What an awful woman
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Is 'firebrand' a new euphemism for 'intolerable arsehole'?
Aww, she got treated by the rules...
I'll bet $500 that she used the phrase "don't you know who I am?!"
agents working without pay during shutdown
I also read air traffic employees calling in sick by the dozens (okay the have some other beef too) but how does that work in general ? Will government employees get payed for the hours worked during the shutdown whenever it ends ?
Yes, but if it goes on too much longer they will all "call in sick" because without pay what's the fucking point? So some cunt in a suit can get to their next business deal or kids can get to Disney?
I know, I know, some travelers are trying to get to a sick family member but those are not as common.
Yes, all federal employees will get back pay, regardless of whether they were working or not. That was a law passed during Trump 1, iirc.
Not that it makes it easy to go a month without a paycheck, but you do get your money after the fact.
Just remember laws evidently don't hold any real weight anymore so nothing is settled until it's settled. Here's one of many articles about intentions to block back pay: https://apnews.com/article/trump-federal-workers-back-bay-shutdown-785eb776d2312d1f68f7e91961d0a93a
Johnson, a lawyer, said he hadn’t fully read the memo but “there are some legal analysts who are saying” that it may not be necessary or appropriate to repay the federal workers.
Johnson is such a fucking worm. Any time he is asked about literally anything, this is what he says. Some bullshit about how he hasn't read it yet. Why does it still fucking work? It's your fucking job to read it and know what's in it you piece of shit.
So they're working without any guarantee that they'll get paid for their time? Fuck that noise, that's just slavery.
The people working are guaranteed pay by labor law. No one is debating not paying the people actually working.
Any talk of not paying people is about those government employees who are currently furloughed.
Trump has a history of not paying people who "are guaranteed pay by labor law."
Sure, but if I was a betting man, I'd say there's a good 95% chance they get paid. It's bad politics to do otherwise.
I'm not saying they'll do it because the law says so. Just that there's a lot of reasons not doing it only hurts them with no real benefits.
For everybody's sake, I hope you're right.
I'd think sending tens of billions of dollars to foreign governments - plus spending hundreds of millions on aesthetic remodeling of the white house - while simultaneously threatening and endangering the food security and medical coverage of the entire country would be considered bad politics, too. At this point I honestly wouldn't even be surprised if they try spinning furloughed workers as attempting an insurrection or something and that the workers actually owe money to the government for their machinations.
It's bad politics to deny people on assistance programs food. The cruelty is the point.
Back-paying furloughed federal employees after a shutdown predates Trump, FYI. That’s been the policy for a long time. It was made a law during Trump’s first term.
Of course, now they are threatening to not back pay them or, at least, omitting language about back pay from letters to furloughed employees.
Federal employees will get back pay if that provision is in a bill that Congress will eventually pass. It's not a guarantee, as you stated.
It was a mandated provision by law passed in 2019: https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/senate-bill/24
Not that it makes it easy to go a month without a paycheck
isn't it common practice/advice in the USA to have a buffer ? I know not everyone has the opportunity to do so, but I taught my kids to aim for a buffer of at least 2x netto paycheck to cover emergencies/unforeseen. Or if the own a house, car etc aim for 8x. They still do that and it helped them to stay out of debt (other than for buying the house).
It's common advice but not necessarily common practice. A huge number of people live paycheck to paycheck, including those with higher incomes.
While having a buffer of some sort is good practice and certainly a recommended one, pricing and inflation have gone through the roof lately. I don't know how that may affect one's financial planning/preparation, esp in a case like this where there is not necessarily an end in sight.
I would be interested to see how many folks here have something like that and how long it's able to sustain them. Will it be recovered in the aftermath? Trump does have an allergy to debt-paying...
They should've maced her.
Firebrand is doing a lot of heavy lifting to disguise what is vile behavior.
I wonder if Nancy should be a term that describes a Karen, but squared.
Nancy Mace likes to copy Trump's behavior, so this is just normal procedure for her.
Eh I've had the exact opposite happen to me. Had a TSA agent berate me for asking if laptops stay inside the backpack while they were working with pay. It was bad enough that some lady behind me told the person to shut the fuck up.
Anyway, this is completely tangential of course. These people haven't been paid in over a month and have to deal with fucks like her. They don't deserve that shit.
Well, maybe the dipshit of a TSA agent I interacted with that one time deserves to deal with Nancy. But even still, that person should at least be paid.


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