • [–] 38 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    god yea i love manipulation and emotional abuse

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    That's half of codependence?

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    it's actually a lot easier to find a partner who guides you on the right path of life through love and support instead of just being abusive

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    I don't want my girlfriend to tell me how to do anything, I'm perfectly capable of managing by myself. But her input is appreciated.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    "i want to improve more for others than for myself" isn't fantastic, but it's pointing in the right direction

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  • More in the right direction than the wrong but still not the right direction entirely. It needs to come from within to be strong and lasting.

    Plus that isn't what's happening here, he's being a child who is also being emotionally and sexually manipulated.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    It can be unimaginably, uncomprehendingly better than just the 'I don't care about myself' state tho, if that is the best they can manage or perhaps even as a step on the gradual path of self-worth/healing - that is amazing!

    Don't dismiss 'getting slightly better' as a failure bcs it's not immediately resulting in the prefect best-case end scenario/state.

    We are all on a journey.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

    Weird. I had the opposite experience.

    Used to have gfs. They constantly nagged me to don't work out, to not get a better job, to drink, to smoke, and party. oh and don't have friends they don't like and don't do anything that doesn't involve them. i was always trying to get us to get better jobs, take classes, try new things, try new places, etc. They would have NONE of it. Having goals and wanting to do stuff in life made me some sort of huge asshole to them.

    I've been single 6 years and my salary has gone up 250%. in the decade I was dating women... it went up like 10%. and i am fitter, stronger, have lots of cool hobbies and i volunteer a lot. I also have pets and own a home. Only thing I don't have in life that I want is a wife/child.

    And when I try to date... i just meet women who think all that shit is gross. I already went on three dates this month and got told by each woman that I was 'too put together and active and serious about life'. they just want someone to get drunk with on the weekends. I don't. I can't seem to find any women to date who actually want to be an active participant in their own life.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I know you aren’t asking for advice but many people search for partners in places that only have 1 type of person. For example you don’t look for a wife at the club or you don’t look for a party animal at church.

    Sounds like you are looking for a certain type of person in exactly the opposite place you should be looking.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago*

    i am not looking for any type of person or in any particular place.

    i just tend to attract women who are losers. even rich losers. i've dated women who had way more money than me who constantly compared about how broke they were and how hard/difficult their life was how I should make more money so they can sit at home no their ass and do nothing. these were doctors/lawyers even.

    it's a very common mentality among USA women, esp single ones.

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  • Also note that i've observed that there's whole swaths of areas which seem to have the same/similar personality type. Like, i grew up in some backwards country village, and all the people there seemed to have a very specific type of mentality that i didn't share (which is why i hated it there). Note: i was an immigrant child. After moving to the big city, i met much more like-minded people, and everything got better.

    My lesson is: In some areas, even large parts of land, people are very similar and if you don't get along with them, it's probably best if you move somewhere completely else instead of trying to stay and make friends with them.

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    [–] 14 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    The guy just discovered female led relationship. If he likes it, it is like a heaven.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Meh. It's more finding the person that compliments you. Your SO should compliment you so your weaknesses are less pronounced and likewise you should do that with your SO.

    A rising tide lifts all boats.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    I already get all that shit at work, minus the "go to gym", I don't need it back at home, thanks

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Hey, if two (or more) people are making each other happy and doing well, right on. Yea that "traditional " style of relationship isnt for me. Especially the idea of withholding conversation or sex as punishment. Well, if it was kink minded then maybe, but I digress.

    Anywhoots, being in a happy stable relationship certainly helped me get some of my act together. Hopefully i wont fully come apart the seams right now.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Especially the idea of withholding conversation or sex as punishment.

    What if the withholding is driven purely by emotion rather than being premeditated?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    Like, someone is angry, so they dont talk for awhile? They are sad, so maybe no fuckey tonight? Etc. Thats fine. I dont mean to say they should always be talking or fucking.

    Withholding to punish, or to steer the partner a certain way is what seems problamatic.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    ADHD folk - just get an SO that can manage your bs brainhole shenanigans, ez win(-win?).

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    I sent this to my GF because it aligns with our relationship and works great. She reminded me to call the dentist to get my root canal done and I know she'll remind me again when I invariably forget because I hate dentist but love dicking her down.

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